Paladin with Shadowfang, worth it?
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Maerduk
OG
gr1pp said:
A subpar build is only a subpar build behind the hands of someone that has no idea how to play the class... People play the easiest available builds, like I'm assuming you do, because they want to play ez-mode and not actually take the time to master the class or any skill involved while playing it. That's how "subpar" builds get rated lower, because sheep like you follow the flock...
Secondly it wasn't constructive to the original question he asked, he didn't want an answer that was essentially "lolol you scrub don't play that gtfo" seems a little childish doesn't it?
Maerduk
OG
gr1pp said:
You failed to regard the fact that I put "subpar" build in quotations. A "subpar" build in that sense will fall behind because most people won't want to play it because it's not ez mode enough for their liking. The general populace of the game will choose the build that eases the amount of frustration or playing skill so they can breeze through with having to do a minimal amount of work. It may be considered subpar, but if someone wants to play it and make it workable for what they enjoy, then they can do so.
I see you havent quite caught up with the times yet gr1pp 
AP/Str based paladins can be very hard to kill and put out some sweet damage
AP/Str based paladins can be very hard to kill and put out some sweet damage
Diiesel
OG
gr1pp said:
AP is added to your judgement dmg and also affects your weapon swings, you have no idea what your talking about. If he went 2'her and protection he could be very effective dmg wise. you obviously have a flame problem, and if your not part of a sulution then your part of a problem, take it somewhere else, not on these threads.
Coolzo
the Insane
I second everything for 19 "retadins" with a 5/5/0 build. I specced this with nowhere near max gear, and although survivability was relatively low, I could easily cause 500+ damage in one global cooldown with hammer+judgment. They also have the advantage of being very mobile due to Hand of Freedom.
Lloydganks
OG
ummm, there's absolutely nothing wrong with going for an offensively-geared paladin at 19. they are certainly better than 19 holy pallies, which are so vastly inferior to priests and shaman at 19 for healing that they're barely worth mentioning.
in fact, i have a feeling that "ret" pallies at 19 could be a very very good class - it's just that no good players have all-out tested it yet.
edit: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sV0bZc seems extremely good for 19 arenas.
in fact, i have a feeling that "ret" pallies at 19 could be a very very good class - it's just that no good players have all-out tested it yet.
edit: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sV0bZc seems extremely good for 19 arenas.
Maerduk
OG
I don't play nearly as much as other people play the 19 bracket, at least not anymore, but whenever I get bored and hop on my 19 pally I can own it up pretty hard, in both damage, flag runs, and flag returning. I had someone awhile back whisp me when BC was first introduced and BE pallies were starting to pop up everywhere, most of them being clueless at the time as they were new to the class, anyway I got whisped as to how I was doing so well in a bg and not being fully twinked, I simply replied because I had been doing it for years on ally side. If you know how to play the class I think "retadin" at 19 could work very effectively and I've seen it in action personally.
Coolzo
the Insane
Duckhunt said:Which just got nerfed by almost half.
When you say 'just' got nerfed, how soon you talking? 'cause I 'just' did that spec about 1.5 months ago, and I managed ~250 +/- crits with judgements and a Smite's Mighty Hammer, added for the combined ~500. OFC my spells would be hitting for a little less due to losing 35 SP from leggings, but in the end I would still cause a decent amount of burst.
Coolzo
the Insane
Maerduk said:Lol he meant HoF getting nerfed.
Ah, I see, my bad. By putting "halved" I could've sworn he meant the damage.
Although that does not by any means make it nonviable, atleast they still have it :/ And taking 2 points out of Seals of the Pure to get Guardian's Favor isn't to bad.