[Serious] Legion class changes and further discussion

I'm really liking the small number of abilities you get for each class/spec .

each healer has something special and unique too.

druids have the strong hots and mobility with a medium o shit button or even stronger heals

holy priest has the strongest "o shit heal" and nice mana regen or splitting heals.

disc has strong damage and healing split with variations on penance

rshaman has the only dispel and good mobility

monk has nice quick mobility and a good o shit button with a aoe heals

Pally has only healer stun. a self saving button, denounce and aoe heals or stronger shocks.

can't wait to play them all <3
 
Snowjobs said:
I'm really liking the small number of abilities you get for each class/spec .

each healer has something special and unique too.

druids have the strong hots and mobility with a medium o shit button or even stronger heals

holy priest has the strongest "o shit heal" and nice mana regen or splitting heals.

disc has strong damage and healing split with variations on penance

rshaman has the only dispel and good mobility

monk has nice quick mobility and a good o shit button with a aoe heals

Pally has only healer stun. a self saving button, denounce and aoe heals or stronger shocks.

can't wait to play them all <3
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with disc losing flash heal and penance no longer being a heal, it kinda feels more of a DPS spec with offheals rather than a healing spec
 
Yapah said:
with disc losing flash heal and penance no longer being a heal, it kinda feels more of a DPS spec with offheals rather than a healing spec
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Disc has a spammable instant heal to replace Flash Heal and a talent that makes Penance heal again.
 
Hashbrowns said:
LOL Sweeping Strikes allows your Execute to hit an additional target. GG
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Wow yea 29 rogue is going to be nasty...
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Yea but I feel most warriors wont think about it and take shockwave or storm bolt
 
Lluyd said:
Yea but I feel most warriors wont think about it and take shockwave or storm bolt
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If it was the WoD sweeping strikes I would take it.
The new sweeping strikes limit it to mortal strike and execute which sucks :(
 
i feel like having an enhance on your team could be very important if you take the windsong talent. but i guess it all depends on how the storm lash talent works . Stormlash - Spell - World of Warcraft seems promising .

afliction warlock will be the shit though imo . agony would be the strongest dot in the bracket which could be made even stronger for mega dot spec or you could take haunt / drain soul for mega damage or sustainability.
 
Arkant said:
Disc has a spammable instant heal to replace Flash Heal and a talent that makes Penance heal again.
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the spammable instant heal is 225% spellpower while flash heal is 450%
Also holy has an instant 1600% SP heal on a 1 minute cooldown, so holy will most likely be viable again
 
Snowjobs said:
i feel like having an enhance on your team could be very important if you take the windsong talent. but i guess it all depends on how the storm lash talent works . Stormlash - Spell - World of Warcraft seems promising .

afliction warlock will be the shit though imo . agony would be the strongest dot in the bracket which could be made even stronger for mega dot spec or you could take haunt / drain soul for mega damage or sustainability.
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I cant believe they made UA req lvl 26 tho, I might have to play 29 affliction in legion instead ^_^
 
Yapah said:
the spammable instant heal is 225% spellpower while flash heal is 450%
Also holy has an instant 1600% SP heal on a 1 minute cooldown, so holy will most likely be viable again
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Holy has no bubble, though. All they have is Flash Heal and a sort of LoH while Disc has bubble, a spammable instant heal and Penance while moving.
 
Holy

Flash Heal (450% of SP heal, 1.5 sec cast)
Holy Word: Serenity (1600% SP heal, instant, 1m cd)
Holy Fire (90% SP instant dmg + 315% SP over 9 sec)
Holy Word: Chastise (400% SP dmg, 5 sec stun)

Disc

Power Word: Shield (600% SP + versdmg absorb)
Shadow Word: Pain (47.5% SP instant dmg + 285% SP over 18 sec)
Mind Blast (250% SP dmg, 1.5 sec cast)
Penance (heal for 600% SP, dmg for 600% SP + 100% SP AoE from Schism)
Plea (225% SP, instant, cd??)
Psychic Scream (1m cd)

I don't know what the cooldown for Plea will be, but that might be perfectly fine alternative for Flash Heal. Maybe even better. Definitely leaning towards staying disc the more I read.
 
Eurys said:
Holy

Flash Heal (450% of SP heal, 1.5 sec cast)
Holy Word: Serenity (1600% SP heal, instant, 1m cd)
Holy Fire (90% SP instant dmg + 315% SP over 9 sec)
Holy Word: Chastise (400% SP dmg, 5 sec stun)

Disc

Power Word: Shield (600% SP + versdmg absorb)
Shadow Word: Pain (47.5% SP instant dmg + 285% SP over 18 sec)
Mind Blast (250% SP dmg, 1.5 sec cast)
Penance (heal for 600% SP, dmg for 600% SP + 100% SP AoE from Schism)
Plea (225% SP, instant, cd??)
Psychic Scream (1m cd)

I don't know what the cooldown for Plea will be, but that might be perfectly fine alternative for Flash Heal. Maybe even better. Definitely leaning towards staying disc the more I read.
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You have to choose between Schism and Penance Heal.

This is still fairly preliminary - I think Holy Priest will almost definitely (95% certainty) end up with Renew, which would do a lot to balance out its kit and make it a viable healer.
 
Eurys said:
Holy

Flash Heal (450% of SP heal, 1.5 sec cast)
Holy Word: Serenity (1600% SP heal, instant, 1m cd)
Holy Fire (90% SP instant dmg + 315% SP over 9 sec)
Holy Word: Chastise (400% SP dmg, 5 sec stun)

Disc

Power Word: Shield (600% SP + versdmg absorb)
Shadow Word: Pain (47.5% SP instant dmg + 285% SP over 18 sec)
Mind Blast (250% SP dmg, 1.5 sec cast)
Penance (heal for 600% SP, dmg for 600% SP + 100% SP AoE from Schism)
Plea (225% SP, instant, cd??)
Psychic Scream (1m cd)

I don't know what the cooldown for Plea will be, but that might be perfectly fine alternative for Flash Heal. Maybe even better. Definitely leaning towards staying disc the more I read.
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I don't think Plea will have a cooldown. Also Penance heal is a talent so you can't have Schism
 
You forgot to mention Pyroblast DoT is removed.

Excellent thread, it should get stickied.
 
arcane mage has the highest damage atm of anything. with static talent choice you can get 4 instant cast 750% sp arcane blasts.

disc can spec into a 800% sp damage penance

......... or you could be a destro lock and incinerate somebody for 143% ....... yup
 
Trialkiller said:
Just had a realization. For all you guys out there who plan on playing shaman / hunter in Legion you should stock up on those leather pieces from Satchel of Helpful Goods - Item - World of Warcraft because you'll only be getting mail from them in Legion.
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Does that mean there will be new mail pieces for 1 - 40 with Ag and Int on them? After I gear up my Huntard with leather, now going to have to do it again with mail in Legion :mad:
 
Icehawk said:
Does that mean there will be new mail pieces for 1 - 40 with Ag and Int on them? After I gear up my Huntard with leather, now going to have to do it again with mail in Legion :mad:
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Probably yes for the agi but maybe not so much for int. I'd like to see some more for sure but I don't think it's likely.
 
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