RIP ROP etc.

[lofi]

RoP isn't going anywhere. Everyone calm down

 

[CripzBlood]

RoP isn't going anywhere. Everyone calm down

update rankings thread pls, it has been 2months, are u having technical issues?

 

[lofi]

update rankings thread pls, it has been 2months, are u having technical issues?

I will get an update out this week. I did a capture last month and then forgot to post it :/

 

[plomplom]

Either way RoP gonna be gfd or not, I thought RoP and doomspikes is not gonna be BiS anymore in wod. So why bother farming?

 

[Rhaellia]

Wowhead is not that reliable with drop rates and info dealing with older content.

This is on the PTR.

#BFDscare2014

 

[Pooh]

Wowhead is not that reliable with drop rates and info dealing with older content.

This is on the PTR.

#BFDscare2014

Nice sword imma probably farm it

 

[Goesid]

Either way RoP gonna be gfd or not, I thought RoP and doomspikes is not gonna be BiS anymore in wod. So why bother farming?

Why wouldn't it. Rop still has the 2nd most agi and ds 1 more agi than wicked dagger with having some crit and same dps.

Where did you get this info? If you listened to some idiot who just looked at the dps then okey but all weapons have had their dps reduced.

 

[plomplom]

Why wouldn't it. Rop still has the 2nd most agi and ds 1 more agi than wicked dagger with having some crit and same dps.

Where did you get this info? If you listened to some idiot who just looked at the dps then okey but all weapons have had their dps reduced.

Well then. Let the farm QQ continue.

 

[danny glover]

Why wouldn't it. Rop still has the 2nd most agi and ds 1 more agi than wicked dagger with having some crit and same dps.

Where did you get this info? If you listened to some idiot who just looked at the dps then okey but all weapons have had their dps reduced.

wicked dagger is already better, nerds just want something to feel special about so they use doomspike. i have a pair, wouldn't even use them for mogging.

 

[raziel83]

wicked dagger is already better, nerds just want something to feel special about so they use doomspike. i have a pair, wouldn't even use them for mogging.

Yup. Plus crit cannot be obtained from agility anymore (wod). So the crit on the wicked dagger is even more valuable that it is now.

 

[bigdip]

Yup. Plus crit cannot be obtained from agility anymore (wod). So the crit on the wicked dagger is even more valuable that it is now.

Isnt the percentage you crit getting lowered tho? so crits dont hit as hard?

Edit:
Critical strikes reduced to 150% damage versus players (from 200%).

 

[raziel83]

Isnt the percentage you crit getting lowered tho? so crits dont hit as hard?

Edit:
Critical strikes reduced to 150% damage versus players (from 200%).

Yeah I thought so too but all my crits on beta are double damage.....so not sure what's going on.

edit; oh right. Against players. Duh! Haven't tested verse players. Good point.

 

[Palonabanana]

Yup. Plus crit cannot be obtained from agility anymore (wod). So the crit on the wicked dagger is even more valuable that it is now.

I recommend to do more theorycrafting, but my enh shaman ptr tests indicate that crit may be pretty worthless. Agi seems to be worth over 5x as much as crit, point for point, because of much better ap->dps conversion. Rogue may be similar.

 

[vppl]

In wod:
Doomspike :3agi 3stamina
Wicked dagger: 2agi 2 stamina 3crit
I am sure that 3 crit is better than 1 agi.
Even when you calculate it on pvp in wod:
1crit on 20lvl is 0.2%
3crit- 0,6%
0,6%x1.5dmg = 0,9% dmg
One wicked dagger gives 0.054% bonus dmg on pvp from crit
One doomspike gives you 1agi more it means 1/5 bonus (+1 wepon dmg)
x2 weapons = +0,4 weapon dmg
Now calculate
100,054% dmg vs 100% +0.4 dmg
Max mele wep dmg is 20 (both)
Wicked dagger 20x1,0054 x2 weapons = 20.216
Doomspike 20+0.4 = 20.4

When your mele strike is bigger than 74dmg, wicked dagger > doomspike