Letter to Blizzard to increase level cap

[Faerondil]

Yes. And the level capped players had a HUGE advantage over the people playing through.

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But they were not facing blue geared and epic gemmed 64s since the bracket was 51-60

 

[Shaket]

Yes. And the level capped players had a HUGE advantage over the people playing through.

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Level capped, but not account-restricted, they still could get their gear enchanted with the new enchants, and I think they were able to utilize the TBC gems as well. There's a big difference between p2p level-capped and f2p.

 

[Buckeye]

But they were not facing blue geared and epic gemmed 64s since the bracket was 51-60

Exactly. Which is why the 60s were smashing their faces in.

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[Shaket]

The capped 60s were also still paying their $15 monthly, so they weren't technically "playing for free", they just saved the one-time cost of buying the expansion.

 

[Buckeye]

I know when ever I get to 59, 69, 79, and 84 I always turn off my xp until I can farm all the BiS gear, then rampage until I ding into the next bracket. Then it's power level to the next stop and repeat the process.

The full 70 Brutal set is dirt cheap, and easily lasts through 74. Then there's an obvious lull.

With the ability to get ilvl 400+ items on 80s now, that bracket is insane. I've seen 80 mages take down Lord Marowgar in under two minutes.

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[Zehj]

If you want to write some letters, tell them to fix enchant scaling

 

[Buckeye]

I'd be pretty happy if they'd just let us level our profs to 225...

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[Goesid]

I'd be pretty happy if they'd just let us level our profs to 225...

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That would be nice. no more gloves or boots armor kits.

 

[yasueh]

The capped 60s were also still paying their $15 monthly, so they weren't technically "playing for free", they just saved the one-time cost of buying the expansion.

And this is why Blizzard are considered by many, especially those who PvP, to be both greedy and retarded.

Was there any reason to change bracket levels around, except to force people who were already subscribing to buy xpacks too, and use xp lock instead?

That's how much Bliz respect people who were actually giving them money, so don't expect them to do anything for F2Ps, except make the game as shit as possible, to try and force subscriptions.

Some people obviously haven't been playing long / haven't read the official forums regularly, otherwise they'd know this is a company that goes out of their way to ignore subscribers.

 

[Shaket]

And this is why Blizzard are considered by many, especially those who PvP, to be both greedy and retarded.

Was there any reason to change bracket levels around, except to force people who were already subscribing to buy xpacks too, and use xp lock instead?

That's how much Bliz respect people who were actually giving them money, so don't expect them to do anything for F2Ps, except make the game as shit as possible, to try and force subscriptions.

Some people obviously haven't been playing long / haven't read the official forums regularly, otherwise they'd know this is a company that goes out of their way to ignore subscribers.

I'd even be happy if Blizzard came along and said "We see that you've been paying $180 per year since 2005. We appreciate your business. Here is <insert gift or discount>. Thank you for playing World of Warcraft! "

But, that is less than likely to happen, because, well, Blizzard.

 

[Mephisto]

Honestly, I change my mind. Leveling through on my P2P, can be bled to death by a Rogue within a cheap shot and then vanish right away. I think I appreciate rogues at this level a little bit more now because I have seen how bad it can really get. 20 isn't so bad after all...

 

[Infomerc]

I'd even be happy if Blizzard came along and said "We see that you've been paying $180 per year since 2005. We appreciate your business. Here is <insert gift or discount>. Thank you for playing World of Warcraft! "

But, that is less than likely to happen, because, well, Blizzard.

I agree with this. And the fact that Blizzard DOESn't appreciate our business, is why so many of us are no longer paying customers. Many of us go back farther...to D1, D2, WC1, WC2, SC1. Personnally, we quit paying for WOW years ago, and never even considered D3, SC2, etc.

Feeling 'unappreciated' as a customer, so no longer a customer.

 

[Buckeye]

The thing that made me unsub was Ghostcrawler's 'Oooh, dungeons are hard' smart-ass blog post at the beginning of Cata, when it was clear to anything with a brain that the heroics were way overtuned.

I'm not asking for a 'pull the whole instance' zerg fest, but Corla was RIDICULOUS when everyone was ilvl 313. Grim Batol was a super bitch as well. There was absolutely zero forgiveness.

His attitude was a serious turn off.

I only resub occasionally when I want to farm something for my f2p.

And I'm not going to get into how CRZ and the realm merges have made the game as laggy and glitchy as a private server.

Maybe I should just go play on Molten Wow's WOTLK server...

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[The Saint]

The difference between a fully twinked 64 and a (if in theory it could happen which i doubt) f2p 60 would be a lot smaller than the current difference between 20 and 24s..

Also try to not spit out insults guys.. Keep it civil, i don't wanna have to clean up this thread if it can be avoided..

excuse me MR. moderator, could we possibly have an explanation on how the gap would be closer from 60-64 than 20-24. SoO boa's, arc boa's, and OL blues would like to know.

maybe explain it in the 60-64 section, THEN their bracket might get a pop this year.

