Itty Bitty Worlock
Legend
lvl 30 would be fine, we could "experience" other specs to the class (dual talents for those who do not know) because trials is all aboout EXPERIENCE 
Letter to Blizzard to increase level cap
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Itty Bitty Worlock
Legend
this is because the level 1 - 20 is the worst possible part of this game... we are experiencing the game at its worst and do not wish to see what torture is left to bare in the future... seeing how everything becomes more understandable above the level 20 cap to porb lvl 30 very acceptable to want to play toward lvl90 / 100... *cough* *cough*and it will make my worlock the most op thing in this game *cough* *cough*...and lets not ask for something too extravagant remember trials are meant just for a taste... also! remember the more good blizz does to us the more restrictions we are to bear...
droodwar
killuminati
I think blizzard would benefit more from raising the trial cap to level 60.
People would be able to experience more battlegrounds
But more importantly they would experience the Classic Raids!
Think about how much content is missed with someone just purchasing MoP and levelling as quickly as possible to 90.
60 would be a better taster of what a subscription has to offer.
People would be able to experience more battlegrounds
But more importantly they would experience the Classic Raids!
Think about how much content is missed with someone just purchasing MoP and levelling as quickly as possible to 90.
60 would be a better taster of what a subscription has to offer.
Crystalpall
the F2P PvEr
Yea you all cap increasing lovers say "it would benefit BLIZZARD more" or "more people would sub"
I call the Bullshit Bell!
F2P have the best experience of the game. 20 is like our endgame. It's not the level that irritates you, it's P2Ps using overpowered enchants.
Blizzard would benefit more if we are able to experience Alterac Valley or Molten Core?
They will get any more subscribers if F2Ps will be level 30?
Level increase will give us more things to do on F2P, P2Ps will stay. Enchants would be OP on 34s, and 64s have increased scaling.
Think before posting...
I call the Bullshit Bell!
F2P have the best experience of the game. 20 is like our endgame. It's not the level that irritates you, it's P2Ps using overpowered enchants.
Blizzard would benefit more if we are able to experience Alterac Valley or Molten Core?
They will get any more subscribers if F2Ps will be level 30?
Level increase will give us more things to do on F2P, P2Ps will stay. Enchants would be OP on 34s, and 64s have increased scaling.
Think before posting...
droodwar
killuminati
Think before posting? Its an opinion you angry little man.
All the classic content gets overlooked pretty quickly in the levelling process. Giving people who are trialing the game a better idea of what the game has to offer. Im not talking about f2p twinking, you think everyone with a trial account is a twink? I'm sure there'd be a lot of people for higher level cap as there are for keeping it at 20. Enchants are op at 20 what difference does it make at higher level? The twinkers would get more content. Its an opinion, I'm entitled to it.
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CripzBlood
Legend
I have DK if i want to do classic raids i hop on it
I dont see blizzard raising lvl cap anytime soon.
I dont see blizzard raising lvl cap anytime soon.
Itty Bitty Worlock
Legend
Dear angry p2p, we the humans are entitled to our opinions and although the fact that f2ps coming out from in the grasps of p2ps only to crush the same people who would deny them justice may frighten you, you would have to face the fact that blizz is just gonna slip up on your behalf and we are gonna take vengance,BUT what i was suggesting is that lvl30 has more general information to players that level 20 would provide.... when i tried ptr lvl 1-30, when i hit 30 i was confused as F**K and i still kinda am, lvl 30 incs are drastic thats why i would prefer to cap at lvl 30 for a trial basis.
Itty Bitty Worlock
Legend
I agree, more content = better understanding.
Trickynick
OG
Last time I can remember an open letter was sent from this website, Blizzard made the bad situation worse. I do believe it was the very creator of Twinkinfo that started collecting names for a namelist that would be sent directly to blizzard as a complaint/protest about the terrible state the 19 bracket was in (The thread should still be somewhere on TI if it hasn't been deleted yet). I can't remember the exact details of what was causing the bad situation, but I do believe this was all happening before the option to lock your xp-bar was introduced.
A few weeks after the letter was sent in, the XP-lock arrived and basicly killed off the 19 bracket entirely in most of the battelgroups. This resulted in twinks all around europe (idk about US) had to commit to a server transfere in order to gather on the same battlegroup and be able to have WSG pop regulary again.
Most players from back then know that Blizzard held little love for twinks, and I don't think it's any different today.
Again, this is all based on my memory, and this is how I remember it playing out. Please, if someone can either confirm or correct what's written above, do so. And pardon me if I've given any false information.
To get to my point: I really don't think F2Ps should gape for more than what we already have gotten to be honest. Try to take into consideration, before you decide to go ahead with your idea, that this community already is wonderful as it is with its activity and (in most cases) friendly athmosphere. Sure, it's not the most balanced bracket at the moment, but who knows what the future have in store for us. It might get better, it might get worse. We'll find out eventually. I am at least very thankful for it.
An other thing that I suggest you to think through is that Blizzard can erase all this for whatever reason they like, and I doubt they will care about anything we have to say about it. Let's face it, we're not even paying for the game and expect Blizzard to make our conditions any better than it already is? I think not. In their eyes we might appear as ungrateful guests that overextends our welcome under their roof. That might very well be a reason to get rid of us.
