Satchels nerfed
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Dàwn the Hunter
Spirit Healer
Um I mean you could but I dont think you get all the other gear. atm I think its just cape and belt.
necroaqua
Grandfathered
It drops most of the things it will during pre-patch. Some things opened now will stay ilvl 25 as opposed to be ilvl 23 come patch.
Dàwn the Hunter
Spirit Healer
What gear are we talking about kinda want to know?
for lvl 20's that is so I can maybe try opening some of my 140+ bags lol.
necroaqua
Grandfathered
What gear are we talking about kinda want to know?
It can currently drop cloaks, belts, rings, shoulders bracers, gloves, necks, boots. Not sure if that is everything.
Dàwn the Hunter
Spirit Healer
So basiclly the same things as pre patch jsut ilvl 25 over 23? Sorry if i'm repeating myself asking this just dont want to open em unless I know Im getting the best out of that 140+ runs ahaha.
necroaqua
Grandfathered
I think only cloaks/belt stay 25. I think for most everything else it doesn't matter. The stats appear to be rerolling too.
Dàwn the Hunter
Spirit Healer
Ok good to know I guess I will just wait still thanks for that now I can focus on getting other stuff done in pre patch! <3
Bestworld
MBA
Except the satchel gear wasn't class-specific. Everyone could benefit from it. So the only ones being at a disadvantage would be those who either didn't do their homework, or didn't want to put in the effort.
Not all classes use 2-handers, but all classes use the pieces from the satchel.
Sharing the information isn't the issue, so the "keeping it secret" part is for another reason entirely. As you undoubtedly saw what happened as a consequence upon sharing the information (it getting reported), I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to understand.
The problem occurs when the shared information gets reported. Upon sharing the information with a lot of people, you drastically increase the chance of something getting reported. Especially if it's something that's obviously unintended, such as the satchel items.
That is why some people would have preferred for it to be "kept a secret", and not for the sake of not just wanting to share.
In a perfect world, we would be able to share anything among twinks without having to worry about other individuals reporting. And trust me, one does not need a PHD in psychology to wonder if the people reporting are simply people who can't / won't put in the effort required to benefit from the discoveries. We're all twinks at heart and want our character's to matter, so what do you do if you believe that you can't jump on the wagon and get the items that makes you feel like your twinks matter? Easy, you make it so that every other twink "won't matter" as well by reporting it.
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The belt and cloaks that stay 25 are the ones from the old satchels, not the ones you get currently. Everything that you open from the current satchels will get scaled to 23 in BFA.
Allybeboba
Legend
Not necessarily lazy my friend. Just don’t have time.
/cheers
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It is funny isn’t it?
Might even be the very same people that complain about people using consumables I reckon. Kek...
/cheers
MYT
Legend
Why is it that younger people are so f-ing stupid that they support things like not letting people voice their opinion both here and in their socialist politics? Are they literally too stupid to understand what the alternative is or did their parents allow them to be indoctrinated?
As a member of the so called community I personally don’t care what you think is best for me and neither does anyone else. Grow some balls and learn to listen to opinions that aren’t your own - or ignore them, but don’t silence them.
As a member of the so called community I personally don’t care what you think is best for me and neither does anyone else. Grow some balls and learn to listen to opinions that aren’t your own - or ignore them, but don’t silence them.
Allybeboba
Legend
There is one...
Has been one for a long long time.
One of the first ones created when the feature became available.
/cheers
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You answered your own question with the last two words in your first question my friend.
/cheers
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Guy with the red shirt...
/cheers
Zinqo
Veteran
Don't think you have any idea how many of us has reported both the satchel bug and the engineering one and still farmed a couple 100satchels incase it wouldn't get fixed. Yet we still wanted it to get fixed, just some of us rather want to play decently fun bgs rather than a big cluster fuck with 20 exploding sheep's oneshotting everything.... So don't bring your bullshit of not wanting to farm... I personally think it was the minority of the people reporting these exploits based on not wanting to farm shit em self...
Holythane
Lewno
Every very op item gets patched, this is no different, we only wanted it for a while to have some fun...
Kirise
OG
This is the root of the conflict that the twink community faces. Some of us want the community to grow, to involve more people, to make things more competitive, to increase the standards of gearing and play. Heck, this very site has an entire guide section for all kinds of information freely shared with everyone. I and other twinkers have a history of getting to-be-grandfathered gear/enchants/etc. specifically for the purpose of reporting it and getting problems fixed, because we've seen the positive impact doing so has on encouraging people to play.
Others want to keep secrets, most of which are to gain stats advantage. You're all for growing the community, as long as its not at the expense of your own advantage. When twinkers like these use the term "community", they mean "our exclusive clubhouse". To be sure, you work as hard as any twinker here, you do your research, you put in the grind. But you think this entitles you to beat up some sort of "underclass" of players, and then cry foul when other twinkers collaborate with Blizzard to make the game better.
Gear matters for more than just stats. When it's hard to gear for a bracket, twinkers respect each other more. You put in the grind, you show up with BiS, and even if you can't PvP, you showed some dedication. This is why ilvl templates may have made stat scaling more balanced, but taking a bunch of gear out of the equation reduced this "twink badge of honor" for a lot of players. Grandfathered gear is a great way to demonstrate longtime dedication. However, excess grandfathered gear discourages play in a given bracket -- no matter how hard you work, you'll never match your forebears.
If XPoff.com members want a public website dedicated to promoting twinking and not just act as a twink livejournal account of "look what I got past Blizzard har har har", then clubhouse twinkers need to take a hard look at their motivations. Banning longtime twinkers who have the guts to make a stand for better games and making straw man attacks about twinkers "too lazy to grind" accomplishes the opposite.
Zinqo
Veteran
Ye cus old satchel gear got fixed? Oh wait...
Ye cus old proffesion into delevel bug got fixed? Oh wait
Ye cus old enchantment bug got fixed? Oh wait
Took years before goblin goggles got fixed as well..
Cba naming more shit
Goesid
Twink Info Legend
It did get fixed. People reported it and it got removed. Professions arent visible on inspect so thats harder to do ingame but the only people who still have old satchel gear are the people that did not use it.
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Or people not playing during the probably 1 day to a week during which it is available.
Zinqo
Veteran
Enchantment bug still around, and ye I don't use my gear but got atleast 2 chars with full satchel gear and again goblin goggle exploit took 2years before fix