Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)
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Lithogen
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I got out of the pirating business roughly 10 years ago because I saw something like this (though not as extreme) coming. What has me concerned isn't someone who's downloading a movie from The Pirate Bay, it's what SOPA will do to legitimate internet entrepreneurs and the increasing control big businesses have over the U.S. government. A very important victory was achieved with the DNS blocking re-evaluated with the strong possibility of being removed from the bill.
SOPA goes far beyond busting downloaders. It, along with PIPA (Protect IP) gives the government the means to squash your constitutionally guarenteed protected rights of freedom of speech and expression. Along with forcing your ISP to monitor your activity; violating your privacy. There are so many other things (that are too exahustive to list) that these two bills can do that will change the internet and people's lives around the world.
There comes a time in everyone's life when they have to stop what they're doing, take a look around and wonder where they're headed. It's really sad the people involved in this can't look around and say "Hey, I've got millions and millions and millions, maybe it's enough." and "I need to stop contributing to this problem and get right."
I've never been one to bend a knee to authority, but if downloading is what has caused this problem to mushroom into what it is, it might be time to stop being a cheapskate and drop 15 bucks on a CD or wait till the movie comes out and enjoy it with friends instead of trying to get sh*tty quality leaked screeners with timers and unskinned models on the screen.
SOPA goes far beyond busting downloaders. It, along with PIPA (Protect IP) gives the government the means to squash your constitutionally guarenteed protected rights of freedom of speech and expression. Along with forcing your ISP to monitor your activity; violating your privacy. There are so many other things (that are too exahustive to list) that these two bills can do that will change the internet and people's lives around the world.
There comes a time in everyone's life when they have to stop what they're doing, take a look around and wonder where they're headed. It's really sad the people involved in this can't look around and say "Hey, I've got millions and millions and millions, maybe it's enough." and "I need to stop contributing to this problem and get right."
I've never been one to bend a knee to authority, but if downloading is what has caused this problem to mushroom into what it is, it might be time to stop being a cheapskate and drop 15 bucks on a CD or wait till the movie comes out and enjoy it with friends instead of trying to get sh*tty quality leaked screeners with timers and unskinned models on the screen.
Druiddroid
OG
**** PIPA
Druiddroid
OG
you mean **** Pipa, Pipa is way hotter
Falkor
Twink Info Legend
yea but downloading isnt the problem. its the perceived fear of downloading by mpaa, riaa, and other corporate dickwads that is driving shitty legislation like this. i occasionally download, but i also go out and purchase music, tv, and movies. sometimes ill download a movie to see how it is, then go out and see it in theaters or buy it on dvd if i like it. other times i see a movie at the theaters or on dvd and download it just so i can watch it more easily on the go. in either case, the industries are fine and they're just money grubbing capitalists who want to use the govt for their own ends - not the american peoples.
the worst part is the industry has so much money to throw at campaigns that they influence retarded old bastards on capitol hill into passing legislation they dont even understand. i just wish the legislative branch could be purged and we could start over new with people that care about politics, not money. get rid of the crazy salary and benefits that members of congress get, get rid of needing huge expensive campaigns, get rid of people making a career of politics (aka term limits for congress so we dont get fat lazy incumbents who care more about increasing their wealth and pleasing captains of industry than making this nation great), and just generally get youth in there who arent so technologically backwards, who understand actual global and domestic problems of today and todays social norms
ps ive only had good screeners and leaks in my time
Turdel
Legend
Don't insult the Duchess of Cambridge with such slander, especially when she is so hot in the face.
Lithogen
Legend
I agree with ya 100% Falkor, things need to change, quickly. Here's something else.
The lawsuits that are filed by the MPAA and RIAA only reward those involved a certain portions of the funds gained by the lawsuit. Which means that if you're a millionaire rockstar and you're sue'ing for 10 million dollars in lost record sales due to piracy, you won't even get the full 10 million. Then you're out the money you've spent on lawyers + money from record sale losses
I don't know about you, but if I lost 5 bucks, I wouldn't pay 15 to get 3 of it back.
The lawsuits that are filed by the MPAA and RIAA only reward those involved a certain portions of the funds gained by the lawsuit. Which means that if you're a millionaire rockstar and you're sue'ing for 10 million dollars in lost record sales due to piracy, you won't even get the full 10 million. Then you're out the money you've spent on lawyers + money from record sale losses
I don't know about you, but if I lost 5 bucks, I wouldn't pay 15 to get 3 of it back.
