The Road Ahead...

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...Needs More Leaders Not More Followers

I have been wrestling with how to couch this topic and know it has been breached before. It needs to be revisited on a regular basis but in a diplomatic fashion. New players join the bracket every day and many miss the various past discussions.

To many when you first start playing this game your opponent is an enemy to be killed with all prejudice to the point they quit the game. Some are so hostile that they even trash their own team, troll their respective trade chats and even their own guild. These players typically take the shortest route to gaining an advantage and crutch it till something else looks more advantageous. If you look far enough down that continued path all you see is wreckage and missed opportunities. Its a very short sighted perspective. Without opponents you do not have a "game". Fools gy camp the last late night opposing team as they won't re-queue and you have no more games pop. Apparently the 19s are full of fools and have themselves to blame for the tail spin their bracket is in.

As some players mature in the game they come to realize you need an opponent and that they are just a player of a game, like they are. While you might be able to learn skills from a hated opponent very slowly, a friend or friendly player can shortcut the learning process dramatically. When a community is hostile things degenerate into more and more insults and overused and abused advantages that prevent higher level competition and shrinks the community. When a community is friendly lines of communication can develop that besides helping to educate new players (vital to anything that grows) and old players alike as to skills, strategy, gear, teamwork, and more it provides a catalyst for intense competition which draws ever increasing numbers of players.

This F2P vs. P2P in the 20-24 bracket is an example of a short sighted argument. It serves no purpose but to divide. P2P players and F2P players reporting each other AFK in BG's only brings more of the same. F2P hacking will only lead to the end the program so the few will ruin it for the many. If we all just follow what others are doing we can join the 15-19 bracket in watching our chosen bracket die. That is what followers do, follow as it is the easiest thing to do. They blame others for why they do what they do, just like GY Campers and Honor Farmers do. Leaders show others the way by doing it regardless of what is done to them. If a player spits on a leader the leader does not follow suit...they take it in stride and do not return like for like and in so doing demonstrate both the right thing to do and what leadership is. Leadership has a lot of books written about it but I don't know why. It is really simple stuff.

We need more leaders with the integrity to hold the line, even when they don't feel like it. GY camping, Honor farming, spitfests, reporting each other AFK, trash talking a fellow player/players all given enough rope lead to bad results. No one is above reproach. I have been a fool more than once. But we must turn a new leaf and fight the urge to be short sighted if we want to play a fun game long term. In so doing you become a leader...and the road ahead becomes longer and more fun to travel.
 
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Good post especially for those of us who have really fell in love for the bracket and could give 2 shits what new spells we are gonna have at 90 but really care what new ones our 24s are gonna have.

Things I'd like seen removed from our bracket (Hunters (even my beloved metro) and common phrases like garbage and trash when referring to someones game play. At least be creative in your unsolicited, constructive criticism of someones playing style.
 
A very interesting read, But this post alone won't be able to "persuade" much. I know exactly what you mean though, i see it all the time. People saying let's farm because they farmed us before or something along those lines. It seems a lot of people have that eye for en eye mentality. I usually tell people that you shouldn't do something wrong just because it's been done to you but most people won't listen.

It sucks to see this type of behavior and i don't think we can do much to stop it, hopefully people realize themselves what they are doing but i doubt it.
 
That's the way I feel about most of the 19's.
It would be nice if Blizzard would make communication between Trial Accounts easier. A Trial Guild would be nice.

It has to be VERY frustrating as a new person in this game doing a 20-24 BG with 500 hp and really having NO ONE to ask for assistance/advice. They get 1 shot, and not to mention also get there own team yelling at them.

Its pretty much why I refuse to pay, Blizzard's a bunch of idiots. Heck, Warhammer had a default guild setup where you auto-joined at a certain level. I would hope that the Blizzard dev's could think of something similar.
 
Good post especially for those of us who have really fell in love for the bracket and could give 2 shits what new spells we are gonna have at 90 but really care what new ones our 24s are gonna have.

