MoP BoAs

[shanker]

Burnished Warden Staff - Item - World of Warcraft

New Druid weapon.

think they made this BOA with monks in mind. yeah it would work for druids, but wouldn't be able to add the +4 damage weighted stones to it

as for the leggings, what are the requirements for those? guild level, cost, perk?

 

[Terrlol]

think they made this BOA with monks in mind. yeah it would work for druids, but wouldn't be able to add the +4 damage weighted stones to it

as for the leggings, what are the requirements for those? guild level, cost, perk?

Atm they are free, and u don't even need a guild to pick em up at the guild vendor thingy.

So it's impossible to say atm. think it's high lv guild req though.

 

[Solipsist]

Most likely the pants and rings will be able to purchase at honoured guild rep.

 

[Holypowah]

Honestly, I hate looms. I think pvp will be better without them.

 

[Solipsist]

They have been around since 08^. Don't know why your saying this now.

 

[Terrlol]

Honestly, I hate looms. I think pvp will be better without them.

I disagree.
Looms helps new twinks vs GFd items. If u want the twink community to grow, u can't have GFd stuff.
Also making new twinks is easier with BOAs.

Any BOA that can replace an item not obtainable anymore is a good change, however i think once we get to the point where you only have BOAs, it's gona be boring.
Luckily rings and legs replace some GFd stuff

 

[Dramatized]

I disagree.
Looms helps new twinks vs GFd items. If u want the twink community to grow, u can't have GFd stuff.
Also making new twinks is easier with BOAs.

Any BOA that can replace an item not obtainable anymore is a good change, however i think once we get to the point where you only have BOAs, it's gona be boring.
Luckily rings and legs replace some GFd stuff

No GF'd legs or rings isn't even really good compared to obtainable gear.

The main thing BoAs have brought to the 19 is the insane burst.
Edit: Also ridiciously big heals...

 

[Terrlol]

No GF'd legs or rings isn't even really good compared to obtainable gear.

The main thing BoAs have brought to the 19 is the insane burst.
Edit: Also ridiciously big heals...

Legs bring more stamina and less str then westfall legs. BOA leather legs brings less agi but more stam then smelting pants
overall these BOAs don't do anything else then bring hp higher and dmg about the same

Also dmg is too high because of the base dmg and high scaling on main abilitys we got at 60+ before.

So far MOP looks like it's alot better though.

 

[Dagamela]

Stats on this staff can't be right :|

 

[Dorigon]

Stats on this staff can't be right :|

It is pretty safe to say that the stats on it are going to be in line with current BoA stats. The weapon is very redundant to the Lava Dredger.

 

[Dramatized]

Legs bring more stamina and less str then westfall legs. BOA leather legs brings less agi but more stam then smelting pants
overall these BOAs don't do anything else then bring hp higher and dmg about the same

Also dmg is too high because of the base dmg and high scaling on main abilitys we got at 60+ before.

So far MOP looks like it's alot better though.

600 instant arcane barrage would never appear without these nasty BoAs. And I was speaking about BoAs in general, not just these two.

 

[Weiss]

That may be true, but damage was seriously increased in Cata when int = SP and AP scaling from STR/AGI was increased. You can get similar gear to BoAs (offensive stat wise), other than the weapons. But really, ~50 SP isn't going to make AB hit much softer. Maybe 500 vs 600 damage.

 

[Dramatized]

That may be true, but damage was seriously increased in Cata when int = SP and AP scaling from STR/AGI was increased. You can get similar gear to BoAs (offensive stat wise), other than the weapons. But really, ~50 SP isn't going to make AB hit much softer. Maybe 500 vs 600 damage.

Although I doubt the dmg would only decrease with 100 dmg, I never claimed BoAs was the only reason to why we see this burst. Ofc the factors you're talking about is just as relevant, if not even more relevant even.

 

[Udiesoon]

I think it's just painful for old school twinks to see all these boa's. After 7 months of farming for scout's blade, 2 years for a fishing hat, and retarded amounts of farming for other various BiS items, its rough for me to see boa's become BiS in nearly every armor slot. Also, boa's give way better stats than any other comparable gear in some armor slots (helm/wep) which does increase burst in bracket.

 

[Terrlol]

I think it's just painful for old school twinks to see all these boa's. After 7 months of farming for scout's blade, 2 years for a fishing hat, and retarded amounts of farming for other various BiS items, its rough for me to see boa's become BiS in nearly every armor slot. Also, boa's give way better stats than any other comparable gear in some armor slots (helm/wep) which does increase burst in bracket.

I never got my fishing hat on my rogue, so when BOA head came i could fight on pair with other twinks.
I had fishing hat on my priest though, but after seeing it from both sides, i just think BOAs makes it better.
Also u would prolly be somewhere around 1k hp without any BOAs

 

[19 warrior adeus]

I never got my fishing hat on my rogue, so when BOA head came i could fight on pair with other twinks.
I had fishing hat on my priest though, but after seeing it from both sides, i just think BOAs makes it better.
Also u would prolly be somewhere around 1k hp without any BOAs

if you played back in bc you would not think this, boas have done nothing good for this bracket except make it easier for lazy bastards that shouldn't be in the bracket in the first place

 

[Dagamela]

if you played back in bc you would not think this, boas have done nothing good for this bracket except make it easier for lazy bastards that shouldn't be in the bracket in the first place

Better to have 100 lazy people in boas then 10 who would actually farm

 

[Udiesoon]

Better to have 100 lazy people in boas then 10 who would actually farm

That's the ultimate dilemma of 19's right there. Is better to have a few dedicated twinks with more competitive games, or masses of unskilled undergeared 19's that sometimes give way to gy farming facerolls? Tuff Stuff

 

[Dagamela]

That's the ultimate dilemma of 19's right there. Is better to have a few dedicated twinks with more competitive games, or masses of unskilled undergeared 19's that sometimes give way to gy farming facerolls? Tuff Stuff

Considering 1 of those things will never happen again, just have to deal with it sadly

 

[Terrlol]

if you played back in bc you would not think this, boas have done nothing good for this bracket except make it easier for lazy bastards that shouldn't be in the bracket in the first place

I played in bc
Getting lucky with GFd items or starting to play before others shouldn't give u an unfair Advantage.

Also if your so called unskilled undergeared twinks didn't have BOAs, they would be even easier to kill. It's all relative, there were lazy twinks before BOAs as well, with rogues running around with full defias sett and icy chill weps. Don't act like BOAs made it like this.
What am trying to say is that the way blizzard gave low lv these core abilitys, made the bracket alot more bursty. U can't blame the gear for it.

Personally am coming back to twinking in MOP, as the class balance seems alot better then the current game.