EU+US Legion Class changes effecting 10s

[despiler]

So fire Mage at 10 doesn't work anymore, since you lose the proc passive that makes it viable.

I'm testing out arcane and frost as alternatives


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[DeLindsay]

So fire Mage at 10 doesn't work anymore, since you lose the proc passive that makes it viable.

I'm testing out arcane and frost as alternatives


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Fire and frost at 10 both suck, well Frost sucks less. Arcane is OPAF if you get to stand and cast. At 4 Charges, AB hits for over 2100 on my 10 against NPCs. Fully buffed and if I'm able to get full +10 iLvL Invasion Gear incl the weapon for my Mage, Arcane barrage should hit close to 4K with 4 Charges since it does ~2100 now unbuffed with zero +10 iLvL gear. This would make Arcane Mages the highest single dmg capable 10's outside of iPvP. Still they would die in a fire against a Lock or Priest.

 

[despiler]

Fire and frost at 10 both suck, well Frost sucks less. Arcane is OPAF if you get to stand and cast. At 4 Charges, AB hits for over 2100 on my 10 against NPCs. Fully buffed and if I'm able to get full +10 iLvL Invasion Gear incl the weapon for my Mage, Arcane barrage should hit close to 4K with 4 Charges since it does ~2100 now unbuffed with zero +10 iLvL gear. This would make Arcane Mages the highest single dmg capable 10's outside of iPvP. Still they would die in a fire against a Lock or Priest.

I'm not quite hitting those numbers, but close.

This is my current spread:

I'm missing a few enchants, so that might be the difference.

I know on the low levels, grinding for that TF gear is a big deal, but ugh it suuuucks


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[DeLindsay]

I had 1 Crit with 4 Charge AB last night in an Invasion (had some Buffs on me like 10% Stats and 5% Main Stat from NPCs) hit a Demon for 3456. My 10 Mage has 1 TF item and the rest either Loom or standard iLvL 15 Invasion Gear, but he is 99% Versa so that's a big part of it... Oh and that was with a Heartsong Proc so add another 40 Versa.

 

[DeLindsay]

I've got he OP nearly updated to the 7.1 Class changes, should have the rest done by tonight.

 

[DexaQT]

**Slowly Updating to 7.1 Live**​

[PRIEST] Updated to 7.1

Discipline - Still close to God mode Healer, very good DPS

+ Flash Heal (very large Casted Heal)
Smite gains a Shield = to dmg dealt and does 3x more damage.
+ Plea (tiny instant Heal).
+ 3% of your damage Heals others "Buff" that's sometimes active.
Penance
PWS
SWP​

Holy - Much better than the 7.0 version

+ Holy Fire (Medium dmg DoT).
+ Holy Word: Serenity (GARGANTUAN Heal on a 1 min CD).
+ Renew
Smite
Flash Heal (exactly the same as Disc).​

Shadow - Exact same Healer as Disc now, slightly less DPS

+ Flash Heal (same as Disc).
+ PWS (same as Disc).
+ Mind Blast (medium-high dmg Casted Ability).
Mind Flay
SWP
+ Voidform (at 100 Insanity).
+ Void Bolt (requires Void Form, generates Insanity).​

[HUNTER]

Beast Mastery - Quite a bit more powerful than Live

+ Aspect of the Cheetah (short burst Run Speed).
+ Cobra Shot (replaces Steady Shot).
+ Dire Beast
- Arcane Shot​

Marksmanship - Slightly better than Live

+ Aspect of the Cheetah (short burst Run Speed).
+ Arcane Shot​

Survival - Interesting Spec, time will tell if any good

+ Logging into PTR I had Equipped Survivalist's Hunting Spear.
+ Aspect of the Cheetah (short burst Run Speed).
+ Flanking Strike (moderate dmg + Pet Threat if Target is attacking you).
+ Raptor Strike (crap dmg).
+ Wing Clip (yes, it's the old Wing Clip).
- Everything from Live​

