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i like 2 call these types of threads "bracket envy". you do not often see 19s going into the 29/39/49 bracket forums posting about how bad that bracket is, because we just have it so good in 19s we dont need to!

end of the day, if you enjoy the bracket and community your in then play that! 19s own because the community is tight knit and competitive, we all love it!

i hope you can also have that sense of enjoyment in your bracket as well, thot!

Kind regards,
saxxon
 
i like 2 call these types of threads "bracket envy". you do not often see 19s going into the 29/39/49 bracket forums posting about how bad that bracket is, because we just have it so good in 19s we dont need to!

end of the day, if you enjoy the bracket and community your in then play that! 19s own because the community is tight knit and competitive, we all love it!

i hope you can also have that sense of enjoyment in your bracket as well, thot!

Kind regards,
saxxon

Exactly, well said saxx.
 
i like 2 call these types of threads "bracket envy". you do not often see 19s going into the 29/39/49 bracket forums posting about how bad that bracket is, because we just have it so good in 19s we dont need to!

end of the day, if you enjoy the bracket and community your in then play that! 19s own because the community is tight knit and competitive, we all love it!

i hope you can also have that sense of enjoyment in your bracket as well, thot!

Kind regards,
saxxon
Great initiative

Kind regards,
Quack
 
i like 2 call these types of threads "bracket envy". you do not often see 19s going into the 29/39/49 bracket forums posting about how bad that bracket is, because we just have it so good in 19s we dont need to!

end of the day, if you enjoy the bracket and community your in then play that! 19s own because the community is tight knit and competitive, we all love it!

i hope you can also have that sense of enjoyment in your bracket as well, thot!

Kind regards,
saxxon
the realest MAN
 
end of the day, if you enjoy the bracket and community your in then play that! 19s own because the community is tight knit and competitive, we all love it!
this is all its really about

yeah I think 19s are cancer to play but yknow if you like it power to you
 
So, basically.

The same complaints that have been a thing for 90% of 19 twinking?

I'd say the toxic community is the worst part, but hey. To each their own.

Still a better post than a "Best of__" thread.
 
i like 2 call these types of threads "bracket envy". you do not often see 19s going into the 29/39/49 bracket forums posting about how bad that bracket is, because we just have it so good in 19s we dont need to!

end of the day, if you enjoy the bracket and community your in then play that! 19s own because the community is tight knit and competitive, we all love it!

i hope you can also have that sense of enjoyment in your bracket as well, thot!

Kind regards,
saxxon
The MVP badge makes sense. :p
 
This guy even crys to me about stealing kbs, not even serious thread.
[doublepost=1532972313,1532972093][/doublepost]19s is the only bracket where you can form good and balanced 10v10s because both teams always have experienced players not like 29s or other brackets where most of people are just pug players.

Also taking into account Wsg game is more serious in 19s because the lack of mounts makes positioning everything.
 
Spamming the 3 or 4 rotational abilities that you have in this bracket - with zero regard for offensive or defensive cooldowns or CC - does not make you a good player. Also, while it may be "fun and interesting", both of which are subjective terms, it is nowhere near as competitive as endgame. Anyone who thinks otherwise must be an idiot.
I mean, if you can't play the bracket don't shit on people that can. I agree end game is competitive, but so are all brackets when surrounded by like minded people.
People that complain about 19's are the same people that cannon't afford a million+ gold to gear them
 
i like 2 call these types of threads "bracket envy". you do not often see 19s going into the 29/39/49 bracket forums posting about how bad that bracket is, because we just have it so good in 19s we dont need to!

end of the day, if you enjoy the bracket and community your in then play that! 19s own because the community is tight knit and competitive, we all love it!

i hope you can also have that sense of enjoyment in your bracket as well, thot!

Kind regards,
saxxon

He is just calling as he sees it. And we all know what they say about opinions...
Although he really should have expected the responses he received considering he placed it in the 10-19 section of the forum.
Myself, I owe show no “allegiance” to any bracket or any faction as I play both factions and participate and multiple brackets. I have funded multiple brackets on both factions. It is merely a video game to played for fun to me.

/cheers
 
19s pvp in the current state is trash and anyone who disagrees is also trash

i just might have to roll a 19 overpowered spec properly geared enchanted just to show you tunnel vision snail pace heroes what i'm talking about

the players who say 19s are better atm than any other bracket are the same ones who would lose to me 1v5. In legion with templates it happened more often than not, in fact the only 5 man who could reliably win vs me unless I had an extremely unlucky group of new players/levelers was Pizzas groups

now with stats working in ipvp players like me have the power to 1v10, no disrespect to @Ripduck and his guild or team name but the real gods of warsong can farm you all out of existence, at least in the form of existing inside wsg because you would be incapable to move an inch after respawning before being annihilated

i'm thinking about creating a guild in the future that will span multiple brackets and could come shake this bracket up a bit, after all it has been just over a year since I had this whole bracket shook during the hardest twink expansion

ants to me
 
1. The Que times are worse then every other bracket ive played in (most likely because you guys have already farmed the levelers out of existence 2-3 weeks into prepatch)

less levellers queueing is good, keep farming them out.

