Mocha
Legendary
Hey guys,
So I previously had the Naga Epic with just a mac bluetooth keyboard and I noticed a few things. I was always hitting in between the side 12 keys on the side of the Naga as the Naga Epic had keys that were all level with each other with the exception of 1 or 2 small bars on a few keys similar to that of a keyboard. Bottom line, blindfinding was horrible and even after a year and a half I was still not happy with the Naga Epic. The other issue was if the mouse was not snug into my hand, the buttons were so hard to press that it would actually move my mouse cursor just to press a button so I had to deathtrap the thing to use any buttons.
With my apple keyboard I actually didn't mind playing games on it as the amount of force you need to use to trigger a response was very little. In addition to that, there was no half pressing and no faulty response, Like on previous gaming keyboards I've noticed I would accidentally half press a key and it wouldn't catch the trigger.
So today I went in to swap out my Naga Epic for the new Naga Epic Chroma as I've found out that they have definition in the keys which the previous Epic did not have. My store was out of Epic Chromas and I already traded in my mouse so basically I HAD to buy a mouse if I wanted to play any time soon. I did have the G600 Logitech and returned it after 1 day. It was a great mouse, but the response wasn't 100 and I found a few thumb navigation issues that made it rough for me to use. Overall, great mouse though if you didn't have any of the issues I had.
I could either order in a Naga Epic Chroma, buy one elsewhere and not get my 2 year replacement protection that allowed me to trade in my old Naga Epic for full price 1 1/2 year later, or check out the normal Naga. I remember the difference between the 2013 models was the Epic had multiple glow variations, wireless capability, and the adjustable ring rest. But besides that, the mice were the same. I went over to check out the Naga and noticed holy crap, the keys were mechanical on this model too AND there's definition in each key.
I wasn't sure if I should just buy this Naga and go with it our get the Naga Chroma in a few days. It appears that the only differences are the Wireless capability which I didn't use, and the glow customization with different colors, which I didn't care for either. Long story short, I got the Naga and this thing blows my previous Naga Epic out of the water (hah). The keys are so much easier to press and responsive. The 2014 Naga was also a good 6 dollars cheaper... 60 dollars for the ability to go wireless and change the LED colors? No thanks. Not that the wireless Naga Epic I had had battery issues or anything, I just would rather run a cable. I'm very happy with the 2014 Naga and saved some cash for me too.
I was thinking about how when I play on my apple keyboard, I have some pretty akward control key combos and it makes my hand uncomfortable. Also the angle at which my left hand is always at, isn't the best thing either. I'm a guitar player and I care a lot about not straining my hands. So I considered a game pad. Went over and checked them out and noticed the palm rest is absolutely comfy and puts my hand at a comfortable position with how my desk is.
I ended up getting the Tartarus for now which I know is probably the bottom line gamepad from Razer. Personally the keys are fine although I'm still getting used to pressing them as they require slightly more effort than the apple keyboard. I did have to complete change some binds mainly my interface binds which usually were way out of reach from my left hand anyways as I never needed to use them in high stress situations. The thumb control options are great as normally my thumb would work Jump, C, V, and B. I had to find a good way to bind my thumb to the buttons around the joystick and the joystick itself so it would make sense in my mind. I didn't want anything spamable on my joystick as the log there is already speaking for itself. I found a keymap that works best for me.
In the future I will upgrade to the Orbweaver or Orbweaver Stealth which does have full mechanical keys AND another entire row of keys that the Tartarrus doesn't have. But for now, this thing is much more comfortable for my hand so both of my arms are relaxed and straight from the elbow down and no sharp angles at my wrists or anything.
As nerdy and "who cares?" as this all sounds, this is all information that I would have liked to have had in the past. This is all information that I picked up after spending quite a bit of time figuring out how I'm going to make sure that my controllers are practical and easy to use.
Personally there is a steep learning curve with the Tartarus which is going to take me a few days to get used to. Mainly the thumb maneuvers. As opposed to just pressing 3 keys above space, now I have to navigate a joystick for keybinds, AND navigate another separable key above that as well as the small thumb space bar. It's rough to get the hang of for me because my binds relied on C V and B being used and all shift forms of each.
If I could change 2 things: 1) I'd have the mechanical keypad instead and 2) I would have used this set up earlier. Unfortunately, these things were pretty much prototypes when I was taking gaming more seriously but for the players looking to take games seriously, the combination of the new and improved Naga or Chroma if that interests you, with the Gamepad is insane. When I have mechanical keypad over the Tartarus, I'll be using a set up that is quite perfect.
