EU+US OP Classes

[Hobbes]

I don't get the hype over 10 discs. I 1v1d a priest from Xpoff Nation this morning in Wsg and he dropped dead pretty quickly. Didnt take long for his ego to get in the way as he /lold me a few times after.

Hahaha I used to bg with you back in MOP, when we used to practice jumps, you on your druid me on my hunter.

Regarding priests it seems they're the most OP class both in dps and heals.
Boomys got heals removed and resto doesnt seems sub-par
Resto shamys are decent.
Dps wise shadow does massive dmg with its drain and dots.

 

[Nodoka]

Make one for yourself and you'll see

Why play a boring class?

 

[DeLindsay]

I don't get the hype over 10 discs. I 1v1d a priest from Xpoff Nation this morning in Wsg and he dropped dead pretty quickly. Didnt take long for his ego to get in the way as he /lold me a few times after.

With your Warrior? If so that Priest was bad, REALLY bad if they were Disc or even Shadow, Holy I can't say though as it's terribad on paper after the changes. Warriors were like gnats to my Priest and I got changed to Shadow for the AB I've done so far, same with Hunters, Boomkins and Mages. It literally took 4-5+ to drop me and even then it wasn't "pretty quick", I was able to get 2-3 PWS's or more up in that time (4.33s CD) while killing 1-2 of them in the process.

 

[shanker]

blizzard's PVP template system is not working. players are not not equalized, they are scaled under MOP old patch 5.3 -5.4 system based on player level instead of gear level, low level players are scaled up. the effect is still the same. there are issues in other brackets as well, but less talked about and noticed than 10-19 due to less activity.

blizzard finally dehomogenized classes, so no more bal-feral druids with bottomless rejuvs that never OOM, no more bal-res druid going into cat and having more agility than a feral, and ability to use aoe bleed, shred boosted by bleed and ferocious bite. since CATA too much healing was boosted and hybrids became better healers than in the original game and two previous expacs

-discos & aff-locks some how fell thru the cracks, one has too much DPS as a healer, other too much healing as a DPS.
-res druids have some good damage too. if you played a bal since CATA, imo this would be your class if you crutched on the healing a boomkin had. i saw a 1 vs 1 fight in a bg against a 10 disco, nether could kill the other till a rogue popped,
-ferals still wipe players fast, including discos engaged in fights, who don't have psyhic scream yet
-assa/out rogues same as feral, really good if they use kick

hunters, bal druid good damage when on the better disco/aff lock teams


at level 100 seeing same thing even worse. even though players are capped at 100 right now, the bracket does have scaling 100-109...yes. and what we see at 10-19 is occurring there to some degree. disco and aff,s are insane, aff locks are many times top damagers, and right behind healers in damage, and discos at times behind aff locks in damage. there is QQ in the BGs, about the two classes at 100.

due to the 100-109 scaling....PVP templates not working at 100 either in reguards to blizzards claim of there only being a 3-5% difference between a max geared player and a fresh max player. because of the hidden 100-109 scaling, a 100 in top PVP or 740+ pve gear are kings vs fresh 100's. a player in 655-700 gear can barely dent you

 

[Hobbes]

blizzard's PVP template system is not working. players are not not equalized, they are scaled under MOP old patch 5.3 -5.4 system based on player level instead of gear level, low level players are scaled up. the effect is still the same. there are issues in other brackets as well, but less talked about and noticed than 10-19 due to less activity.

blizzard finally dehomogenized classes, so no more bal-feral druids with bottomless rejuvs that never OOM, no more bal-res druid going into cat and having more agility than a feral, and ability to use aoe bleed, shred boosted by bleed and ferocious bite. since CATA too much healing was boosted and hybrids became better healers than in the original game and two previous expacs

-discos & aff-locks some how fell thru the cracks, one has too much DPS as a healer, other too much healing as a DPS.
-res druids have some good damage too. if you played a bal since CATA, imo this would be your class if you crutched on the healing a boomkin had. i saw a 1 vs 1 fight in a bg against a 10 disco, nether could kill the other till a rogue popped,
-ferals still wipe players fast, including discos engaged in fights, who don't have psyhic scream yet
-assa/out rogues same as feral, really good if they use kick

hunters, bal druid good damage when on the better disco/aff lock teams


at level 100 seeing same thing even worse. even though players are capped at 100 right now, the bracket does have scaling 100-109...yes. and what we see at 10-19 is occurring there to some degree. disco and aff,s are insane, aff locks are many times top damagers, and right behind healers in damage, and discos at times behind aff locks in damage. there is QQ in the BGs, about the two classes at 100.

due to the 100-109 scaling....PVP templates not working at 100 either in reguards to blizzards claim of there only being a 3-5% difference between a max geared player and a fresh max player. because of the hidden 100-109 scaling, a 100 in top PVP or 740+ pve gear are kings vs fresh 100's. a player in 655-700 gear can barely dent you

Your saying two things.

