Dorigon
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That is basically what I expected. I've got a couple of Swedish ex-pat friends here, one from Vastra Gotalands and the other from Stockholm, and they have both described it similarly.
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True, although generally the european countries are much smaller than the US and thus we're generally closer to the action.
What? Aren't you missing a "not" somewhere in that sentence?
Dorigon
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You have it backwards. Can compare it to us avoiding certain inner-city areas in the states. As in, places where we wouldn't want to go. From what I understand, this ghettoization is comparably recent in Sweden and has coincided with increased immigration.
Achmed
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Sorry but in EU you don't get shot on the street, in school, in clubs... or whatever.
That educated we are compared to these savages known as muricans.
Now i wonder why so many institutions dedicated to surveillance and defense of Murica. Isn't because you're all scared like shit? Thus, Murica=nation of chickens..
...i wonder
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That educated we are compared to these savages known as muricans.
Now i wonder why so many institutions dedicated to surveillance and defense of Murica. Isn't because you're all scared like shit? Thus, Murica=nation of chickens..
...i wonder
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First of all, please for the love of your god, if you're referring to the Syrian's coming to the European countries over the past months; they're not "immigrants" they are refugees. There is a huge difference.
Secondly I doubt it has increased. It was the same case in my country Denmark, the media had a story every second week about a refugee doing some criminal act, and tried to blow it up as "the refugees are making our country less safe", but in reality, when the police published their report, the criminal activity was actually lower than what it used to be.
What I'm saying is, the media loves a good story about a criminal refugee, since it, sadly, matches many peoples picture of said refugees. But honestly, I'm more afraid of those, that are "afraid" of the refugees, than I am of the refugees.
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Now, now. No need to get personal just because you were corrected, we all make mistakes.
Everyone can go anywhere, I don't know where you got this notion from, but these "zones", which most likely are best described as semi-ghettoes, are just areas where there is a high % of people living that aren't ethnic swedes.
Allybeboba
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Sorry but in EU you don't get shot on the street, in school, in clubs... or whatever.
That educated we are compared to these savages known as muricans.
Now i wonder why so many institutions dedicated to surveillance and defense of Murica. Isn't because you're all scared like shit? Thus, Murica=nation of chickens..
...i wonder
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please... I barely even had to look.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/22/europe/austria-concert-shooting/
https://www.vice.com/read/two-mass-shootings-rocked-europe-this-week
80 dead in Norway in this one...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=0
Be educated, not HATEducated.
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The discussion is not wether or not there has been incidents in EU where people were killed, it's a discussion of how frequently it happens.
So far, this month alone!, the USA have had 17 mass shootings... and we're only halfway through
Dorigon
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There are many Syrians among them, but even hen the Syrians are a minority. Many who originate from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, etc etc. There are conflicts all over the Middle East and North Africa. While many are refugees, the demographics are also a bit skewed. Statistics that I have seen (on my phone at 11pm, can't be bothered to find) reveal a very high frequency of young men without families. Looking at photos too, it's often a bunch ogf young men, with no elderly, women, or children. I don't know what to make of this phenomenon.
Dorigon
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Taking gun laws into account, it's a given that the USA will have more mass shootings. Let's say several thousand deaths per year. With a population of 330 million, and not taking into account that I don't even reside in the states, I've got a higher chance to be struck by lightning while being eaten by a shark than to be a victim of a mass shooting.
Achmed
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typical murican bla bla when cornered
I know you got my points right everytime, it's just you like to play the ignorant role each time something hurts you.
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You're wrong and right. The Syrians are the vast majority of the refugees.
And yes it's often lone young men. The reason is, that to cross the Mediterranean Sea they have to pay smugglers to get them across, and it's obviously very dangerous. I'm sure you, even across the Atlantic, have seen just how many refugees drown on their way to Greece and Italy. Well either they can only afford to send one family member across, or they won't risk wiping out their entire family. Now, the reason for only sending one family member across, which usually are the men, is that, when you reach a European country, they usually have laws that allow you to bring your family to stay with you, after you have lived in the country for a while and have been granted residency. Now the rest of their family will have a much safer passage to a country in which they won't risk being killed by ISIS or the Syrian government
Allybeboba
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What exactly constitutes a "mass shooting"? I can also guarantee you all that the US has had more deaths on the roads than any other country. More deaths in a few months from vehicles accidents than have been killed by guns in an entire year. In Texas, each and every year more Americans die from vehicle accidents than have died in the entirety of the time of the Afghan War. Does anyone talk about "vehicle deaths"? No... Why? Because most people owns/needs a vehicle. Not everyone owns a firearm.
Be educated, not HATEducated.
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Do you not think that it would be worth it, to reevaluate these gun laws then?...
My comment was mostly directed at Allybeboba though
Allybeboba
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typical murican bla bla when cornered
I know you got my points right everytime, it's just you like to play the ignorant role each time something hurts you.
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kek... you stated shootings don't happen in Europe. I cited 3 examples rather quickly I might add.. I can cite some stabbings and some IEDs if you like. Even some examples of where your "freedoms" were removed.
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A situation involving multiple victims who are either killed or injured due to gun violence? As far as I know there are no definitive accepted definition of a mass shooting.
I'm pretty sure people are talking about vehicle deaths, and I hope for your country and your state, that you're doing your best to prevent accidents from happening. They are at least in my city. In fact didn't Texas just enact the hands-free driving law?
Anyway, if you're trying to justify mass shootings by mentioned accidents in vehicles, I hope you can see yourself how flawed that argument is? Just because another problem appears, it doesn't mean you shouldn't still try to solve the first one.
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Everyone except for you, understood what he meant. That you are wayyyy less likely to get shot in your school, your local theatre or your church in EU than you are in the US
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i live in stockholm and as IT is right now, the feminazis and the soccer huligans are a Much bigger problem than refugees. atleast for me.
ofc some of the suburbs arent super nice, and seen some shit about police nogo zones, due to people throwing shit at them and similar. but could be propaganda. also most of the people who gror up in these places Learns that cops are something to look down on, that these people from the suburbs are shit in the politicians eyes because they arent rich and come from a poorer zone and also the gangs in the suburbs knows their shit, so the police cant do Much about IT.
this mentality in the suburbs are a Much bigger problem than the refugees who arent really a problem. i know a few and 90% just want a new start in their life. IF the politicians actually started to care about what happends in these places,
where noone got that gant suit the whole country would be 110% better. but we have this fat socialdemocrat löfven who cant do shit.
also the gunlaws might be better here, but its still pretty Easy to buy a Gun here.
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ofc some of the suburbs arent super nice, and seen some shit about police nogo zones, due to people throwing shit at them and similar. but could be propaganda. also most of the people who gror up in these places Learns that cops are something to look down on, that these people from the suburbs are shit in the politicians eyes because they arent rich and come from a poorer zone and also the gangs in the suburbs knows their shit, so the police cant do Much about IT.
this mentality in the suburbs are a Much bigger problem than the refugees who arent really a problem. i know a few and 90% just want a new start in their life. IF the politicians actually started to care about what happends in these places,
where noone got that gant suit the whole country would be 110% better. but we have this fat socialdemocrat löfven who cant do shit.
also the gunlaws might be better here, but its still pretty Easy to buy a Gun here.
blå makt sosse slakt xdddd
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