Poll: Is Punishment or Reward More Effective?

[Mvq]

If you voted Positive Feedback then I'd suggest you watch this video:

 

[Pizza]

Positive and negative feedback can both be effective. It all depends on the person delivering and receiving the feedback and the environment and circumstance in which the feedback is being given.

 

[Sketchbag]

That coin he's flipping is called a "toonie" lol

 

[Cigarette]

If you voted Positive Feedback then I'd suggest you watch this video:

Probably 3/4 of that video was him explaining and giving random examples of regression to the mean, lol

His opinion by the end , the tl;dr if you will, is basically that all the case studies revolving around the differences between positive and negative feedback are flawed and are caused by regression to the mean rather than the feedback itself. I chuckled at the end when he said that positive feedback may work out better in the long run, although all of his given statistics suggested otherwise.

Dude is GREAT at saying very little with lots of words.



imo healthy feedback in general requires both positive and negative feedback, although perhaps a more praise-in-public and criticize-in-private approach. negative feedback(properly given, this would probably be better termed as constructive criticism) is important if you want your subject to improve in areas where he is lacking, but when you give someone negative feedback in public, he's going to receive a negative stigma in his peers' eyes that won't go away easily, whereas if you give that same feedback in private, assuming he's willing to fix his problems he's going to work harder to improve without the added baggage of social degradation.


Of course, the more egotistical the subject, the less the praise-in-public criticize-in-private approach is going to work.

 

[Trialdruid]

Positive and negative feedback can both be effective. It all depends on the person delivering and receiving the feedback and the environment and circumstance in which the feedback is being given.

imo healthy feedback in general requires both positive and negative feedback, although perhaps a more praise-in-public and criticize-in-private approach. negative feedback(properly given, this would probably be better termed as constructive criticism) is important if you want your subject to improve in areas where he is lacking, but when you give someone negative feedback in public, he's going to receive a negative stigma in his peers' eyes that won't go away easily, whereas if you give that same feedback in private, assuming he's willing to fix his problems he's going to work harder to improve without the added baggage of social degradation.

I wish twinkinfo had similar approach to discussing topics like these two people are having

 

[Hurrx]

hey everybody! trialdruid told me to come here and put some guy called mvq in the dumpster, how do i quote someone on this new website?

 

[bigmoran]

i <3 when kancer chokes me

 

[Mvq]

Probably 3/4 of that video was him explaining and giving random examples of regression to the mean, lol

His opinion by the end , the tl;dr if you will, is basically that all the case studies revolving around the differences between positive and negative feedback are flawed and are caused by regression to the mean rather than the feedback itself. I chuckled at the end when he said that positive feedback may work out better in the long run, although all of his given statistics suggested otherwise.

Dude is GREAT at saying very little with lots of words.



imo healthy feedback in general requires both positive and negative feedback, although perhaps a more praise-in-public and criticize-in-private approach. negative feedback(properly given, this would probably be better termed as constructive criticism) is important if you want your subject to improve in areas where he is lacking, but when you give someone negative feedback in public, he's going to receive a negative stigma in his peers' eyes that won't go away easily, whereas if you give that same feedback in private, assuming he's willing to fix his problems he's going to work harder to improve without the added baggage of social degradation.


Of course, the more egotistical the subject, the less the praise-in-public criticize-in-private approach is going to work.

He didn't say that positive feedback is better in the long run. He said "If you stay positive, it may work out in the long run." - Regardless of that, I agree with you.

 

[Conq]

I think reward is best and more likely to get a positive response, but there is no doubt that sometimes a abalance of the two is best. I find consistent negativity will breed negative emotions in both parties and take away from the integrity of whatever is trying to be accomished.

 

[Axione]

Who cares?

 

[Srs]

Good cop and bad cop work best together, as a team, in interrogations. A mix of both carrot and stick for horse racing. And pain and pleasure for dominatrixes.

But they are actually two sides of the same coin. Simplifying the spectrum of human behavior and response is forcing a false dichotomy.

 

[Turtle]

whats up with all these polls coming from you man
is this to distract people from your jump macro fails and bring out a new image

honestly no one cares about either

 

[Idiot]

My dad used to whip me bare ass, with a switch, for no good reason. Now I find myself raising my hand to my wife whenever she gets on my nerves. I don't ever hit her, though. It's more like a threat, I guess. I've grown to resent and hate my father, and I don't believe a kid should be punished to that degree. An 18-20-year-old grown ass man, I don't know, you're still kind of a kid, actually, they probably need 70/30 in favor of getting punished.

 

[Stabilt]

Its a whole different thing lol, idk about other niggas on this site but i play sports on a very high level (for my age) and u cant improve from positive feedback alone..

It works on a single play/sequence but not for a whole game etc.. But then again u should have a idea whats wrong already...

Then again maybe its different for nerds xd

 

[barb]

Carebear fukbois react better to positive feedback because they tend to tune out and ignore anything "negative" & Toxic idits react better to negative feedback because positive feedback is often assumed to be sarcastic or insincere.



useless thread created by a useless moron

negative feedback breeds the absolute best, Look at @Flamer for example

 

[Hippiechic]

I guess in my opinion, you'll always remember the negative outcome more than the positive.

 

[Allybeboba]

The A-10 was never used by the Israelis.

This subject has been studied for centuries. Too many variables for such a black and white answer.

I also think some of you may be mixing up the meanings of "feedback" and "reinforcement".
Feedback, as presented here, is an evaluation of how you are doing. That much is indicated by all the "tests".
Whereas reinforcement is something that will change the occurrence of an action.
With that said, there are four types of reinforcement.
Positive - ex: a "treat" is given.
Negative - ex: someone "nagging"(the negative). You to do something. When you do it, the nagging stops. You learn to do it before the "nagging" begins. Remember that next time Mommy/wifey-poo tells you to take out the trash! You might get a "treat" if you do it before the "nagging" begins.
Punishment - ex: corporal punishment
Extinction- ex: a child's favorite toy is taken away.

Positive reinforcement is the most powerful. Punishment can also invoke other negative responses such as anger and resentment.

 

[Snack]

Negative feedback can be useful, although I wouldn't call it 'negative feedback'. But just because you're telling someone that they did something wrong, doesn't mean that you have to be disrespectful.

 

[Mvq]

Negative feedback can be useful, although I wouldn't call it 'negative feedback'. But just because you're telling someone that they did something wrong, doesn't mean that you have to be disrespectful.

Telling someone they did something wrong is negative feedback, as it is indeed feedback and it is indeed negative.

 

[Snack]

Telling someone they did something wrong is negative feedback, as it is indeed feedback and it is indeed negative.

No that is just feedback. Feedback is the evaluation of a persons actions. If the actions were wrong, the feedback will be 'what you did was wrong/bad'. There are however many different ways to do this in respectful manner.