Problem with a shadowfang deal

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actually.. i did some detective work and found out a lot more about him.. Obviously im not sharing this with you guys but i guess if i tried i could find him but he lives no where near me..
 
For what it's worth:

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thank you mocha for that amazing diagram.. He has told me he refuses to post in this thread anymore.. hmmm i wonder why? but will still pm me.. but he still claims he did not photoshop the screenshot and mocha just proved him wrong..
 
For Starters. If i had your money.. youd have recieved what you payed for.. I did not.. Im a pretty straight forward guy.. If I was going to scam a punk ass kid i would have done it for ALOT more than 90 bucks..

Claiming i photoshopped a screen shot amuses me.. But i dont care to plead my case (which will progress to 90% of TI that they belive im a scammer. Blow me).. The ragging and immaturity you continue to show.. is hilarious..

Being ridiculous and spamming me for 3 weeks was the whole reason youve been ignored until now.. 10-15 messages every 10 minutes on wow... 5-6 every night on TI.. Meh I dont really Care..

Youve done a little research on me? hahahahaha
Ill be glad to give you any information you may need to contact me. lol!


Once again, ill say. if i had recieved your $90.00 You would have a shadowfang. or your $90.00 back.. But im not going to spend my time Argueing and swapping SS with people i dont know, and most i dont care about...

@Mocha Are you still butthurt that everyone who was decent some better than others.. has left your guild? Dont worry. remember your Dream team of all your old friends has promised you theyll be back in MoP... Keep dreaming.. They tell you they will be back so youll leave them a lone.


If youd like to call me a scammer! so be it Guys and Gals.. Cya in the Gultch.
 
I have read all 5 pages and saw all views for all people who have posted.

I belive that Kreuzer has edited the post. The font is different.

Stealthcnt, can you please click on the details of the transaction and ss it and post of twink info, im carious to see what it says specificaly about the completed transaction.

I have done many paypal transactions and it looks to me he has scammed you at this point.

P.S: I just checked my previous paypal transactions and the font of the transaction that Kreuzer made is not the same as what it shows with my paypal transactions.
 
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For Starters. If i had your money.. youd have recieved what you payed for.. I did not.. Im a pretty straight forward guy.. If I was going to scam a punk ass kid i would have done it for ALOT more than 90 bucks..

Claiming i photoshopped a screen shot amuses me.. But i dont care to plead my case (which will progress to 90% of TI that they belive im a scammer. Blow me).. The ragging and immaturity you continue to show.. is hilarious..

Being ridiculous and spamming me for 3 weeks was the whole reason youve been ignored until now.. 10-15 messages every 10 minutes on wow... 5-6 every night on TI.. Meh I dont really Care..

Youve done a little research on me? hahahahaha
Ill be glad to give you any information you may need to contact me. lol!


Once again, ill say. if i had recieved your $90.00 You would have a shadowfang. or your $90.00 back.. But im not going to spend my time Argueing and swapping SS with people i dont know, and most i dont care about...

@Mocha Are you still butthurt that everyone who was decent some better than others.. has left your guild? Dont worry. remember your Dream team of all your old friends has promised you theyll be back in MoP... Keep dreaming.. They tell you they will be back so youll leave them a lone.


If youd like to call me a scammer! so be it Guys and Gals.. Cya in the Gultch.

scammer
 
@Mocha Are you still butthurt that everyone who was decent some better than others.. has left your guild? Dont worry. remember your Dream team of all your old friends has promised you theyll be back in MoP... Keep dreaming.. They tell you they will be back so youll leave them a lone.

<Mayhem> has nothing to do with this thread. I would also like to point out that in no way did I say anything about anyone being a scammer, I simply posted my observations that I noticed purely from curiosity and nothing more.

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This is in no way a flame war thread so I encourage everyone to not voice their messages in directly offensive ways before I have no choice but to lock this thread.
 
I have read all 5 pages and saw all views for all people who have posted.

I belive that Kreuzer has edited the post. The font is different.

Stealthcnt, can you please click on the details of the transaction and ss it and post of twink info, im carious to see what it says specificaly about the completed transaction.

I have done many paypal transactions and it looks to me he has scammed you at this point.

P.S: I just checked my previous paypal transactions and the font of the transaction that Kreuzer made is not the same as what it shows with my paypal transactions.


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this is the original screenshot i posted before i blacked out his name because i was told that i was not allowed to post character name or personal info. none of this matters anymore since he joined the thread.

kreuzer, i did not send you 10-15 messages in game every 10 minutes. I sent you 1 every half hour because you said that you wuold have the money in a few min at most an hour. if you answered me the first time if you had gotten the money or not i wouldn't have to message you again. i have 90 fucking dollars on the line if i was a seller i would be checking paypal every 5 minutes to see if i had gotten someone elses money yet. the most i messaged you on twinkinfo was 2 per day. I even later waited one week because you kept complaining about it.

First, please answer why you did not even let me know that you no longer had the shadowfang. When i talked to mocha, he told me that you got rid of it days ago. This was over a week ago when i first contacted mocha.

Next, take another hard look at mochas post with the diagram. now explain to me why your screenshot wasn't photoshopped.