 

[LennywBT]

OK guys listen up. This may seem far fetched or impossible, but i believe we can in numbers influence blizzard to make a change. We are going to need to come together with a plan as how we are to get this done. I don't know who to write to, so we need someone smarter than me to be the writer of the letter. There has to be a way to convince them, once we have created the ultimate letter, every f2p player needs to sign it somehow or in some other way show blizz all the potential customers they are missing out on. I know my plan needs alot of work and it isn't the best apple in the basket but that's why i got you guys! Im just trying to get this rolling, i know we have very talented individuals within the f2p playerbase and im sure if all our incredible minds come together, we can get blizzards attention and maybe, just maybe, get the trial cap increased.

I think that in next exspansion or the next after WoD Vanilla wow will entirely go F2P . "I THINK" ~~~ Thats what alot of people Do.
And this letter idea is cool , i think that we should OPPEN tickets about this .
If lv 60 thingy happens we can Find people for AHN'Qirajj and i luw thiss ^___^ ~~!

 

[Datinla]

I have a p2p account and a f2p account. This is not about being leeches on blizz, and for some of the others who replied with negative feedback: thank you for showing how shallow you are by spending so much time "twinking" a trial account. Like some have said, blizzard can in fact make HUGE changes out of nowhere which can make that item you have been working oh so hard on irrelevent. This is why i refuse to waste time on items that could mean nothing any day. Blizzard could decide to take away f2p any day of the week because it is their game, but that isn't a big problem for me because i can afford $15 a month... i don't play f2p wow just because it is free, i play it for the awesome players you can meet and have some pretty epic bgs, which lately have been lacking.

hahaha, why would blizz care about those awesome friends when they cant give any refunds at all to ppl who pay 15 bucks a month? doesnt make any sense man, also why do your "awesome" friends play f2p and not p2p then? cheap bastards

 

[Oliks]

excuse me MR. moderator, could we possibly have an explanation on how the gap would be closer from 60-64 than 20-24. SoO boa's, arc boa's, and OL blues would like to know.

maybe explain it in the 60-64 section, THEN their bracket might get a pop this year.

Well it was simply my point of view on this matter. But i'll try to go deeper into this, as i've twinked both brackets extensively..
I'm not gonna write a whole novel here, but here is some information that adds to why i believe this:

I've played the 20-24 bracket a lot, both as the most OP classes at 24 and as the "worst" f2p classes and some of the better f2ps.
What i've experienced in the 20-24 bracket, such as 24s literally oneshotting me or explosive shots ticking for 40% of a geared f2ps hp (especially now with the scroll abuse going on) isn't happening in the 60 bracket.. Even when shield slam was OP during MOP, warriors wasn't able to oneshot actually geared twinks..

That is why i MR. Moderator think that the 60 bracket would be more balanced than the 20-24 bracket...

Not that it is gonna happen anyway..

 

[LennywBT]

Honestly, I change my mind. Leveling through on my P2P, can be bled to death by a Rogue within a cheap shot and then vanish right away. I think I appreciate rogues at this level a little bit more now because I have seen how bad it can really get. 20 isn't so bad after all...

Yea it isnt bad , But . . . If Vanilla goes F2P we ca enter the Qiraji raids ,we Can go ti kill ragnaros , we can go to to BWL 40Man raid , Man , most of AP F2P's are gone from F2P bracket ,BFatigue's Killing ppl. If Van cones some APers can come back and level again and Hit 60 Get new gears and Open thread about doing a raid FULL OF F2P's . AgrammarEU can do the same. Its exiting man , a lv60 F2P on AhnQirajj. Idk , i love it.

 

[Crystalpall]

Yea it isnt bad , But . . . If Vanilla goes F2P we ca enter the Qiraji raids ,we Can go ti kill ragnaros , we can go to to BWL 40Man raid , Man , most of AP F2P's are gone from F2P bracket ,BFatigue's Killing ppl. If Van cones some APers can come back and level again and Hit 60 Get new gears and Open thread about doing a raid FULL OF F2P's . AgrammarEU can do the same. Its exiting man , a lv60 F2P on AhnQirajj. Idk , i love it.

We can do 100% F2P raids right now, just not everyone can participate #GFD #DKS

 

[The Saint]

I've played the 20-24 bracket a lot, both as the most OP classes at 24 and as the "worst" f2p classes and some of the better f2ps.
What i've experienced in the 20-24 bracket, such as 24s literally oneshotting me or explosive shots ticking for 40% of a geared f2ps hp (especially now with the scroll abuse going on) isn't happening in the 60 bracket.. Even when shield slam was OP during MOP, warriors wasn't able to oneshot actually geared twinks..

That is why i MR. Moderator think that the 60 bracket would be more balanced than the 20-24 bracket...

Not that it is gonna happen anyway..

the 60 bracket doesn't pop. when it did it was a one shot fest.

you said the difference would be a "lot" smaller, not it could be. i'd love to hear how the expansion gear gap, enchants scaling all the way to 64, and sockets could do that.