Omgimarogue
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Conrose said:
of course!!
they did always say the pen is mightier than the sword - so, if you combine swords and smartness...you win!!
Rouges at 19
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of course!!
they did always say the pen is mightier than the sword - so, if you combine swords and smartness...you win!!
Omgimarogue
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Conrose said:
and blacksmithing
Omgimarogue
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kablam said:
!! you're right
you can enchant your own gear!!!
Ego
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noobietwink said:Head: [ITEM]Battered Jungle Hat[/ITEM] is good until you get [ITEM]Ruby Shades[/ITEM]
Neck: [ITEM]Malachite Pendant[/ITEM]
Shoulder:[ITEM] Reinforced Woolen Shoulders[/ITEM]
Cape: [ITEM]Loose Chain Cloak[/ITEM] (50 armor)
Chest: [ITEM]Robe of the Moccasin[/ITEM] (+3 stats)
Bracers: [ITEM]Crystalline Cuffs[/ITEM] (7 Int)
Weapons: 2x [ITEM]Warped blade[/ITEM] 's (Beastslaying x2) i use these for bg
Ranged:[ITEM] Sunstrider Bow[/ITEM] (no enchant)
Waist: [ITEM]Squealer's Belt[/ITEM]
Gloves: [ITEM]Jutebraid Gloves[/ITEM] (16 sp)
Legs: [ITEM]Tuxedo Pants[/ITEM] (Don't enchant these or they lose there armor)
Feet: [ITEM]Spidersilk Boots[/ITEM] (7 Stam)
Ring: [ITEM]The Rock[/ITEM] x2
Trinket 1:Leave this empty just in case they come out with a new trinket
Trinket 2:See above comment ---^
Fixed by the true rogue pro of these forums
Omgimarogue
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Ego said:
the links are kinda f'd
but i rofl'd irl anyway
Omgimarogue
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Ego said:They look fine on my screen. Maybe you just need to reload <3 I have had times where it would say something like Battered Jungle Hat but the person was actually linking Green Tinted Goggles (Just as an example) ^_^
f5 fixed :S
and durr how could you forget mindthrust!?
Bluntforce said:
It seems this post didn't go to well :s
Hard when u claim to know a lot/ all about roghue twinks, in a forum full of twinks who wanna test your experience and in some cases proove u wrong.
annyway the idea wasn't bad, say for a total new player who want a rogue, but as other said, take the advices into conssiderence, much of the talk is now what would be best .. the hit before dodge and stuff.
PS. U peeps need to add thiefs blade MH and cruel bard OH( both wiht beast slayer!) for sick awesome ap gear when u tries to kill drood or dranei's or dörfs cuz they all goes under the category of "beasts" .. yer
Conrose
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Dinkorastamán said:
The problem is that the advice isn't all bad if you were playing during Classic or BC when Rogues had insane dodge gains from Agility along with Druids. However, starting some time during BC, 19's lost 5% dodge from talents, then Blizz decided on the DR for Avoidance... and then the more recent dodge nerfs that shot from 80 down to 1.
So alot of agility's value vs Fiery has been lost. Damage Wise, Fiery is strictly better than 15 agility which accounts for 2-3 damage per sinister strike and white swings with 2.6 speed weapons, halved for offhand white hits, and 2.5 bonus damage on a 5 point eviscerate... you're looking at a total of 15 attacks to make up for the 40 damage from a fiery proc. At 2.6 Speed, just to make 10 white attacks, it would take 13 seconds to white attack 10 times at 2.6 speed. Fiery is set at 6 procs a minute, or an average of once every 10 seconds.
When you start to take into mind the fact that targets are quite mobile and that rogues lack any stuns or snares at this low a level, the value of Agility Enchant drops dramatically in the Damage department.
Bluntforce
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noobietwink said:Head: Green Tinted Goggles is good until you get Lucky Fishing Hat
Neck: Thick Bronze Necklace
Shoulder: Stained Shadowcraft Spaulders
Cape: Sentry Cloak (improved stealth)
Chest: Toughened Leather Armor (100 health)
Bracers: Forest Leather Bracers (9 stam)
Weapons: 2 Butchers Slicer's (15 agi) i use these for bg
Ranged: Venomstrike (scope +2 damadge)
Gloves: Deviate Scale Gloves (15 agi)
Waist: Belt of the fang or if you wanna make it easier do Deviate Scale Belt
Feet: Riggid Moccasins of the Monkey (7 Stam)
Ring: Blood Ring x2
Trinket 1: Arena Grand Master
Trinket 2:Minor Recombobulator or Insignia Of The Horde/Allianca
You don't even have all this stuff
Bluntforce
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Conrose said:
Yes but the agility is not strictly for damage, it also account for crit, and a good crit will hit for more then a noncrit with a fiery proc. You also get dodge, which is still a useful stat, nerfs and all.
Conrose
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Bluntforce said:
And what of a Crit that procs Fiery? That hits for much more than the crit alone. +15 Agility accounts for a hair over 2% crit, and 0.75% dodge before DR. It's not gonna be as game breaking as say a white hit, SS Crit, OH white hit + a Fiery Proc, potentially 2 all at the second you pop out of stealth on someone like a healer.
Especially when you consider the fact that the number one threat to rogues in the bracket, Hunters, completely bypasses dodge in the majority of situations, so being able to smash as much damage as humanly possible in the 2 or 3 seconds we have on them before they wingclip and kite you is important... and that warriors would smile the second you dodge one of their attacks.