2. The amount of sheer damage that 19 twinks do is senseless and impractial

seeing as you mentioned levellers earlier im assuming you mean it's senseless vs 400 hp lvl 11s, its fine for twinks vs twinks

3. You cant get anywhere without healers

get anywhere as in winning, or get anywhere as in running around the map?

first one is pretty self explanatory, second one is good that means you have to teamplay in mid to make things happen, not have 10 players running mindlessly around the map.

4. 1v1s last 5 seconds
good, 1v1s dont belong in WSG, if you're finding 1v1s in wsg you're playing the bg wrong, unless you mean a 1v1 between a rogue/boomie vs an out of position FC

5. This bracket is trash
i havent seen you in a single wargame, if you're judging a bracket based off pugs every bracket is trash.

6. come to 20-29s It's way more balanced in terms of burstyness and getting completely globaled by procs and not good players.

again, if you're judging purely based off pugs (29s hasnt had a single wargame yet) then it's still up for debate whether it's balanced at all

we'll see how balanced your bracket is on the 4th of august, hope you're on the winning team :) although history would suggest that's unlikely





Your's truly Fatfc

see u later man



tl;dr - a bad FC is comparing 2 brackets based on pugs in bfa lmao
 
i like 2 call these types of threads "bracket envy". you do not often see 19s going into the 29/39/49 bracket forums posting about how bad that bracket is, because we just have it so good in 19s we dont need to!

end of the day, if you enjoy the bracket and community your in then play that! 19s own because the community is tight knit and competitive, we all love it!

i hope you can also have that sense of enjoyment in your bracket as well, thot!

Kind regards,
saxxon

Hey man. What kind of drugs are you on and how do i get some?
 
less levellers queueing is good, keep farming them out.



seeing as you mentioned levellers earlier im assuming you mean it's senseless vs 400 hp lvl 11s, its fine for twinks vs twinks



get anywhere as in winning, or get anywhere as in running around the map?

first one is pretty self explanatory, second one is good that means you have to teamplay in mid to make things happen, not have 10 players running mindlessly around the map.


good, 1v1s dont belong in WSG, if you're finding 1v1s in wsg you're playing the bg wrong, unless you mean a 1v1 between a rogue/boomie vs an out of position FC


i havent seen you in a single wargame, if you're judging a bracket based off pugs every bracket is trash.



again, if you're judging purely based off pugs (29s hasnt had a single wargame yet) then it's still up for debate whether it's balanced at all

we'll see how balanced your bracket is on the 4th of august, hope you're on the winning team :) although history would suggest that's unlikely







see u later man



tl;dr - a bad FC is comparing 2 brackets based on pugs in bfa lmao
idiot you know nothing thot is 100x the player you will ever be

keep hiding behind your fixed "wargames", your kind don't have the brain capacity to understand what SoloQue is and how PuGs could be the highest quality games ever played

if every single "good" player Qd up for pugs solo eventually the best players would naturally gravitate toward the weaker faction to balance it out making for high quality, unpredictable, nail biting games but sadly 19s are infested with children and morons who actually have egos and use xpoff as a platform to defend themselves by coming here in numbers spreading false information and consistently downplaying pugs because of the simple fact they can't hang

don't understand?? here i'll make it super simple!

was 2018 nba finals even remotely competitive? if you watched and have any basketball knowledge you would know the answer is no. now picture the best players of the nba playing pick up basketball vs eachother. These pick up games would be far more competitive and exhibit their true potential, not that garbage you see in the nba. Basketball is a team game, warsong gulch is a team game. Fixed games vs pick up games. Only thing fixed games really show is how well you can play with that specific group vs another specific group. Pick up games show how well you can do under any situation because each one is different being with different groups every time. Disagree with me about this fact and you're clearly a supporter of fixed games making you no different than guys who fix sports matches. It isn't just about playing with your friends, as others have stated there are rated battlegrounds at max level if you enjoy playing with a certain group of players. Even some of the best and well known pvp endgame streamers have been advocating for rated soloque at max level for some time now. They aren't doing it because "lol pugs" but instead because it will push them further than where they can be with the current system of only being able to group Q. I don't really expect many of you to understand since most of you do nothing but 19s.
 
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