One that getting top gear in lower levels isn't really worth it while at the same time you can't survive at 100s without sufficient armor.

Second Blizzard has again messed up with OP classes, more prominent in the lvling brackets.

Well it is pre-patch and maybe if we flood blizzards message boards with our problems, they might even take a look into it.

Obviously blizzard will do everything it can to hold on to the players from Warcraft Movie and old timers popping in to check out Legion.

 

[shanker]

Your saying two things.

One that getting top gear in lower levels isn't really worth it while at the same time you can't survive at 100s without sufficient armor.

Second Blizzard has again messed up with OP classes, more prominent in the lvling brackets.

Well it is pre-patch and maybe if we flood blizzards message boards with our problems, they might even take a look into it.

Obviously blizzard will do everything it can to hold on to the players from Warcraft Movie and old timers popping in to check out Legion.

1. due to the brackets at all levels not being truly templated (equalized) a level 19 priest all ilvl bis, will still be good, but vs a 10 priest with all BIS the imbal becomes obvious. players with disco priest (non-intention rollers) were asking in some of the random 10-19 BGs i was in, were asking/saying things like WTF? as i go up in level i'm dying more and more, and level 10 priest just killed me

2. hybrid were mostly dealt with in the legion expac except disco priests, but they did say they wanted them to fill DPS roles, problem is they have all the damage, absorption, and healing they have had since WOTLK other than new talents trees, and minor changes they are still the same class.

aff lock is healing is back to what it was back in BC and WOTLK when players dumped into 2 or more talents tree....creating what was the SL/SL lock, they were insane and hard to kill due to all the healing took blizz many nerfs, wipe of the old talent system and after CATA to kill the spec. well it's back, right now, you want the best hunter or shadow priest like it was before, roll a aff lock

blizz needs to do a crit and haste % split on those 2 classes

like disco at 10 has like a 51% crit for everything, they may need to adjust in PVP to something like 31% crit healing 20% dmg or vice versa depending on if they consider a disco as a healer or DPS, blizz has put out conflicting info

not sure if posting this on WOW forums it truly gets read, if you look at WOD, devs in interviews, forums, twitter said conflicting things and obviously weren't on the same page or sharing info. devs hid on twitter where this post and my other above would not fit. now for legion they will be on FB too.

 

[Swoops]

blizzard's PVP template system is not working. players are not not equalized, they are scaled under MOP old patch 5.3 -5.4 system based on player level instead of gear level, low level players are scaled up. the effect is still the same.

This is wrong. There is no level scaling whatsoever in BGs. 10s are strong because they keep the secondary stat scaling you get at that level. They have the same stat template as 19s, the only differences are the base stats gained as you level and the percentages they get out of the flat secondary stats.

at level 100 seeing same thing even worse. even though players are capped at 100 right now, the bracket does have scaling 100-109...yes. and what we see at 10-19 is occurring there to some degree. disco and aff,s are insane, aff locks are many times top damagers, and right behind healers in damage, and discos at times behind aff locks in damage. there is QQ in the BGs, about the two classes at 100.

due to the 100-109 scaling....PVP templates not working at 100 either in reguards to blizzards claim of there only being a 3-5% difference between a max geared player and a fresh max player. because of the hidden 100-109 scaling, a 100 in top PVP or 740+ pve gear are kings vs fresh 100's. a player in 655-700 gear can barely dent you

100's don't have level scaling either, and they're all bumped up to an item level of 740. There's no significant gear difference there.

It's probably turned off because of level 100 to be honest. Doesn't make sense to make them all fight as 109s (I think that happened for a bit in WoD prepatch before they reverted it), so hopefully they'll flip the switch on level scaling when Legion goes live.

 

[shanker]

i have six 100's.....BGs are much like what i have seen in 10-19. team with most aff-locks and discos rule, BG stats at the end almost look the same as what i see in 10-19s. in legion 100-109 is a bracket, players are level capped right now 100 capped but i believe the same scaling you see at 10-19 is in effect even though all players are at 100. the same imbal is at 100.

any class duel a aff lock is not the same as in a BG in 1 vs 1 which does happen vs a aff lock. there is some jacked up scaling in BGs right now even at 100

at 100 i do see some other classes doing real well such as fury wars, and unholy dks, but they are not setting the tone like the aff lock and disco