Things I'd like seen removed from our bracket (Hunters (even my beloved metro) and common phrases like garbage and trash when referring to someones game play. At least be creative in your unsolicited, constructive criticism of someones playing style.

lol wait wat...
who is this trashcanne garbo tinke
instead of trying to remove the lingo of the twink bracket u should improve ur gameplay so less ppl call u trash <3
this isnt kindergarten where name calling isnt allowed
 
lol wait wat...
who is this trashcanne garbo tinke
instead of trying to remove the lingo of the twink bracket u should improve ur gameplay so less ppl call u trash <3
this isnt kindergarten where name calling isnt allowed

the reason i troll in a nutshell, how can you reason with that mentality?
 
Name calling isn't condoned at your job and in any civil society, usually. That has nothing to do with kindergarten. :/ In fact one might consider it a sign of maturity that when two surgeons disagree they don't start calling each other 'trash' and 'poopy-head'.


In this game: even if someone says to me 'you're good' and calls the person next to me trash, I will still dislike that. I agree with going ahead and leading* by example. Doesn't mean I will change everyone, but a few people might think about what they do. :) That's enough.


*Although I dislike the term leading in this context. Someone can act according to their principles even when introverted and / or not assuming any leadership position.
 
lol wait wat...
who is this trashcanne garbo tinke
instead of trying to remove the lingo of the twink bracket u should improve ur gameplay so less ppl call u trash <3
this isnt kindergarten where name calling isnt allowed

I'm good at a video game and can trash talk like a little kid. My epeen will get me far in life.
 
*Although I dislike the term leading in this context. Someone can act according to their principles even when introverted and / or not assuming any leadership position.

Your sentiment is inline with mine when I pointed out how much is written about leadership yet it really is quite simple. Leadership is often thought to mean a position elevated over others to boss around. In fact it means to serve others and is mostly done, not spoken. In my context leadership is not a position but a path.
 
Please, Please critster use some damn commas so what you type is understandable. Now to my real complaint: despite the overall positive message, this was still mostly hypocritical fluff. Also, i still hate you <3. And finally, i now have a horde toon and every time i pug into one of your premades i'll sabatoge the hell out of it so the allies dont have to fight a depressingly hopelessly faceroll game. (note: pugging on horde IS much worse than pugging om ally, point conceeded)
 
Please, Please critster use some damn commas so what you type is understandable. Now to my real complaint: despite the overall positive message, this was still mostly hypocritical fluff. Also, i still hate you <3. And finally, i now have a horde toon and every time i pug into one of your premades i'll sabatoge the hell out of it so the allies dont have to fight a depressingly hopelessly faceroll game. (note: pugging on horde IS much worse than pugging om ally, point conceeded)

You have interwebs!
 
Please, Please critster use some damn commas so what you type is understandable. Now to my real complaint: despite the overall positive message, this was still mostly hypocritical fluff. Also, i still hate you <3. And finally, i now have a horde toon and every time i pug into one of your premades i'll sabatoge the hell out of it so the allies dont have to fight a depressingly hopelessly faceroll game. (note: pugging on horde IS much worse than pugging om ally, point conceeded)

Wait, wait, wait. So, if I am not understandable why reply to what you do not understand? :p

Seriously, I love you. Sabotage* aside, you at least concede the point that Allies PUG's are much better than Horde. As for punctuation, yes I am bad. Get over it, I try. We all have our weaknesses. Your spelling is not the best my friend.
 
you at least concede the point that Allies PUG's are much better than Horde.

I guess it depends on what you mean by better. Ally pugs (from my experience) tends to be made up of whiny hunters who are there to farm and insist hunters aren't overpowered. Horde tends to be made up of actual new players that seem to have a much better attitude, although they lose much more.

Overall I prefer pugging on horde.
 
Oh noes, you've found my fatal flaw, french words!

Apparently we have found a bit more...:p

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