Patch 6.0: Bringing 70s back to life? (video)

Shinela

Shinela

Not your everyday tank
I'm unsure wether or not the gems will remain the same, because as you've said as well, gems add way too much right now, a empty chestpiece with 3 sockets would be better than a chestpiece with epic stats. That's something I would definitely call a flaw and the fact that some item level 100 items have been scaled in favor of BiS item level 156 items, they can actually be better. I've noticed T4 has better stats than T6 for example.

Also the 2000 --> 1650 from the shield is simply the tooltip not being adjusted yet, as far as I know. I have the old Zul Aman trinket, the tooltip says 1635 or something and it does add 1635 directly, down from it giving 2500 armor on live. I currently don't like the shape it's in, because if I pop it I can burst someone down in a duel with one shield slam + revenge.

I've done Karazhan on 70 as prot warrior, could kill some mobs alone but required a healer for most, we did 2-man the boss (Huntsman) quite easilty, this was on beta. Also when I played on beta, it also said that the abilities of mobs haven't been scaled down yet, I'm not sure if this is also the case on PTR.
 
Stale said:
I'm unsure wether or not the gems will remain the same, because as you've said as well, gems add way too much right now, a empty chestpiece with 3 sockets would be better than a chestpiece with epic stats. That's something I would definitely call a flaw and the fact that some item level 100 items have been scaled in favor of BiS item level 156 items, they can actually be better. I've noticed T4 has better stats than T6 for example.

Also the 2000 --> 1650 from the shield is simply the tooltip not being adjusted yet, as far as I know. I have the old Zul Aman trinket, the tooltip says 1635 or something and it does add 1635 directly, down from it giving 2500 armor on live. I currently don't like the shape it's in, because if I pop it I can burst someone down in a duel with one shield slam + revenge.

I've done Karazhan on 70 as prot warrior, could kill some mobs alone but required a healer for most, we did 2-man the boss (Huntsman) quite easilty, this was on beta. Also when I played on beta, it also said that the abilities of mobs haven't been scaled down yet, I'm not sure if this is also the case on PTR.
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- Indeed so, some T4 are better than T6. But your words are true, I really hope they're squishing it down further because this is ridiculous.

- As far as I knew, bonus armour hadn't been squished yet. Look at any item from questing in draenor, such as Warsong Wolfrider's Gorget - Item - World of Warcraft it has 48 bonus armour at ilevel 591. There are unsquished level 70 items with 100+ bonus armour. I expect this to become squished even further. At least, I sincerely hope so. (Thank you Sean Treck for placing this comparison)

- As far as I knew, I don't think they meant scaled down, but up, because mob damage is increased by 80% on players, not decreased. This being the reason why player health increased so much.
 
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2 things:
1) Since I can't seem to message you on youtube, are you interested in running some 70 content on the PTR since EU/US can join forces and factions don't matter?
2) A bonus armor squish happened but it was seemingly random and not even close to enough. Something like only 37.5%? It needs to be closer to 95% to be in line with the new gear model.
 
I'm insrtalling the PTR now, will compare it to beta and see if there's any difference.

Some updates regarding BiS gear - The gear from the JP Vendor in Shattrath seems to contain most of the now BiS gear, the vendor is called G'eras.

On the beta there's no way to get JP and the items are instead sold for gold, not sure how that'll be on live.
 
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strec021 said:
2 things:
1) Since I can't seem to message you on youtube, are you interested in running some 70 content on the PTR since EU/US can join forces and factions don't matter?
2) A bonus armor squish happened but it was seemingly random and not even close to enough. Something like only 37.5%? It needs to be closer to 95% to be in line with the new gear model.
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1) Definitely up for this. Add me: "Rexaus#2459"

2) I figured as such
 
Stale said:
I'm insrtalling the PTR now, will compare it to beta and see if there's any difference.

Some updates regarding BiS gear - The gear from the JP Vendor in Shattrath seems to contain most of the now BiS gear, the vendor is called G'eras.

On the beta there's no way to get JP and the items are instead sold for gold, not sure how that'll be on live.
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Having my fair doubt about this considering they do lack gem slots, don't they? Hmm.. I'll have a butchers
 
Check em out, they have sockets (belt even has two instead of one from T6 Onslaught (which now has Agility?!?!?!?!).

Helm also has 3 sockets and with meta's being nerfed, might be better to get 3x normal, though the 3% increased crit damage is still nice.
 
Would you mind "recruiting" within your ranks to maybe get enough for a Karazhan run? I have 1 friend, possible 2 who would come a long with that (tank, heals, an dps among us).
 
strec021 said:
Would you mind "recruiting" within your ranks to maybe get enough for a Karazhan run? I have 1 friend, possible 2 who would come a long with that (tank, heals, an dps among us).
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I'd love to, but we'd have to find a date for when to, and hope for the servers not to be down. Also hope for me to be able to copy my "actual" character over, not an old version of my twink :p And I know three to four who can join already. One tank, one healer, one dps
 
I would definitely like to do it this weekend, if not this evening. I would like to at least have a roster of interest copied to the PTR and ready to go for when we decide to raid. More immediately though, I would love to run some heroics in 110 gear or so. I'll add you when the maintenance is over.
 
On beta we did Karazhan's first few bosses with just two people, but either way I'd be up for it this weekend (or this evening).

Either on PTR or on Beta, doesn't matter. And also all roles, since I still have my characters on PTR from last time.
 
Karazhan would be purposefully self-nerfed, i.e. no 162 item level in there. Probably just take off accessories to reach 110 itemlevel. Also, Shinela could you add my PTR battle tag of Cromer#1990? I haven't seen a response to the requests I sent earlier this week.
 
strec021 said:
Karazhan would be purposefully self-nerfed, i.e. no 162 item level in there. Probably just take off accessories to reach 110 itemlevel. Also, Shinela could you add my PTR battle tag of Cromer#1990? I haven't seen a response to the requests I sent earlier this week.
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I would but I've been unable to log in the PTR ever since, oddly enough :/ I do believe I was able to log in for.. 5 minutes? I did add you in this time
 
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