<its called containing> [A] - Kael'thas - Recruitment Thread

[Conq]

How relevant is rating at endgame? I beleive itts a sensitive issue when discussed/looked into with your members and often results in lashing out after many of them have been disproven to only be rated on 70/74/80/85s.

But thats just my experience from a by stander pov.

While end game rating doesn't mean everything @24 it does mean a lot for things like, team work, knowing which buttons to press, positioning, and how to play in general. A lot of our members do brag about having a high rating in a low level bracket which is fine by me. The glads and hero's tend not to brag at all, i'm sure if you looked into it further you would find them and they would be happy to link you their achievements. Anyway, add me when you hop on (or have an officer) and we can discuss setting something up.

 

[CIHC]

While end game rating doesn't mean everything @24 it does mean a lot skill wise. A lot of our members have been high rated in those low level brackets. Some of our members such as Magehdeinson, Dimple, imsocuteyea, and Amushula have all been Hero of the.... or Glad/multi.

As have some of our key players

And about that whole a-team thing - its a two way street imo the names of HC's team changed drastically from those two premade days, so i dont think you can say you didnt have your whole ateam but hold HC to different.

Anyways just PM me i dont really care for going back and forth with you about irrelevant factors or opinions.

 

[Conq]

I was starting to get bored with the back and forth as well, useless chatter for the most part. I'll talk to you in game.

 

[Superstylin]

Good luck with the guild! Great initiative. [MENTION=1945]CIHC[/MENTION] I'll be contacting you in game soon for premades

 

[Yîng]

what classes you guys looking for btw? I may make a toon, just wanted to know what classes you need the most of.

 

[Apnea]

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for my dawgs

 

[Lil]

From the competitive pov i'd rather challenge HC>SCC.

No disrespect (seeing this is a recruitment thread I'll remain neutral) but you'd get more competition from facing a solid group of F2Ps then you will from those 2 guilds. If competition is your real goal then:

1) Why roll P2P? Roll F2P and face the abundant amount of horde P2Ps and you will get your challenge for freee
2) Do not attempt to challenge any of the "top" guilds. There are no top guilds atm so if you are making a team of good/great players in hopes to find competition against the avg guilds running around atm you will probably be disappointed..


Trying to remain neutral it's just that I've seen some good 24s come into this bracket looking for a challenge and quickly leaving once they see the current state of 24s that inhabit this bracket. Anyways gl with getting any premades and cya in the gulch

 

[Apnea]

but you'd get more competition from facing a solid group of F2Ps then you will from those 2 guilds. If competition is your real goal then:

1) Why roll P2P? Roll F2P and face the abundant amount of horde P2Ps and you will get your challenge for freee

I never understood this, what makes it more challenging to be a F2P? How does intentionally gimping yourself on the ability to gear and level breed a better player? I don't understand why someone would intentionally do this while having the same opportunity to go 24 P2P, and then complain about people who do exactly the latter.

 

[CIHC]

No disrespect (seeing this is a recruitment thread I'll remain neutral) but you'd get more competition from facing a solid group of F2Ps then you will from those 2 guilds. If competition is your real goal then:

1) Why roll P2P? Roll F2P and face the abundant amount of horde P2Ps and you will get your challenge for freee
2) Do not attempt to challenge any of the "top" guilds. There are no top guilds atm so if you are making a team of good/great players in hopes to find competition against the avg guilds running around atm you will probably be disappointed..


Trying to remain neutral it's just that I've seen some good 24s come into this bracket looking for a challenge and quickly leaving once they see the current state of 24s that inhabit this bracket. Anyways gl with getting any premades and cya in the gulch

Well in all honesty the grind would be a bit much for majority of our liking - I would probably be down to vouch the idea of a private server 10v10 of the "top dogs" of f2p vs us etc.

 

[Lil]

How does intentionally gimping yourself on the ability to gear and level breed a better player?

Because you need to work around those limitations to just attempt to be on par with the fully geared 24. I'd understand if you said it is dumb to gimp yourself and its only 15 bucks n we're too poor (typical 24 comment) however asking how gimping yourself then beating up those that aren't makes you a better player was an odd question. If you have learned to fight with a rock and you beat someone with a gun you have learned how to be the more skilled person (random example).

I don't understand why someone would intentionally do this while having the same opportunity to go 24 P2P, and then complain about people who do exactly the latter.

It's not as much complaining at this point.. Not many F2Ps still complain about P2Ps thats been here for awhile. Majority of P2Ps suck and use their gear/chants as an advantage to win, everyone knows it and at this point has accepted it. No point to complain about people that won't change their ways.


