Dagamela
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I laughed.
Quality of life?
- Thread starter willix
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I laughed.
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willix
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Not to argue with you, but in what universe is it likely that 10 randomly queued players, complete with under geared scrubs and insufficient heals, are going to out coordinate a group of players that are not only group queuing amongst friends and guildies, but using ventrilo/skype to coordinate efforts? Not to mention stacking multiple hunters/rogues/priests, which just happen to be the best 3 classes in the bracket.
Jôlinar
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Actually, I've been in that universe. I've been in a couple pugs with some randoms, beating7-10m elunes
Mass
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Thats because you are not a threat - Brown
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willix
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Not everyone is a pro just because they are in a guild, group queuing with guildies and friends. It's just frustrating when it's well known players who are especially skilled together.
I only reference those classes because they are usually what I see when horde are dominating. Example would be a team of 3 disc priests, 5 hunters, a lock, and a warrior.. Or 2 disc priests, 4 rogues, 3 mages, and a lock.
I don't expect people to avoid playing together, or avoid playing powerful classes. It's just irritating when all these factors are concentrated on one side consistently. It doesn't make the bracket fun for the other side. My general rule of thumb is to queue on whichever faction has the least amount of talent, trying to do my part in making games better for everyone. If I queue on a faction, and the game is largely one sided, I will queue on the other faction after that game.
I'm not trying to be the hero or anything, or trying to make anyone feel bad. It's just better for everyone if games aren't one sided. I'm willing to whatever it takes to make them better for everyone, am I alone?
Also, what does the tinker I play have to do with anything? I'm just trying to keep things neutral without naming names or flaming anyone.
Dodgeyou
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I agree, the buddy suckers group queing against pugs is somewhat annoying. I can live with it though as its just the nature of the game. Whats worse is the poor sportsmenship they have been showing by camping the GY too. Honestly, ur steam rolling a group as it is. GY camping doesnt make you look good to anyone but yourself. But really, thats all you care about anyway. What I do really enjoy is watching them que in on a pug on occasion, getting behind caps, and afking out because they dont have their buddies there to suck off and help them win. That makes it all worth it. They preach they want a challenge, but all they wanna do is faceroll. They cant handle an actual challenge, and losing, thats why they afk out.
Epichealtime
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So many people qq about friends playing together... If you play with someone you enjoy playing with get their real i.d. and stop whining. There is also a public vent so shut up about that too.
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thats what she said
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willix
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Why do you feel the need to turn this around on me? I'm not trying to QQ about anything. I'm simply asking what you think you're accomplishing by continuously queuing up into situations where the other team simply doesn't have a chance. I'm also asking why it has to be that way. Do you think that it would be possible to do more to make games better, from your end of things? Why does it have to be up to the other faction to make things better?
Please don't act as if we all have a long list of friends and guildies we can just throw into a group and queue with.
Very mature guy. Do you think that it's possible you may be a little too hostile?
Whose guild? I don't have a single tinker that is in a tink guild. I rarely ever group queue with the dozen or so 19s that are on my friends list. It's usually a rare that I even consider such a thing. I don't think it's necessary to group queue with people to make games good. I think it's better for everyone if we all solo queued. Things are more prone to be evenly distributed if you're not forcing the system to put people on the same team via group queuing with other skilled players.
I don't understand how you expect much from the other team.
Nems
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Willix
I pretty much agree with you; however, we are in the minority in this bracket. Only a handful of 19s want competitive games all the time. Frankly, the people playing this bracket are entertained by farming to upset the opposing group of people. I'm only just getting back into 19s from my 3-4 month sabbatical and it appears that things have only degraded more, many more group q's and continuous stream of undergeared players on Alliance.
All we can really do, as the minority, is hope that people get bored of facerolling and gy camping and hope they crave competition. However, since most of the major players only seek to upset people and see people rage on this site they will continue in their ways; so I will remain pessimistic.
People have tried to create guilds and make Alliance a stronger 19 faction. It doesn't work, because people in this bracket have no ability to solve issues they just faction change or quit; so people telling Alliance to "get better" is slightly moronic; especially since most of the players faction changed in the first place instead of "getting better". So good players are not working together to better compete against group q's, they then faction change when they're upset, they roll belf for better racials and group q with everyone they complained about.
Hopefully, I'll see you in the gulch.
- Nems
(Looking for New 19s for my Guild on Suramar - hit me up on PM or in game)
I pretty much agree with you; however, we are in the minority in this bracket. Only a handful of 19s want competitive games all the time. Frankly, the people playing this bracket are entertained by farming to upset the opposing group of people. I'm only just getting back into 19s from my 3-4 month sabbatical and it appears that things have only degraded more, many more group q's and continuous stream of undergeared players on Alliance.
All we can really do, as the minority, is hope that people get bored of facerolling and gy camping and hope they crave competition. However, since most of the major players only seek to upset people and see people rage on this site they will continue in their ways; so I will remain pessimistic.
People have tried to create guilds and make Alliance a stronger 19 faction. It doesn't work, because people in this bracket have no ability to solve issues they just faction change or quit; so people telling Alliance to "get better" is slightly moronic; especially since most of the players faction changed in the first place instead of "getting better". So good players are not working together to better compete against group q's, they then faction change when they're upset, they roll belf for better racials and group q with everyone they complained about.
Hopefully, I'll see you in the gulch.
- Nems
(Looking for New 19s for my Guild on Suramar - hit me up on PM or in game)
