Random observation yo

[Patrol]

There's a difference between being grateful and asking for more. Everyone has equal rights in the US so why should they feel different than anyone else? In that case, they would not feel the need to publicly walk the streets in large numbers telling everyone they need more "equality".

But why shouldn't they feel different? What's the harm you see in them feeling different? What's the benefit you see in them abandoning the pride marches?

 

[Allybeboba]

But why shouldn't they feel different? What's the harm you see in them feeling different? What's the benefit you see in them abandoning the pride marches?

They could march in a walkathon for a cure for Cancer.
Hell, we have a Nation Gay Pride month. But no national Heterosexual Pride month. The educated working tax paying law abiding straight Caucasian male has the least amount of "rights". Period.... When you would think they would have the most or at least be on equal footing with females.

/cheers

 

[FrozenWill]

But why shouldn't they feel different? What's the harm you see in them feeling different? What's the benefit you see in them abandoning the pride marches?

They are not being oppressed so why would they feel the need to demand equal rights when everyone is equal? How does the parading benefit them or anyone else for that matter other than themselves? It seems a little selfish if you ask me, I would never think about parading for a straight pride event but some homosexuals feel that they are treated different when in fact no one is harming them. Also, refer to the Russian comment I made about homosexuals, they aren't welcome there and neither are they in China.

Ive been doing walking/running events to help cure diseases like cancer in the US but I just think it's not really beneficial to keep having these events that state someone's homosexuality because it proves nothing since everyone is equal.

 

[Patrol]

They are not being oppressed so why would they feel the need to demand equal rights when everyone is equal? How does the parading benefit them or anyone else for that matter other than themselves? It seems a little selfish if you ask me, I would never think about parading for a straight pride event but some homosexuals feel that they are treated different when in fact no one is harming them. Also, refer to the Russian comment I made about homosexuals, they aren't welcome there and neither are they in China.

I assume they see some benefit, otherwise why would they do it?

[MENTION=13421]Allybeboba[/MENTION], why not both?

I see you both looking at the situation on paper, this law, this stated freedom, etc. without looking at the stigmas which I assume homosexuals continue to find oppressive. The law doesn't really dictate the actions - only when someone thinks they'll be caught.

 

[FrozenWill]

I assume they see some benefit, otherwise why would they do it?

[MENTION=19976]Alleybeboba[/MENTION], why not both?

To benefit themselves to make them feel better, unless it goes to charity or something to benefit people actually in need.

 

[Yann]

They could march in a walkathon for a cure for Cancer.
Hell, we have a Nation Gay Pride month. But no national Heterosexual Pride month. The educated working tax paying law abiding straight Caucasian male has the least amount of "rights". Period.... When you would think they would have the most or at least be on equal footing with females.

/cheers

Spot on, 1,000%. I'd keep liking this, but I can't.

 

[FrozenWill]

Spot on, 1,000%. I'd keep liking this, but I can't.

Lol same here, won't let me like anymore but I would've liked that post also. Was spot on

 

[Mitch]

The LGBTQ march for the rights of all. It's not JUST about gay people. Also youre a fool if you don't think theres transgender phobia in North America. They also march to show how far they have come and to show respect for their "vets" who fought in the riots and to every single LGBTQ who had been killed when North America was a place oh hate. It's kinda like remembrance day.... but gay.

Were not asking you to understand. Just to fuck off and stop spewing that "straight parade" shit because its exactly that. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.


One last thing. Many citys that have parades have LGBTQ members from the army marching.

 

[Patrol]

[MENTION=21235]Tacowarrior[/MENTION]
[MENTION=21857]FrozenWill[/MENTION]
[MENTION=13421]Allybeboba[/MENTION]

As far as I can tell, rights are meant to counterbalance privilege, and what self-proclaimed oppressed people are fighting isn't fixed with the enactment of a law. In my mind, this hearkens back to abolishing slavery in the US - still afterwards, and even today, the racism that privileges some and oppresses others is what people fight, since a law doesn't eliminate racism.

 

[Patrol]

[MENTION=21857]FrozenWill[/MENTION] I hear you. Many people like the spotlight. They beckon the spotlight. They beg for it.
Take TI for example. How many people here are constantly calling attention to themselves each and every day. They want to be "special snowflakes".

When you're already the "special snowflake," you already have the attention to help fix whatever it is that you're asking for help to fix. When you're not so privileged, you have to fight for the attention to help fix whatever it is that you're asking for help to fix.

Better to not make an issue of anything I can't fix on my own.

 

[FrozenWill]

[MENTION=21235]Tacowarrior[/MENTION]
[MENTION=21857]FrozenWill[/MENTION]
[MENTION=13421]Allybeboba[/MENTION]

As far as I can tell, rights are meant to counterbalance privilege, and what self-proclaimed oppressed people are fighting isn't fixed with the enactment of a law. In my mind, this hearkens back to abolishing slavery in the US - still afterwards, and even today, the racism that privileges some and oppresses others is what people fight, since a law doesn't eliminate racism.