[DRUID] Updated to 7.1

Guardian

+ Dash
+ Regrowth (slightly better than Feral).
+ Moonfire (usable in Bear Form).
Mangle
Maul
+ 10% damage reduction Passive.​

Feral

+ Feral Instinct Passive (better stealth).
+ Dash
+ Moonfire
+ Regrowth (kind of meh).
Ferocious Bite
Shred​

Restoration - Still junk

+ Dash
Rejuvenation
Regrowth
Moonfire
Solar Wrath​

Balance

+ Dash
+ Regrowth (and it's actually not terrible).
Starsurge
+ 5 yard range for Abilities' Passive, making them 45 yards.
​

[PALADIN]

Holy - Slightly better than Live

+ Flash of Light (srs, heals for 1/3rd that of Prot).
- Seal of Command
- Word of Glory
- Holy Power
~ Holy Shock is about 2.25x stronger than Live.​

Protection - Freaking OPAF

+ Flash of Light (no I'm not making that up, and it heals for a ton).
+ Hammer of the Righteous
- Crusader Strike
- Seal of Command
- Word of Glory
- Holy Power
~ Judgement does 3x the damage of Live.
~ Avenger's Shield does 2.5x the damage of Live.​

Retribution - Unclear without the 30% dmg Passive

+ Flash of Light (about 2x stronger than Holy).
- Sword of Light Passive (+30% damage with 2H).
- Seal of Command
- Word of Glory
~ Keeps Holy Power
~ CS and Templar's Verdict are about 2x stronger.​

[WARLOCK]

Affliction - Not unkillable but very strong.

+ Agony (Heavy damage DoT).
+ Soul Leech Passive (10% of ST dmg done = Shield you/Pet up to 15% Health).
- Shadow Bolt
~ Drain Life (srs, like 2K Health regen).
~ Corruption (slightly more dmg than Live).
~ Unstable Affliction (about 30% more dmg than Live).​

Demonology - Holy Drain Life Batman!

+ Hand of Gul'dan (AOE Imps).
+ Soul Leech Passive (10% of ST dmg done = Shield you/Pet up to 15% Health).
- Corruption
- Metamorphosis
- Molten Core Passive
~ Drain Life (if not interrupted = ~2K Health once complete).​

Destruction - Not impressive outside Drain Life

+ Immolate (moderate damage DoT).
+ Soul Leech Passive (10% of ST dmg done = Shield you/Pet up to 15% Health).
- Corruption
- Chaos Bolt
- Conflagrate
~ Drain Life (just run away, you won't kill that Lock).
~ Incinerate (does a little more damage than Live).​

[MAGE] Updated to 7.1

Arcane

+ Polymorph
Arcane Barrage
Arcane Charge (can have up to 4).
Arcane Blast
Frost Nova​

Fire

+ Polymorph
Fireball
Frost Nova
+ Fire Blast​

Frost

+ Polymorph
Ice Lance
Frostbolt (50% slow instead of 30%).
+ Water Jet (Water Elemental ability, medium damage).
- Summon Water Elemental​

[WARRIOR] Updated to 7.1

Arms

Slam (moderate damage, requires 2H).
~ Seasoned Soldier Passive (changed to flat 10% increase with 2H).
Victory Rush
Charge
Mortal Strike
Execute​

Fury

Furious Slash (light damage, lost the Crit to Bloodthirst).
+ Enrage Passive (Bloodthirst Crits double attack speed but take 30% more dmg).
Titan's grip Passive (allows dual 2H & +15% Health).
Charge
Bloodthirst
Execute​

Protection

+ Charge
+ Devastate (Medium dmg, requires a Shield).
Shield Slam
Victory Rush​

[ROGUE] Updated to 7.1

Assassination

+ Eviscerate (Finisher).
+ Cheap Shot (Stealth 4 sec Stun).
+ Poisons (Deadly Poison only).
Poisoned Knife (30 yd range attack to apply Poison & 1 Combo pt).
- Ambush
+ Sinister Strike
~ Mutilate (does nearly 4x the damage of Live, requires Daggers).​