Now one thing. I hate the big name brands and the "using stuff because of the name" crap. I've tried a lot of set ups in the past and pretty much used everything. I've used nearly every gaming mouse, many keyboards, and I even have used most of the mouse pad surfaces and even used the hard plastic pad surfaces too! I really wanted to like the g600 more than the Naga and when I first got it, I was insanely happy and bragging about finding something better than the Naga. But the way those side 12 are laid out \/\/ it made for a difficult time trying to move from the top 6 section of keys (1-6) to the bottom 6 section of keys (7-12). If you try one out, you could imagine what I was having issues with. Then I found out that the Naga has textured keys and they don't provide a ridge between 4+5+6 and the 7+8+9 keys so I can navigate freely and accurately. The g600 did not feel as accurate as my Naga Epic did and did not respond like a 100% perfect mouse movement should. For some people, I'm sure the g600 movement is fine, but my Naga Epic's movement was basically perfect and made for a perfect influence experience.
I'm sure there's some pricier and different brand options that could be superior to both items, but for the gamer who's looking at new gear, the 2014 Naga and a Razer gamepad is something I'd highly recommend. Again, I'd use the Orbweaver for the mechanical keys, but for now I'm using the Tartarus. Also I've had so many Razer products and had many break (google Razer, Scroll Wheel) but I always get the 2 year Geek Squad protection at Best Buy for the little extra $ (like 10-15 dollars or something) and I know that my products are going to last me. Keep in mind, I used the Epic for a year and a half, went in and spoke about the issue where in wireless mode sometimes the cursor will get stuck (at least it did on my Mac) and I was able to put the full amount that I paid for that mouse into store credit to use to swap out for the Naga or if I wanted to, use the full amount for the Epic Chroma and pay the difference.
I know this sounds very spokesperson-esque, but use this info if you wish. I personally don't get any benefit from sharing this information other than the chance that I've helped making gaming easier for 1-2 people. This is all info that would have helped me had I known!
Cheers,
Mocha
So I previously had the Naga Epic with just a mac bluetooth keyboard and I noticed a few things. I was always hitting in between the side 12 keys on the side of the Naga as the Naga Epic had keys that were all level with each other with the exception of 1 or 2 small bars on a few keys similar to that of a keyboard. Bottom line, blindfinding was horrible and even after a year and a half I was still not happy with the Naga Epic. The other issue was if the mouse was not snug into my hand, the buttons were so hard to press that it would actually move my mouse cursor just to press a button so I had to deathtrap the thing to use any buttons.
With my apple keyboard I actually didn't mind playing games on it as the amount of force you need to use to trigger a response was very little. In addition to that, there was no half pressing and no faulty response, Like on previous gaming keyboards I've noticed I would accidentally half press a key and it wouldn't catch the trigger.
So today I went in to swap out my Naga Epic for the new Naga Epic Chroma as I've found out that they have definition in the keys which the previous Epic did not have. My store was out of Epic Chromas and I already traded in my mouse so basically I HAD to buy a mouse if I wanted to play any time soon. I did have the G600 Logitech and returned it after 1 day. It was a great mouse, but the response wasn't 100 and I found a few thumb navigation issues that made it rough for me to use. Overall, great mouse though if you didn't have any of the issues I had.
I could either order in a Naga Epic Chroma, buy one elsewhere and not get my 2 year replacement protection that allowed me to trade in my old Naga Epic for full price 1 1/2 year later, or check out the normal Naga. I remember the difference between the 2013 models was the Epic had multiple glow variations, wireless capability, and the adjustable ring rest. But besides that, the mice were the same. I went over to check out the Naga and noticed holy crap, the keys were mechanical on this model too AND there's definition in each key.
I wasn't sure if I should just buy this Naga and go with it our get the Naga Chroma in a few days. It appears that the only differences are the Wireless capability which I didn't use, and the glow customization with different colors, which I didn't care for either. Long story short, I got the Naga and this thing blows my previous Naga Epic out of the water (hah). The keys are so much easier to press and responsive. The 2014 Naga was also a good 6 dollars cheaper... 60 dollars for the ability to go wireless and change the LED colors? No thanks. Not that the wireless Naga Epic I had had battery issues or anything, I just would rather run a cable. I'm very happy with the 2014 Naga and saved some cash for me too.