Every race went through slavery though, so it's kind of hard to just say that certain people have a greater privelage than others. That's like comparing oranges to apples

 

[FrozenWill]

When you're already the "special snowflake," you already have the attention to help fix whatever it is that you're asking for help to fix. When you're not so privileged, you have to fight for the attention to help fix whatever it is that you're asking for help to fix.

Better to not make an issue of anything I can't fix on my own.

No one is priveleged though... Can you elaborate on who is privileged then?

 

[Patrol]

No one is priveleged though... Can you elaborate on who is privileged then?

Depends on the circumstance, like a black guy going to a white guy for a job. This white guy's racist, so when a white applicant shows up, he is privileged over the black one. You could reverse the colors, but AFAIK, in the US the white guy is more often going to be the privileged one.

The law says both applicants are equal in terms of color, but the employer could still favor one based on racism, because a law doesn't eliminate racism. Applies to homophobia, sexism, etc.

 

[FrozenWill]

Depends on the circumstance, like a black guy going to a white guy for a job. This white guy's racist, so when a white applicant shows up, he is privileged over the black one. You could reverse the colors, but AFAIK, in the US the white guy is more often going to be the privileged one.

The law says both applicants are equal in terms of color, but the employer could still favor one based on racism, because a law doesn't eliminate racism. Applies to homophobia, sexism, etc.

Yes but they both have an opportunity to get the job or a different one. Like, if the guy hiring is racist, why even be bothered by it and just apply for another job because it's probably not the right one anyways ya know? Kinda like trying to work with someone you don't agree with, it's pretty difficult and would just cause further problems.

 

[Patrol]

Yes but they both have an opportunity to get the job or a different one. Like, if the guy hiring is racist, why even be bothered by it and just apply for another job because it's probably not the right one anyways ya know? Kinda like trying to work with someone you don't agree with, it's pretty difficult and would just cause further problems.

The point is that the privilege is there whether or not the employer makes his racism known. The white guy is privileged to get a job based on his color, while the black guy is oppressed and has to go elsewhere based on his color. Or, the black guy does get hired but gets treated poorly based on his color, which is something the white guy would have been privileged enough not to experience there. If the black guy wants to avoid racism, he has to do more work than the white guy. Sure, you can just say, "deal with it," but that doesn't make the privilege go away.

 

[Yann]

[MENTION=21235]Tacowarrior[/MENTION]
[MENTION=21857]FrozenWill[/MENTION]
[MENTION=13421]Allybeboba[/MENTION]

As far as I can tell, rights are meant to counterbalance privilege, and what self-proclaimed oppressed people are fighting isn't fixed with the enactment of a law. In my mind, this hearkens back to abolishing slavery in the US - still afterwards, and even today, the racism that privileges some and oppresses others is what people fight, since a law doesn't eliminate racism.

I think you're mentioning the wrong person here. I only replied to this thread once, because Ally was actually spot on several things that have happened to me personally. Anyways, good luck, have fun.

 

[FrozenWill]

The point is that the privilege is there whether or not the employer makes apparent his racism. Whoever is discriminated against has to go find another job while the privileged person already got hired. Or, the black guy gets hired, but while working there he gets treated poorly based on his color, which is something the white guy wouldn't have experienced in that position.

Yes but it goes both ways, so it's impossible to eliminate racism unless everyone is the same race... That's what I meant by brushing it off and finding a new job and not worrying about it because it happens to everyone.

Same thing with religion, sexuality etc, tons of religions and not all of them agree and there can be preferences people chose over others and it's always going to happen unfortunately, just gotta accept it and good things will come eventually down the road. Like if everyone had the same religion there will still be differences, there will always be differences that divide people unfortunately

 

[Patrol]

Yes but it goes both ways, so it's impossible to eliminate racism unless everyone is the same race... That's what I meant by brushing it off and finding a new job and not worrying about it because it happens to everyone.

Same thing with religion, sexuality etc, tons of religions and not all of them agree and there can be preferences people chose over others and it's always going to happen unfortunately, just gotta accept it and good things will come eventually down the road. Like if everyone had the same religion there will still be differences, there will always be differences that divide people unfortunately

I'm with you: "just deal with it" to the oppressed folks, though at least you don't have to fear oppression from me. I was just pointing out how there is difference in terms of privilege despite "equal rights."

 

[FrozenWill]

I'm with you: "just deal with it" to the oppressed folks, though at least you don't have to fear oppression from me. I was just pointing out how there is difference in terms of privilege despite "equal rights."

Everyone can be oppressed though, not just one race, is why I said it's better to let it be. Your talking as if only one race can be priveleged while the other is oppressed. Which is not true.

 

[Manaki]

Sup my niggas( ok no none of you are my niggas)so I just thought of this

When you look at the gay pride parade, it's just a sea of creepy white people

What is wrong with them? It can't be ALL the jews fault, they must have some self determination, some self will to do it on their own

Animal activists, furries, PETA, pedophiles, feminist SJWs, cuckolds, zoophiles, necrophiles, whatever mostly tend to be white (or jewish)as well. Im white(not nationalistic or anything btw) like I sometimes think for a moment then Im like white ppl smh y are they all white



btw im not homophobic or anything Idc what you are into this is just an observation

You are so retarded. This post shows how ill-educated you are. The stonewall movement was started by 'non-white' people.