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Mazurati
OG
If certain people would actually read the damn thing, then they would realize that your right.. it goes way beyond downloading pirated media.
Dorigon
Alpha and Omega
This needed a bump.
This website I am linking lists those members of Congress that support SOPA/PIPA: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/283870/20120118/sopa-blackout-list-congressmen-internet-congress.htm
If there are politicians included that represent your district/state, take a few minutes out of your day to google each Congress member's website and fill out a contact form to voice your concern.
This website I am linking lists those members of Congress that support SOPA/PIPA: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/283870/20120118/sopa-blackout-list-congressmen-internet-congress.htm
If there are politicians included that represent your district/state, take a few minutes out of your day to google each Congress member's website and fill out a contact form to voice your concern.
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Nakedplumber
Tink
Soo, were in 2012 arent we?
BloodyFenrir
Legend
I see there's already been a video from Totalbiscuit posted on here, so here's a direct quote from his Facebook page which people may find interesting, if they haven't figured it out already (haven't read the entire thread, sorry if it's already been covered):
"Let's be honest, the people behind SOPA/PIPA are smart, very smart. They know without a doubt the bill will not put a dent in piracy. The kind of people who pirate and run piracy services are far too smart to be brought to heel by mere legislation and have continued to elude the best efforts of the US and it's lackeys. SOPA/PIPA exists for one reason, to protect an aging and crooked business model, dominated by large corporations who are slowly but surely being eroded by people like you and me. These corporations want to stifle the internet because the internet is the biggest threat to their dominance that has ever existed. For decades, through control of radio stations and television channels, corporations have made bank, but now, all the money in the world can't save them from guys in their bedrooms and home-made studios creating content that is more relevant to the current generation. The variety the big media corporations refused to provide because it "wasn't profitable", is now being provided by hundreds of thousands of amateur, semi-pro and professional independent creators and directors and we're all competing for the most important currency of all, time. The time you spend watching our material is time you don't spend watching theirs. It's money directly out of their pocket that they could have been earning before the internet came along and that's the hilarious thing about this whole deal. Piracy is not what's killing their profits, completely legitimate competition from the internet is. They use the cause of "fighting piracy" as a trojan horse to force through bought and paid for legislation to kill independent content creation for good because they can see the end is nigh for their aging and increasingly irrelevant business model. They know they cannot win legitimately, so they do what they've always done, exploit a corrupt political system to bully and extort their way to what they want.
This is what SOPA/PIPA are really about and that is why you should oppose them. You are standing up for what your generation represents, just as previous generations have done the same on a slew of different issues. As much as those in power would like us to believe we are the apathetic, lazy generation. The truth is we are anything but and that scares the **** out of them."
"Let's be honest, the people behind SOPA/PIPA are smart, very smart. They know without a doubt the bill will not put a dent in piracy. The kind of people who pirate and run piracy services are far too smart to be brought to heel by mere legislation and have continued to elude the best efforts of the US and it's lackeys. SOPA/PIPA exists for one reason, to protect an aging and crooked business model, dominated by large corporations who are slowly but surely being eroded by people like you and me. These corporations want to stifle the internet because the internet is the biggest threat to their dominance that has ever existed. For decades, through control of radio stations and television channels, corporations have made bank, but now, all the money in the world can't save them from guys in their bedrooms and home-made studios creating content that is more relevant to the current generation. The variety the big media corporations refused to provide because it "wasn't profitable", is now being provided by hundreds of thousands of amateur, semi-pro and professional independent creators and directors and we're all competing for the most important currency of all, time. The time you spend watching our material is time you don't spend watching theirs. It's money directly out of their pocket that they could have been earning before the internet came along and that's the hilarious thing about this whole deal. Piracy is not what's killing their profits, completely legitimate competition from the internet is. They use the cause of "fighting piracy" as a trojan horse to force through bought and paid for legislation to kill independent content creation for good because they can see the end is nigh for their aging and increasingly irrelevant business model. They know they cannot win legitimately, so they do what they've always done, exploit a corrupt political system to bully and extort their way to what they want.
This is what SOPA/PIPA are really about and that is why you should oppose them. You are standing up for what your generation represents, just as previous generations have done the same on a slew of different issues. As much as those in power would like us to believe we are the apathetic, lazy generation. The truth is we are anything but and that scares the **** out of them."
Bankbeauty
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Fourtwennay
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