Subtlety

Backstab (requires Daggers).
+ Cheap Shot (Stealth 4 sec Stun).
+ Shuriken Toss (30 yd range crap attack, 1 combo pt).
Eviscerate​

Outlaw

+ Riposte (100% Parry for 10s with light dmg back every 1s).
+ Cheap Shot (Stealth 4 sec Stun).
Run Through (Finisher, much higher damage than Eviscerate).
Saber Slash (Combo building medium damage).
~ Only Spec in Legion that doesn't force you to use Daggers.​

[MONK]

Brewmaster - Very good Tanking with high DPS

+ Effuse (medium Heal).
+ Keg Smash (replaces Dizzying Haze, high Damage as well).
- Jab
- Stance of the Steady Ox (Stagger portion was made a Passive).
- Resolve Passive
- Tiger Strike Passive
- Way of the Monk Passive
~ Blackout Strike (lost the 10% Parry component).
~ Stagger removed from Stance of the Steady Ox (much better by itself).​

Mistweaver - Much better than Live

+ Effuse (shit Heal).
+ Enveloping Mist (large HoT + 30% Healing buff).
+ Soothing Mist Passive (continue Healing until another action).
+ Teachings of the Monastery Passive (damage increase).
- Jab
- Stance of the Spirited Crane
- Stance of the Wise Serpent
- Soothing Mist
- Tiger Strikes Passive
- Way of the Monk Passive
~ Blackout Kick (2x the damage but lost the Heal component).​

Windwalker - Highest mobility of any 10, gutted for damage output

+ Effuse (medium Heal).
+ Flying Serpent Kick
- Fist of Fury (Noooooooooooooooo!!).
- Stance of the Fierce Tiger
- Tiger Strikes Passive
- Way of the Monk
~ Tiger Palm (does 25-50% less damage than Live).​

[SHAMAN] Updated to 7.1

Restoration - Still exceptionally good

+ Earthbind Totem
Flame Shock
Lightning Bolt
Healing Surge
Riptide​

Elemental

+ Earthbind Totem
Flame Shock
Healing Surge (equivalent to Resto).
Lightning Bolt
Earth Shock
+ 250% instead of 200% Crit Ceiling, Passive.​

Enhancement - Still terribad

+ Earthbind Totem
+ Healing Surge (about 3/4 the potency of Resto).
Rockbiter
Lighting Bolt (ahahahaha, does 28 dmg in near full TF Invasion gear).
Lava Lash (shit dmg).​

Dagger in Offhand with LS is bis. SO you still get forced as Outlaw to have a dagger.

 

[DeLindsay]

Dagger in Offhand with LS is bis. SO you still get forced as Outlaw to have a dagger.

Not by the Abilities, only by what is BiS for iPvP for the week or 2 until Blizz fixes all the 7.1 bugs

 

[DexaQT]

Not by the Abilities, only by what is BiS for iPvP for the week or 2 until Blizz fixes all the 7.1 bugs

Dagger is still bis for enchant procs.

 

[DeLindsay]

Dagger is still bis for enchant procs.

While that may be true, my comment in the OP is about what is required by the Abilities, nothing more.

 

[DexaQT]

While that may be true, my comment in the OP is about what is required by the Abilities, nothing more.

Ahh, didn't see. Sorry!

 

[DeLindsay]

Alrighty all changes have been noted. Here's a quick snapshot of what happened:

Classes that got fucked in 7.1:

• Warlock
• Monk
• Hunter (except SV)

Classes that had minor changes:

• Warrior

Classes that stayed mostly the same or even got buffed:

• Pally
• Priest
• Druid
• Rogue
• Mage
• Shaman

 

[Sleb]

spriest is so great with heal/mind blast i love it