So. How we feel about shadow priest?

It's not rly a no no spec actually there are a ton of priests playing it because it's the best it's been in a long time (it was sick in BFA but for different reasons,) it's still a solid mid tier spec. It has the consistent burst that disc doesn't have.
 
So stats? Talent? I was looking at spriest and started lvling. Seems cool. But every geared 20 goes disc.?. So haste is bis? Then? I did read few old threds. But. ?
 
the gearing priorities for disc n shadow can be nearly identical so for many the profile's just what they happened to last log out as. shadow's great. generally not the burst of a mm or destro but significant throughput that can be applied to a whole buncha enemies at once, and darn good survivability. mm hunts generally won't take my spriest 1v1. ok 44 weap survivals can but whadyagonaado.
 
Germinus said:
So stats? Talent? I was looking at spriest and started lvling. Seems cool. But every geared 20 goes disc.?. So haste is bis? Then? I did read few old threds. But. ?
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The vt talent takes less brain and is probably better long term but as someone who coordinates kill targets with a group I very much prefer the touch of death talent. When you use it properly your team can just snowball through the enemy team landing kill after kill and you'll pretty much constantly be at half or full insanity to cast dp inbetween tod kills for more instant pressure. Every geared 20 goes disc because most priests (healer twinks in general) are smooth brains lol. Haste is very good yes and I would try to aim for 15-20%. Vers and crit are obviously also good and mast is just OK. Honestly, if I cared more about my 20, I'd be sp (tbc socket pieces) > haste > vers > crit > mast or maybe sp > haste > crit = mast = vers if I wanted to play a less bursty and more dot orientated build.
 
It's ok. It's very similar to warlock tbh. I think warlock edges it out a bit, just because you can reflect spells and be immune while casting fear if you need it. Shadow gets 3 Mends and you are oom. Getting counterspelled sucks, 6 sec on all your main abilities is a ton. Bubbles are very good, it needs a team to really shine. Warlock is a better solo Qer imo. You can beat most marks, surv will own you pretty good I would think. I like the vt talent, just tried it a bit. Ohti stats looks correct, I'd aim for that.
 
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I consider cloth classes among the easiest to gear (the only dungeon drop you need are the pants, all other socket gear you can get from quests, for accessories you can easily go with ilvl 28 MOP vendors - maybe just the rings you should get some heavy haste ones).

I agree with sp>haste>vers, but I would say the same for all 3 specs - mostly because mastery affects either only healing for healing specs (and you wanna do dps too) and only DPS for Spriest (that has extremely strong heals, bring mana pots and you get unexpected healing).

talents I like the death word one in pugs, not only for the reset that is very useful in pugs, but even because even if you don't kill your target outright - but he dies withing 7 secs - you still get the reset AND the 40 Insanity. Against rually (but they are not that heavy right now) or heavy premade is not as effective, but the others won't help you too much anyway, and beeing able to use the execute on a random dps and have it ready for the primary healer two seconds later is quite good for me.

PVP talent the Psyfiend, for the movement speed and 50% less healing received, on a 45sec I consider it a steal.
The health swap if you are with some other twinks, but I normally pug and I still like the little guy a lot.

For proffs you can go cheap and easy with 25 eng for frag belt and glider cloak, and tailoring 1 for nets.
BE you still need herb to justify the race somehow (give me back the darn silence) to get bloodthistle (drugs ahoy).

Mind your 2 big cds, the shadowfiend and dispersion - I screw them up most of the time, but they are really good.

As a final note, I would put it on a different level than other pure dps specs, like Hunter or lock, for the immense utility it brings with excellent off-heals, you can normally outheal leveler healers (I'm still looking for a mana generating gimmick, if some1 has some tips I would appreciate them very much)
 
Billyballo said:
Yes like those - didn't think about that because cba soloing brd with a priest.
Just learned about a meta gem https://www.wowhead.com/spell=55396/insightful-earthsiege-diamond that works on a resto shaman, should do the same on Spriest.
I would like to know how the scholomance trinket works for hybirds - for example it does NOT restore mana on a prot paladin, but it does while holy.
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atleast when i tried the trinket on my 46 sp twink back in BFA it didnt work. same with fist of stone. no clue as of now
 
Shadow is really fun to play in bgs and skirms imo, It deals solid damage and can support nicely as well. Consider buying the combat mana potions from the vendor that sells the pvp gems, one combat potion restores 300+ mana which is a full mana bar for shadow, 5 minute cd though. I can test out price of progress to see if it works for shadow later as well.
 
toskosa said:
Shadow is really fun to play in bgs and skirms imo, It deals solid damage and can support nicely as well. Consider buying the combat mana potions from the vendor that sells the pvp gems, one combat potion restores 300+ mana which is a full mana bar for shadow, 5 minute cd though. I can test out price of progress to see if it works for shadow later as well.
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I would really appreciate if could test it when you have time. Would save me (and I think others as well) quite some time
 
Laurenti said:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/laughing-skull/neaptink this is my shadow set up, im stacking spellpower, crit, and haste. Running the VT talent for bursts with mindblast and crit procs up, but yeah its more than a fine spec. Has good utility in arena with void swap and can more than hold its own in a midfight as well.
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Crit haste build is only bis if you have shadowy apparitions. Int>haste=Vers>crit for 20s
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/bleeding-hollow/kracksxcx
 
Hashbrowns said:
You still have a substantial amount of crit, would haste/vers BoEs be a better option then or do the extra sockets remain king?
What about EF vs sp to wep?
Interestingly no cc break, do you just dispersion your way out?
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Tbc gear is still bis I think. The crit I have is basically because no other options or set bonus was too good. Yeah I don’t rlly need a trinket because of dispersion
[doublepost=1613504274,1613503815][/doublepost]And sp>ele force
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Kracks said:
Tbc gear is still bis I think. The crit I have is basically because no other options or set bonus was too good. Yeah I don’t rlly need a trinket because of dispersion
[doublepost=1613504274,1613503815][/doublepost]And sp>ele force
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I also think the boots I have are better than tbc boots because it’s 1 stam 7 offstats (3 vers 4 crit) and 4 speed vs 2 int 2 vers or 2 haste
 
Kracks said:
Tbc gear is still bis I think. The crit I have is basically because no other options or set bonus was too good. Yeah I don’t rlly need a trinket because of dispersion
[doublepost=1613504274,1613503815][/doublepost]And sp>ele force
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I also think the boots I have are better than tbc boots because it’s 1 stam 7 offstats (3 vers 4 crit) and 4 speed vs 2 int 2 vers or 2 haste
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Are you using that helm for the meta or for the cogs? I didn't think metas were too good but haven't tested that one.
 
the meta is rlly good for spriest and while i said that vers/haste is preferred over crit, crit is still a decent stat so i think 24 extra offstats is better than all other options available @Hashbrowns
 
I thank everyone here! Didnt know this would make such a nice topic over all. So much good info all around and debates about it. Helped me alot, hope it helps others too.
 
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