Like i said in my private message, exact quote, if you are going to say that you havent received the money, i would like another screenshot of your paypal account in the details link like my original screenshot and i would also like you to have 2 websites open. one obviously of your paypal account and another of Today's Date because this shows the date and you cant change it. and make sure the windows dont overlap over any text, i guess some of the days on the websites calendar can be overlapped but the "today's date" can't. if you can't do this or ignore me, then it is clear that you scammed me.

I am also wondering why you changed your signature slightly. I mentioned to you in the private message that since your signature was "If you ain't a gator! you must be gator bait!" this is a dead give away. Your signature is now "If you ain't a Gator! You're Gator bait!" does this change really accomplish anything?

By the way, livingforce, this is uraflamer in case you didn't know.. i love you
 
paypal is a very legit company.
PayPal is a joke. Their support is a joke. Their policies are a joke. They love to fuck people in the ass on a daily basis. There is no alternative so you're basically fucked one way or another. It's only a matter of time. They're the only scammers here.
 
I'm gonna vouch for Nudge (Kreuzer) because he's really a good guy and has helped a ton of people. Also I don't know about you guys but if I wanted to scam someone with a photoshopped SS it's common knowledge not to post it on the internet where the entire world could see it...Had he posted it via PM, it would've been another story.

This started out to be a legit inquiry on trying to fix a problem but sadly this has been twisted and warped (by the community) and now Stealthcnt believes he was scammed. I don't hold much of anything with you guys but I'd like to say that Nudge is not that kind of guy.
 
LS FTW leaders have already been contacted by me.. If they feel its in the best for their guild ill drop without hesitation.. Dont wanna cause any problems for anyone else in their guild.

@Air Thanks Buddy. Love You too! The comments from someone ive never talked to, and hardly every played with touch me deeply. and being Banned from TI?. OH KNOW WHAT WOULD I DO?? This community is just so awesome and Helpful. 75% of every thread says the same thing over and over. and the threads that dont get locked.

@Stealth You are trying to notice way to many things that its gone to your head.. My Signature has not changed. Its been the same since i made my TI account. and will stay the Same.

@Iaccidentallytwink Youre right paypal is not Legit and not the Biggest online Community for Transferring Online money for various things.

@Sneaky Whatup
 
If youre IRL friends with any of the people who twink in 19s just let them directly see your paypal transaction info. If theyre reputable people who wont automatically 'side with a friend just cuz' then they could help verify your story. The more people that could see the transaction the better obviously
 
So it looks like there hasn't even been an attempted explanation of the edited screenshot?
 
I think the moral of the story is, don't use real money to buy gear.

Here is some tips on getting shadowfang.

1. Use The Undermine Journal. This website is a database witch shows all items on every server, greatly increasing the
chances of finding shadowfang and at a bargain price.

2.When you have found your shadowfang use your hard earned cash to sever transfer (with your main because of gold cap) and then transfer back.

If you don't have enough gold to buy shadowfang then use a FREE gold grinding guide.

if you buy a shadowfang for real money (not recommended), then ask if you can view the weapon in game, tell them to put the wepon in the not to be traded slot in the bottom left hand corner of the trade box , if they refuse to do so WALK AWAY FROM THE SALE.

When I was trying to get shadowfang, i could not count the amount of people who where trying to scam me. Yo gotta think smart and make sure the sale is
absolutely legit.

On a side note Shadowfang is likely to loose its BiS status in MoP which is only a few months away, so i suggest holding back on SF buying until we know for sure that it is still the best 19 rouge wep.
 
LS FTW leaders have already been contacted by me.. If they feel its in the best for their guild ill drop without hesitation.. Dont wanna cause any problems for anyone else in their guild.

@Air Thanks Buddy. Love You too! The comments from someone ive never talked to, and hardly every played with touch me deeply. and being Banned from TI?. OH KNOW WHAT WOULD I DO?? This community is just so awesome and Helpful. 75% of every thread says the same thing over and over. and the threads that dont get locked.

@Stealth You are trying to notice way to many things that its gone to your head.. My Signature has not changed. Its been the same since i made my TI account. and will stay the Same.

@Iaccidentallytwink Youre right paypal is not Legit and not the Biggest online Community for Transferring Online money for various things.

@Sneaky Whatup


if you insist on saying that you didnt scam me, then like i have said multiple please upload another screenshot with you clicking the details link and on that page. Have that window open and also have another window open with Today's Date because you can't mess with the date like you did in your original one. Until you do this, you have provided no proof that you didn't scam me.

Kreuzer can you please please please explain the photoshopped screenshot. The font was different, placement of the words etc. Mocha's post proves this. So far all you have said is that it wasn't photoshopped and not explained anything.
 
i would honestly only buy from someone i know well or someone with a good reputation within the 19 community when it comes to irl cash/large amounts of gold.
 
If you ever get your money back and still want to buy a shadowfang I guess I can sell you one for a similar price. PM me if interested, never had a problem with all bought/sold items.
 
i would honestly only buy from someone i know well or someone with a good reputation within the 19 community when it comes to irl cash/large amounts of gold.

actually he is a donator so i would understand op trusting him
 
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