Thoughts about the F2P bracket

Hardc0re said:
And 900 hp is only temporary since we can obtain fishing hat, AGM, and all BoAs that aren't the cape and the headgear. It takes loads of time, but I'll get them eventually.

HP/gear will be on point with most twinks, only the enchants will be worse. And I make that up with my skill.



As I already said in another thread, of course there are limitations. Don't spect do be a main FC, you have a reduced ammount of classes/specs to choose, but it's viable. Way more viable than 20s vs 24s.



exactly :)



and the satchel cloak is better than the BoA 1 for hunters and rogues
 
allahkazam said:
any free to play horde are going to get farmed. i'll get my guild to go along with it too if i absolutely have to. you don't want 24s in your bracket and yet think 19 f2p is ok. you can't have it both ways. you will get farmed.



I wonder wich came first? Since I don't personally play in the 20's bracket, if you really want to complain about that I suggest that you start your own thread.



Anyway this current system is bound to collapse becouse I doubt Blizzard wants to make new players like the one wich I posted in the starter post to fight people that have 3-4x more HP than them. Gives a bad impression of the game you know.
 
allahkazam said:
you still miss major DPS enchants to weapons, gloves, bracers, the run speed enchant, cloak enchant. you really do gimp your team regardless of whatever anecdotal evidence is presented here to the contrary.



As I said I really miss the minor speed enchant but I dont need better damage when I get kills in 3 GCDs(If I would have access to better enchants I would focus on improving my survivability(HP and stamina enchants everywhere where its possible) because my damage is already godlike).
 
random1 said:
As I said I really miss the minor speed enchant but I dont need better damage when I get kills in 3 GCDs(If I would have access to better enchants I would focus on improving my survivability because my damage is already godlike).



yeah i really doubt your damage is "godlike" with no enchants. if anything it speaks to the high amount of burst at lower levels. you are complete dead weight when you get in games with cross queueing 5 mans though. love getting 4 or 5 from my guild against 4 or 5 from WT only to see a ton of 800 hp nobodies in the game doing nothing but ruining it.
 
Hardc0re said:
Only class that could kill me and lettimg me without chance to react was Hunters. I was not getting 1-shotted by rogues



open with ambush for 400, white swing for 260, evis for 3 point evis for 300 u dead sorry bud of course id prefer skill>gear but why have that when i can play with people who are both SKILLED and BIS.

just pay for an account and get geared not that hard =p
 
allahkazam said:
yeah i really doubt your damage is "godlike" with no enchants. if anything it speaks to the high amount of burst at lower levels. you are complete dead weight when you get in games with cross queueing 5 mans though. love getting 4 or 5 from my guild against 4 or 5 from WT only to see a ton of 800 hp nobodies in the game doing nothing but ruining it.



As I said pwning paid twinks on F2P character is incredible fun.I bet that someone on a F2P char already wiped the floor with you a few times in the 19 bracket thats why you are so angry :D



Gear alone is not everything,we farmed full epic geared players in greens back in BC just for fun(the season was to long and we were bored).The game is old,you should know this already
 
I can say first hand that alliance does seem to enjoy Graveyard camping. In the 3 bg's I did yesterday on my feral druid (Wannaberogue) I was pretty much just running to get the flag, running back, and than caping 3 times in a row un-apposed while my team just farmed GY. I asked them to stop but they of course would not listen, sorry for anyone in those bg's last night ;(
 
Sàxxon said:
open with ambush for 400, white swing for 260, evis for 3 point evis for 300 u dead sorry bud of course id prefer skill>gear but why have that when i can play with people who are both SKILLED and BIS.

just pay for an account and get geared not that hard =p



I know it's not that hard, but I don't wanna pay, I'm done with paying this game after 4~5 years playing.

And you don't do that much damage, and it's def not 1-shot lol to do 950, you are using 2 globals (actually 3 because I don't know how you got your 3 point evis after an ambush and a eviscerate, unless you have Initiative, wich means you don't have improved Ambush, meaning less damage from an opener, and 50% chance only to get this 3-point evis).

immagine when I have 1500 HP next month after grinding honor. Not to mention I have Warstomp/roots when you sprint, Travel Form to kite, Rejuv, Swiftment... You are not farming me after I get my BiS, sorry.
 
random1 said:
As I said pwning paid twinks on F2P character is incredible fun.I bet that someone on a F2P char already wiped the floor with you a few times in the 19 bracket thats why you are so angry :D



Yeah killing a mage whose primary function is to CC large groups of uglies so that the FC can run the flag is an accomplishment. I doubt it though. I get up to 2k hp buffed and am never too far from a healer.
 
Hardc0re said:
I know it's not that hard, but I don't wanna pay, I'm done with paying this game after 4~5 years playing.

And you don't do that much damage, and it's def not 1-shot lol to do 950, you are using 2 globals (actually 3 because I don't know how you got your 3 point evis after an ambush and a eviscerate, unless you ahve initiative, wich means you don't have improved Ambush, meaning less damage from an opener).

immagine when I have 1500 HP next month after grinding honor. Not to mention I have Warstomp/roots when you sprint, Travel Form to kite, Rejuv, Swiftment... You are not farming me after I get my BiS, sorry.



im so glad you are horde ill see you today :), and my mistake on saying 3 point evis but ambush into and evis is 2 GCD, I auto swing for 300 WHITE crits on most leather wearers so i guess we will just have to see.
 
In response to the title of this thread: "thoughts about the F2P bracket." Initially I thought it was a great idea. An entirely new bracket using f2p accounts. Creating twinks using the least amount of items, gear, and enchants available to us. I thought wow, this will really show of players potential/skill .... then the 24s started popping in. In my opinion this bracket is slowly changing. Eventually we're going to see more 24's over time thus creating a solid p2p bracket. If and when that time comes, i'd rather roll 29s for obvious reasons. Long live f2p 20s....while it lasts :)
 
leotseddap said:
I'm not worried. Blizzard allready said they made a mistake to put starter 20s into locked xp. If I were a 24 i would worry a little.



citation ?
 
Tbh the 24s don't bother me that much if they actually play to win. If shit hits the fan I am gonna go healer or hunter and still be a valuable player and have fun playing a competetive game.



The faggot kids that hold the flag under the GY to farm is the only thing thats ruining my gaming experience, be it f2p twinked hunters or p2p 24s.
 
Okay quit with constant AB plugging. You know what, Horde fails even more hardcore in AB then in the Gulch. I have 2, and I mean 2 victories in AB and I'm very sad to say one of those came from playing with the moron boxer (hey when you lose 80% of your games you take what honor you can get). AB as far as I can see Horde side is waaaay more fail than WSG.
 
allahkazam said:
you still miss major DPS enchants to weapons, gloves, bracers, the run speed enchant, cloak enchant. you really do gimp your team regardless of whatever anecdotal evidence is presented here to the contrary.



Sàxxon said:
hardcore i could one shot you on my 19 rogue thats why people dont want f2ps in our bracket. you think real 19 twinks want games where the outcome is decided by who has the most p2p players? and yes the exact same problem is happening in the 20-24 bracket except that 24s dont gimp a team they carry it.

roll a 10-14 bracket f2p that would be more balanced due to boas stats scaling better at low levels and the 10-14 bracket would kill for pops.



I made a post about it that you may want to take a look.

I'm looking foward for contructive criticisms of course :)



http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/free-play/24139-f2p-19s-arent-viable-math-statistics-proof.html
 

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