Some information on Retribution Paladins in 5.3

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For anyone who wanted to roll a Ret Paladin and didn't know how they were doing in 5.3.

- Same damage as Protection but, with better offhealing.

- If you have perfect ToT they are able to top charts quickly.

- They have the potential to 1v1 a skilled player of any class.

- No one class seems to counter them.

- They have really good burst.

If you have any other questions about how ret pallys are doing, just ask and I will answer any questions.
 
Hurrx said:
or u could roll holy and be useful and do same dmg as ret
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I can 1v1 hpallys as ret, but they can't come close to killing me. Also it is way more fun to run out and bash everyone in sight, then boredly denouncing and holy shocking for kbs.
 
same damage as prot you say? this sounds interesting maybe ill convert my prot pally... could you plz post some numbers? like maybe a couple of ss, i would be veeeerrry interested.

on a side note... prot does have an awesome silence!
 
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ChaelSonnen said:
same damage as prot you say? this sounds interesting maybe ill convert my prot pally... could you plz post some numbers? like maybe a couple of ss, i would be veeeerrry interested.
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Idk how protection dps is in 5.3, but everytime I play on my ret I have almost double the amount of damage as them. The damage is very consistent like 150 judgements, 200 crusader strikes, 150 white hits, 700 crit TVs, with seal of light critting 50s.
 
Roll ret and get raped by hunters - then say hunters should be nerfed ive seen this b4 im sure hum......
 
Trialmop said:
Roll ret and get raped by hunters - then say hunters should be nerfed ive seen this b4 im sure hum......
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Most Hunters in this bracket are easily solo-able by a decently skilled ret pally. Don't let this guy ruin your hopes and dreams.
 
Aradiel said:
Ret does not do the same DPS or burst as prot. Ret DPS is half that of prot, and even holy can out DPS ret. Ret heals are great, but ret mana is terrible. If the under geared ret in your sig is what you're basing this on, then I can only imagine how bad your prot set is. You have 308 HKs. Come back when you have some decent gear and some idea of what you're talking about.
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I have been playing in this bracket since it started in august 2011, I have over 200k Hk's on all of my trial accounts, I have over 300 geared trials at my usage, this is legit no joke. My dps as ret is a little under the amount of dps I do as prot. I will be posting DPS recounts to prove it. Ret mana is just as poor as Protection's mana and 1 heal from a ret is equally as god as a FoL if not better.

I would WAY rather prefer rets on my team than prots. Ret damage can be pretty bursty and scary,maybe not as good as prots but, don't put a buzzkill on the ret paladin movement.
 
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Cs is able to crit 300-350s, and TV can crit 700s, the damage is very consistent and very close to a protection paladins damage output. I have tested DPS in both specs.
 
Aradiel said:
As I said, ret heals are great. The issue, which is shared with prot, is the mana pool. As far as damage goes, most of ret's damage is from judgement. CS and TV barely do any damage, and neither does melee. What you're left with compared to prot is slightly better melee damage but no AS or HW. A poor trade off.

Okay, as I'm typing this you edited that last post to admit that prot DPS is better than ret. That's not what you said in the OP. I have no problem with people playing ret, but you are 100% wrong if you think ret damage, burst or overall DPS is higher than prot. Even holy can out DPS ret, and while their FoL isn't as good, they have HS to compensate.
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Also I think you are reading my thread wrong. I NEVER ONCE SAID RET DEALT MORE DPS THAN PROT.
 
are the hpallies you have 1v1d spanish

ps boomkin priest ele rogue hunt would all slaughter ret
 
Hurrx said:
are the hpallies you have 1v1d spanish

ps boomkin priest ele rogue would all slaughter ret
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Boomkins are very squishy, probably won't get away from a good ret. Priests are easily soloable by ret paladins as they are a clothie. Idk, about eles, they probably would blow up a ret if they are skilled. A skilled Hunter can easily kill a ret, but you don't see many of those. Also a rogue can not solo a ret, fake thier kick and they are screwed.
 
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wait a sec what the fuck are u talking about

priest easily soloable by ret? id probably steamroll you without any gear on

boomkins squishy, wouldnt get away from a good ret? seriously rejuv outheals your damage what are u gonna do

i suppose u arent aware of the mad pushback on retribution paladins' healing? you struggle getting one fol off vs a hunter spamming arcane shots

srsly lend me a priest or something i wanna see how easy it is for u to solo me
 
Hurrx said:
wait a sec what the fuck are u talking about

priest easily soloable by ret? id probably steamroll you without any gear on

boomkins squishy, wouldnt get away from a good ret? seriously rejuv outheals your damage what are u gonna do

i suppose u arent aware of the mad pushback on retribution paladins' healing? you struggle getting one fol off vs a hunter spamming arcane shots

srsly lend me a priest or something i wanna see how easy it is for u to solo me
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Let's realid it, and I'll stream it. This Monday if you are down.

Me on ret vs. you on a priest.

Can anyone lend this guy a Priest?
 
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Neon said:
Let's realid it, and I'll stream it. This Monday if you are down.

Me on ret vs. you on a priest.

Can anyone lend this guy a Priest?
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i see you are US. My bad i be thinking your EU. You should be fine vs the 7 Naked players on the other team - spec ret and have fun.
 
Aradiel said:
You said: Which is clearly wrong. You admit that now, at least in part in the edited post here: Ret DPS is a lot more than a little under prot DPS. It's not even close.

I completely agree about ret heals. They are far superior to prot. Prot can not even heal itself to full without going OOM. Of course if you want to heal, holy is superior to ret in both DPS and sustained healing output.
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U really are awsome lol
 
Aradiel said:
You said: Which is clearly wrong. You admit that now, at least in part in the edited post here: Ret DPS is a lot more than a little under prot DPS. It's not even close.

I completely agree about ret heals. They are far superior to prot. Prot can not even heal itself to full without going OOM. Of course if you want to heal, holy is superior to ret in both DPS and sustained healing output.
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It is a little under prots output I can prove it when I get on at monday.
 
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