I was thinking about how when I play on my apple keyboard, I have some pretty akward control key combos and it makes my hand uncomfortable. Also the angle at which my left hand is always at, isn't the best thing either. I'm a guitar player and I care a lot about not straining my hands. So I considered a game pad. Went over and checked them out and noticed the palm rest is absolutely comfy and puts my hand at a comfortable position with how my desk is.
I ended up getting the Tartarus for now which I know is probably the bottom line gamepad from Razer. Personally the keys are fine although I'm still getting used to pressing them as they require slightly more effort than the apple keyboard. I did have to complete change some binds mainly my interface binds which usually were way out of reach from my left hand anyways as I never needed to use them in high stress situations. The thumb control options are great as normally my thumb would work Jump, C, V, and B. I had to find a good way to bind my thumb to the buttons around the joystick and the joystick itself so it would make sense in my mind. I didn't want anything spamable on my joystick as the log there is already speaking for itself. I found a keymap that works best for me.
In the future I will upgrade to the Orbweaver or Orbweaver Stealth which does have full mechanical keys AND another entire row of keys that the Tartarrus doesn't have. But for now, this thing is much more comfortable for my hand so both of my arms are relaxed and straight from the elbow down and no sharp angles at my wrists or anything.
As nerdy and "who cares?" as this all sounds, this is all information that I would have liked to have had in the past. This is all information that I picked up after spending quite a bit of time figuring out how I'm going to make sure that my controllers are practical and easy to use.
Personally there is a steep learning curve with the Tartarus which is going to take me a few days to get used to. Mainly the thumb maneuvers. As opposed to just pressing 3 keys above space, now I have to navigate a joystick for keybinds, AND navigate another separable key above that as well as the small thumb space bar. It's rough to get the hang of for me because my binds relied on C V and B being used and all shift forms of each.
If I could change 2 things: 1) I'd have the mechanical keypad instead and 2) I would have used this set up earlier. Unfortunately, these things were pretty much prototypes when I was taking gaming more seriously but for the players looking to take games seriously, the combination of the new and improved Naga or Chroma if that interests you, with the Gamepad is insane. When I have mechanical keypad over the Tartarus, I'll be using a set up that is quite perfect.
Now one thing. I hate the big name brands and the "using stuff because of the name" crap. I've tried a lot of set ups in the past and pretty much used everything. I've used nearly every gaming mouse, many keyboards, and I even have used most of the mouse pad surfaces and even used the hard plastic pad surfaces too! I really wanted to like the g600 more than the Naga and when I first got it, I was insanely happy and bragging about finding something better than the Naga. But the way those side 12 are laid out \/\/ it made for a difficult time trying to move from the top 6 section of keys (1-6) to the bottom 6 section of keys (7-12). If you try one out, you could imagine what I was having issues with. Then I found out that the Naga has textured keys and they don't provide a ridge between 4+5+6 and the 7+8+9 keys so I can navigate freely and accurately. The g600 did not feel as accurate as my Naga Epic did and did not respond like a 100% perfect mouse movement should. For some people, I'm sure the g600 movement is fine, but my Naga Epic's movement was basically perfect and made for a perfect influence experience.
I'm sure there's some pricier and different brand options that could be superior to both items, but for the gamer who's looking at new gear, the 2014 Naga and a Razer gamepad is something I'd highly recommend. Again, I'd use the Orbweaver for the mechanical keys, but for now I'm using the Tartarus. Also I've had so many Razer products and had many break (google Razer, Scroll Wheel) but I always get the 2 year Geek Squad protection at Best Buy for the little extra $ (like 10-15 dollars or something) and I know that my products are going to last me. Keep in mind, I used the Epic for a year and a half, went in and spoke about the issue where in wireless mode sometimes the cursor will get stuck (at least it did on my Mac) and I was able to put the full amount that I paid for that mouse into store credit to use to swap out for the Naga or if I wanted to, use the full amount for the Epic Chroma and pay the difference.
I know this sounds very spokesperson-esque, but use this info if you wish. I personally don't get any benefit from sharing this information other than the chance that I've helped making gaming easier for 1-2 people. This is all info that would have helped me had I known!
Cheers,
Mocha
Last edited by a moderator:
. the buttons are smooth and its comfortable to use !