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We all know the real reason why all these brave internet heroes don't want this law to pass through, they want to hide their CP and download w/o paying.
Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)
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We all know the real reason why all these brave internet heroes don't want this law to pass through, they want to hide their CP and download w/o paying.
Damage123
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Almost everyone on this earth who uses the internet also watches or downloads something that is copyrighted every day. The bill they are trying to pass gives them the right to further ristrict material on the internet and also impose much higher fines/jail terms. Someone could listen to a song online and go to jail for over 2 years and pay them hundreds of thousands of dollars if this bill passed.
The funny thing is, the same peaple who are also trying to pass this bill were the ones who originally released the first software online that allows peaple to find free pirated material. They released software to encourage peaple to do this, and now they are trying to pass a bill giving them the power to fine and jail the same peaple who downloaded thier software in the first place, they baited peaple and are trying to profit off of them.
Peaple arent just upset about this bill for simple reasons, like the fact that they would have to pay for stuff more, but because its trying to further degrade our rights, and is just another small step that could prove to be the end of rights all together.
The funny thing is, the same peaple who are also trying to pass this bill were the ones who originally released the first software online that allows peaple to find free pirated material. They released software to encourage peaple to do this, and now they are trying to pass a bill giving them the power to fine and jail the same peaple who downloaded thier software in the first place, they baited peaple and are trying to profit off of them.
Peaple arent just upset about this bill for simple reasons, like the fact that they would have to pay for stuff more, but because its trying to further degrade our rights, and is just another small step that could prove to be the end of rights all together.
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Damage123
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rofl why the hell is everyone against those that oppose sopa? I bet you change ur tune when every video on youtube containing any sort of copyrighted material costs money to watch, and when peaple start to get inprisoned for downloading the newest song of thier favorite artists for free, and then taxes go up to pay for the increase of prisoners.
Watch the video explaining all this crap and youll understand why it dosnt make any sense, and is only harmful for us as a whole. Its one of many first steps towards eliminating what few rights we as a peaple still have. One day we may have complete internet censorship, just like some other countries do. Go find someone from those countries and ask them about thier rights and listen to what they tell you lol.
Watch the video explaining all this crap and youll understand why it dosnt make any sense, and is only harmful for us as a whole. Its one of many first steps towards eliminating what few rights we as a peaple still have. One day we may have complete internet censorship, just like some other countries do. Go find someone from those countries and ask them about thier rights and listen to what they tell you lol.
CIHC
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Hell, if I made a movie or a song which costed lots of money and sacrifices, aswell as LOTS of time and effort I wouldn't want some cheap-ass teenages to watch it for free.
Damage123
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Trust me lol, if you were a music artist or a movie star, you would have more than enough money even with peaple pirating your work, im sorry but having a choice between putting a few cents into someones wallet ( which is really how much they make per person buying a song from them, or saving myself alot more money, I wouldnt feel guilty at all about listening or watching pirated material. The artists only make a small percentage of what you pay, and most peaple dont even know about some artists until they hear one of thier songs on youtube or something. Its advertising in a sense, and alot of peaple wouldnt be jack squat without it. For this reason alone, alot of artists auctually upload thier own content for free for this very purpose, to gain popularity and benefit from more profit in the long run.
Would you rather sell 1000 songs, or give away a few thousand for free and end up selling a million songs due to peaple listening to your work and sharing it with others?
Dramatized
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First of all, let's just be clear that if a artist himself upload a soundtrack of himself he obv. wants it to be there, so then there's no problem at all - that's not even what this discussion was about.
When I say the word artist I believe the first that flash in-front of your eyes are somthing along with Britney Spears, Coldplay, Skrillex etc. - in other words; the big ones, then think about that of all artists or performers out there, maybe just <5 % (not too sure about these numbers, don't quote me on this, but you get the point) can actually make a living of their music, and even less can make a good living. So don't think that every musician is rich as fawk.