Just wanted to get my opinion on this matter out there, as I think a wakeup-call is required.
Lastly, a 'little' sidenote: Raising the level cap to 60 would most certainly NOT improve blizzards income. Alot of people would quit end game if the level 60 content had a stable player-base as the 20 bracket has at the moment, and therefore Blizzard would lose players more rapidly than they already do. Not only would they avoid the terrible state the end game is in for the moment, but they would be able to experience, what is considered by many, the best part of wow there ever was, namely Vanilla. I personally think that a way to decrease the current, steadily falling wow-popularity would be to introduce a vanilla-server with all the level 60 content as it was back then.
Then imagine if that would be free-to-play. Exactly, no way. It would probably result in subscribers linking a f2p-account to the their main-account and go back playing "the best part" of wow for free.
The very reason why the cap is 20 is because it shan't be tempting enough for subscribers to quit end game at the same time as it should bait the curiosity of new players. To, for example, make them wonder what dungeons will be unlocked after BFD and Stockades, what raids will be like or how the other battlegrounds are like. I think letting them level to 60 and take part of its content would basicly stimulate their curiousity enough to not push any farther.
A few weeks after the letter was sent in, the XP-lock arrived and basicly killed off the 19 bracket entirely in most of the battelgroups. This resulted in twinks all around europe (idk about US) had to commit to a server transfere in order to gather on the same battlegroup and be able to have WSG pop regulary again.
Most players from back then know that Blizzard held little love for twinks, and I don't think it's any different today.
Again, this is all based on my memory, and this is how I remember it playing out. Please, if someone can either confirm or correct what's written above, do so. And pardon me if I've given any false information.
To get to my point: I really don't think F2Ps should gape for more than what we already have gotten to be honest. Try to take into consideration, before you decide to go ahead with your idea, that this community already is wonderful as it is with its activity and (in most cases) friendly athmosphere. Sure, it's not the most balanced bracket at the moment, but who knows what the future have in store for us. It might get better, it might get worse. We'll find out eventually. I am at least very thankful for it.
An other thing that I suggest you to think through is that Blizzard can erase all this for whatever reason they like, and I doubt they will care about anything we have to say about it. Let's face it, we're not even paying for the game and expect Blizzard to make our conditions any better than it already is? I think not. In their eyes we might appear as ungrateful guests that overextends our welcome under their roof. That might very well be a reason to get rid of us.
Just wanted to get my opinion on this matter out there, as I think a wakeup-call is required.
Lastly, a 'little' sidenote: Raising the level cap to 60 would most certainly NOT improve blizzards income. Alot of people would quit end game if the level 60 content had a stable player-base as the 20 bracket has at the moment, and therefore Blizzard would lose players more rapidly than they already do. Not only would they avoid the terrible state the end game is in for the moment, but they would be able to experience, what is considered by many, the best part of wow there ever was, namely Vanilla. I personally think that a way to decrease the current, steadily falling wow-popularity would be to introduce a vanilla-server with all the level 60 content as it was back then.
Then imagine if that would be free-to-play. Exactly, no way. It would probably result in subscribers linking a f2p-account to the their main-account and go back playing "the best part" of wow for free.
The very reason why the cap is 20 is because it shan't be tempting enough for subscribers to quit end game at the same time as it should bait the curiosity of new players. To, for example, make them wonder what dungeons will be unlocked after BFD and Stockades, what raids will be like or how the other battlegrounds are like. I think letting them level to 60 and take part of its content would basicly stimulate their curiousity enough to not push any farther.
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Franciska
Legend
Plenty of players are heavily discouraged before level 20 (new players atleast) and won't even go past that. That said, 5-10 is probably the most brutal and unforgiving part of the game for new players who don't have alot of knowledge on the game. I rather see the beginnings easier for new players than a level increase.
The Saint
I won't like you
so what argument would you put in this letter?
dear blizzard:
i play your game free. if you don't let me play more of it for free, i will be forced to stop not paying you.
dear mcdonalds:
i eat out of your trashcan every evening. it's just dawned on me there is never any ketchup, if you could sort us some out i'd be very grateful. if not, i'll be eating in the ally at the side of burger king from now on!
-.-
dear blizzard:
i play your game free. if you don't let me play more of it for free, i will be forced to stop not paying you.
dear mcdonalds:
i eat out of your trashcan every evening. it's just dawned on me there is never any ketchup, if you could sort us some out i'd be very grateful. if not, i'll be eating in the ally at the side of burger king from now on!
-.-
Trickynick
OG
Naw, that's not quite what I meant. XP-lock was probably decided long before that very patch hit. What I wanted to point out is that a letter most likely will not change any plans for upcoming changes Blizzard are about to make. They did not listen to paying customers back then, so there's really no way that they will care about what a few f2p's urges them to do and not to do.
Palonabanana
Legend
All moral or business arguments against it are irrelevant, because the very same arguments could have been presented about making trials non-expiring back in 2011 and Blizz still did it. That aside, I don't want to have to re-gear my characters. Also, I believe that f2p vs p2w balance would become even worse than it is now. Although having more dungeons and battlegrounds would be slightly nice.