??The new BIS hunter build??

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2nd argas and goblin bracers
 
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yeah was gonna say thrall's gift, but idk if you can really get it anymore. though, it's something to look into. I'm so surprised that full defias is max AP, but by how much is it?
 
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2nd argas and goblin bracers
Yeah gob bracers would be "bis" but that is imposible to do and the agi you gain from this set is just enough to be better than gloom/thralls set
 
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It is inferior to gloomshroud build with Thrall's Gift. Not bis.
Not that the difference is ever going to be noticed until you resist a sheep. But I'll take more agi and arcane resist over the crit
 
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I've gotten poly'd about twice in the past month so I'll gladly take the set that does more damage.
 
The thing I have with Gnomish X-Ray Scope is that I feel like it procs as much as Mongoose for me (once every 10 bgs). Thats why I run Flintlockes and it works out well.
 
The thing I have with Gnomish X-Ray Scope is that I feel like it procs as much as Mongoose for me (once every 10 bgs). Thats why I run Flintlockes and it works out well.
Yeah I need to level a hunter for flintlocks
 
gloom + thrall's gift vs defias set is 1 agi 5 stam 5 arcane resist vs 11 crit 2 haste, but unless you make a new toon for thrall's this is BiS imo
 
The thing I have with Gnomish X-Ray Scope is that I feel like it procs as much as Mongoose for me (once every 10 bgs). Thats why I run Flintlockes and it works out well.

I have a proc in like 90% of my duels (which usually don't last too long), the proc rate isn't that bad. I've been trying to read from different places about their procrates and stuff, think I read that flintlockes and gnomish x-rays procrates are pretty much the same, and both have same ICD. One thing's for certain, wherever you try to find out some facts about which one is better, 9 out of 10 posts will be "omg it flings out a chicken, so obviously its bis"

edit: seems to be 2,4% procchance for gnomish and ~10% for flintlocke
tldr: gnomish x-ray pops more often than you imply.
 
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Thanks for the clarification on this matter clarification. flintlocke bis cause critter. every argument is invalid :D
 
So after reading a little about the scope discussion I thought I go autoshoot on a target dummy to see how often they proc. People said some time ago in some thread that flints > x-ray due to proc rate so I started testing because I really want to know.

These are my results, I did 2 segments for both. One for the duration of 5 minutes and one for the duration of 15 minutes on a level 20 veteran hunter:

5 min. results for flints:
  • 76 autoshots
  • 5 procs
  • 28.1k dmg

5 min. results for x-ray:
  • 84 autoshots
  • 2 procs
  • 26.4k dmg

15 min. results for flints:
  • 257 autoshots
  • 13 procs
  • 76.1k dmg

15 min. results for x-ray:
  • 263 autoshots
  • 9 procs
  • 77.1k damage

Seeing my results here and not used arcane shot, explosive shot and steady shot I believe that in short fights you benefit more from flints cause it procs more often and faster. With longer fights it seems you benefit more from x-ray and having more attack power. In other words I feel that there isn't alot difference actually but it feels like x-ray gives more dps when you are constantly shooting. I believe it comes down to the situation though but I'll leave that up to you to decide.
 
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So after reading a little about the scope discussion I thought I go autoshoot on a target dummy to see how often they proc. People said some time ago in some thread that flints > x-ray due to proc rate so I started testing because I really want to know.

These are my results, I did 2 segments for both. One for the duration of 5 minutes and one for the duration of 15 minutes on a level 20 veteran hunter:

5 min. results for flints:
  • 76 autoshots
  • 5 procs
  • 28.1k dmg
5 min. results for x-ray:
  • 84 autoshots
  • 2 procs
  • 26.4k dmg
15 min. results for flints:
  • 257 autoshots
  • 13 procs
  • 76.1k dmg
15 min. results for x-ray:
  • 263 autoshots
  • 9 procs
  • 77.1k damage
Seeing my results here and not used arcane shot, explosive shot and steady shot I believe that in short fights you benefit more from flints cause it procs more often and faster. With longer fights it seems you benefit more from x-ray and having more attack power. In other words I feel that there isn't alot difference actually but it feels like x-ray gives more dps when you are constantly shooting. I believe it comes down to the situation though but I'll leave that up to you to decide.

Can someone enlight me why he got more auto shots sometimes for the same amount of time spend on the target dummy ? Multi strike or what ?
 
Can someone enlight me why he got more auto shots sometimes for the same amount of time spend on the target dummy ? Multi strike or what ?
This is wat I was wondering about myself, and yes I suppose it is cause of multystrike. I couldn't think of anything else. I pressed the stopwatch at the same time I started to attack and stopped at exact 5 and 15 minutes. But still it is a little weird that the x-ray tests have more autoshots fired then with flints and it feels like the newer x-ray has a chance maby to multystrike too. I could do the tests again but that was not the point for me to it but just to show and lighten up about the amount of procs.
 
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So after reading a little about the scope discussion I thought I go autoshoot on a target dummy to see how often they proc. People said some time ago in some thread that flints > x-ray due to proc rate so I started testing because I really want to know.

These are my results, I did 2 segments for both. One for the duration of 5 minutes and one for the duration of 15 minutes on a level 20 veteran hunter:

5 min. results for flints:
  • 76 autoshots
  • 5 procs
  • 28.1k dmg
5 min. results for x-ray:
  • 84 autoshots
  • 2 procs
  • 26.4k dmg
15 min. results for flints:
  • 257 autoshots
  • 13 procs
  • 76.1k dmg
15 min. results for x-ray:
  • 263 autoshots
  • 9 procs
  • 77.1k damage
Seeing my results here and not used arcane shot, explosive shot and steady shot I believe that in short fights you benefit more from flints cause it procs more often and faster. With longer fights it seems you benefit more from x-ray and having more attack power. In other words I feel that there isn't alot difference actually but it feels like x-ray gives more dps when you are constantly shooting. I believe it comes down to the situation though but I'll leave that up to you to decide.
For Flintlock's, are we assuming a European, or African Woodchuck? You know, because the difference in unladen airspeed velocity. Herp derp.
 
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