Here's a story: John is a guy who's good at singing and playing guitar, after YEARS of practice he finally got a record-deal, the record-company gets 80 % and John's manager gets 5 %, that leaves John with 15 % of all his earnings. Then ofc. somebody buys his track and puts all of his songs up on Youtube, many other ppl DL it from there and re-uploads it. No-one's gonna buy a single record from John when they can just DL it online for free, and yes I admit it's good advertisement, but if John wanted his songs to reach out for free to everyone he would've just uploaded the songs himself, wouldn't he? Another option for John if he wanted many ppl to listen to his songs would be using Spotify or Vevo on Youtube.
In the long run this is probably the best, but who are we, the consumers of his/her music to decide? Shouldn't that be the artists' choice?
Damage123
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I suppose it really depends on the situation as to whether or not pirating can be harmful or helpful, however this bill isnt just about helping those who are hurt by pirating, its main supporters are those who promoted pirating in the first place which is funny. They are just trying to help the bill get passed for more financial gain, and could care less about anyone who is helped by it, and many suspect that a bill such as this could merely be the beginning of more and more bills being passed until the internet is nothing but a censored market. Who knows....maybe 30 years from now you might have to have a credit card to even open up your internet browser, and everytime you click on a link that has someone elses content in it a few cents or more are deducted from your bank account.
Im not gonna pretend to be an expert on things such as this, but the bill itself smells mighty fishy.
Im not gonna pretend to be an expert on things such as this, but the bill itself smells mighty fishy.
Falkor
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what do you work for the ******* riaa? 30 years ago the movie industry thought VHS would end the world via pirated material......clearly VHS and VCR did not kill the industry. nor did dvds, bluerays, or online content.
same story for the music industry. downloading becomes "popular" and they freak the **** out when music sales are still off the charts
theres always going to be the vast majority of people that pay for their content. even people that pirate often purchase the song/movie after they watch it for free....or an even better example is downloading an old game that you own/owned but cannot use (broken disc for example)...do you really want to go out and buy a whole new copy of the game or do you want to download it and use your CD-KEY/crack it? same goes for movies and cds.
an act like SOPA is trying to fix something that isnt even really broken, and going way overboard at everyones expense, not just the pirates
Basmogaz
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Mehcritkillu...So because ppl are starving..we cant be worried about our freedom? Then we cant be worried about anything coz there will always be that **** up part of the world where things are **** and death seems better than life.
SOPA combined with martial law, will **** op the states so bad...
SOPA will not just affect the states but the rest of world too.
SOPA combined with martial law, will **** op the states so bad...
SOPA will not just affect the states but the rest of world too.
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Mazurati
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lol.. if SOPA is way past someone who just DL's copyrighted material. I can easily use a proxy server and change my mac address if I really wanted to hide, but SOPA (as said numerous times) is more than that.
Since you're not even American how bout you stay out of the conversation?
Since you're not even American how bout you stay out of the conversation?
Basmogaz
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Me? Well because if SOPA gets through, its gunna spread to the rest of the world....
And why the **** should i stay out of an conversation because of that?
Hah....
MERICA
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Cryptekz
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Er... no?
If the artist in question is stupid enough to launch his work onto a medium where it can easily be copied and distributed by others for free, and then expects to make money off doing so, then his intelligence speaks for itself.
Besides, 90% of the money that musicians make comes from live shows and merch sales.
That said, it's all pretty stupid when you think about it, because asking for money for art is like copywriting an idea. That humanity has evolved to the point where we've said that people deserved to be credited as the first to have thought of certain lyrics layered over a chord progression, and reserve the right to sue people who use that same combination is frankly retarded.
Then again, the whole monetary system as it is is fairly retarded as well, but thats a whole other issue.
tl;dr
Owning ideas is a stupid idea. Saying you thought it first and getting a patent stamp doesn't prove in any way that you were the first to think it. Claiming exclusive ownership of that idea is also pretty bogus.
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Mazurati
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Me? Well because if SOPA gets through, its gunna spread to the rest of the world....
And why the **** should i stay out of an conversation because of that?
Hah....
MERICA
no.. the mehcrit kid
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