My post was honestly not meant to be hostile. Was trying to give you a heads up that a group of good/great players coming into this bracket looking for competitiveness by challenging the ok/avg 24s currently in it won't end how you want it. If you wanna get more into the F2P vs P2P debate feel free to PM me cuz I won't derail this anymore

 

[Apnea]

Because you need to work around those limitations to just attempt to be on par with the fully geared 24. I'd understand if you said it is dumb to gimp yourself and its only 15 bucks n we're too poor (typical 24 comment) however asking how gimping yourself then beating up those that aren't makes you a better player was an odd question. If you have learned to fight with a rock and you beat someone with a gun you have learned how to be the more skilled person (random example).

It's not as much complaining at this point.. Not many F2Ps still complain about P2Ps thats been here for awhile. Majority of P2Ps suck and use their gear/chants as an advantage to win, everyone knows it and at this point has accepted it. No point to complain about people that won't change their ways.

My post was honestly not meant to be hostile. Was trying to give you a heads up that a group of good/great players coming into this bracket looking for competitiveness by challenging the ok/avg 24s currently in it won't end how you want it. If you wanna get more into the F2P vs P2P debate feel free to PM me cuz I won't derail this anymore

No offense taken, thanks for the level headed response I didn't mean for my post to come across as insulting either, I was just genuinely curious why most F2Ps (figuratively) choose to enter a gun fight with a butter knife, well-knowing that they have the same access to guns as everyone else showing up, and then complaining when they get shot. You seem to have a better grasp on why it's done that most of the others that I've asked.

 

[CIHC]

what classes you guys looking for btw? I may make a toon, just wanted to know what classes you need the most of.

Hey! Sorry i was a bit late to reply didnt see your message in the walls of apnea - roll whatever you feel most confident playing (if monk is up there for what you enjoy the most i would encourage that)

 

[Alex]

bump for these studs

 

[sakn]

Can't wait!
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bumpidy.

 

[CIHC]

10v10 May 2nd testing new comp and getting some of the dust off our bench as "certain" players wont sub for premade after they witnessed the previous games willing to xfer/fund bis priest/feral

Check skype more often you mutt we already found ppl for the needed classes.

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Still recruiting more for inguild wargames to test/build new strats/comps

 

[sakn]

Bump! ^_^

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[Izac]

I was just genuinely curious why most F2Ps (figuratively) choose to enter a gun fight with a butter knife, well-knowing that they have the same access to guns as everyone else showing up.

yoo hey guys. let me answer that as I was just talking to some other P2P guilds about this and still have some thoughts fresh in my head

with regards to the gun fight/butter knife thing - Id respond by saying that f2ps arent entering a gun fight with a butter knife, were entering a butter knife fight with a butter knife! since the majority of the bracket is f2p (I'd say it's probably 80%/20% with f2p majority) the best chance for competitive games is being an f2p

There are a lot of f2p realms out there who want to have competitive games. Been queueing 5-10 people on Misha alliance consistenly and Aerie Peak horde and BWL horde do the same. quite a few other f2p realms have the ability to make 5-10 man premades if they see the activity happening, and you could help make that happen

What I would suggest to you if you want to have the most options is to make level 20 p2ps and carry f2p-restricted gear sets to use for everything except other p2p premades. Its very easy to acquire f2p gear on a p2p. Most are just quest items

If you don't know what f2p restrictions are, they include not being able to get past level 20, not being able to use the mailbox or auction house or trades, not being able to carry more than 10 gold (ie no helm/cloak/leg heirlooms) and not being able to get main professions past 100 skill. the biggest effect this has is with enchants. we have access to only very weak enchants compared to p2ps

f2p restrictions actually help make this bracket somewhat balanced and make it so that we cant do more damage than our healthpools can handle at this level. might as well take advantage of that

look up Wheres my Crutch @ Nazgrel - Community - World of Warcraft - p2p players using f2p restrictions. Also Ursin I believe are ex-19s who play with f2p gear

See you guys in the gulch

 

[Conq]

yoo hey guys. let me answer that as I was just talking to some other P2P guilds about this and still have some thoughts fresh in my head

with regards to the gun fight/butter knife thing - Id respond by saying that f2ps arent entering a gun fight with a butter knife, were entering a butter knife fight with a butter knife! since the majority of the bracket is f2p (I'd say it's probably 80%/20% with f2p majority) the best chance for competitive games is being an f2p

There are a lot of f2p realms out there who want to have competitive games. Been queueing 5-10 people on Misha alliance consistenly and Aerie Peak horde and BWL horde do the same. quite a few other f2p realms have the ability to make 5-10 man premades if they see the activity happening, and you could help make that happen

What I would suggest to you if you want to have the most options is to make level 20 p2ps and carry f2p-restricted gear sets to use for everything except other p2p premades. Its very easy to acquire f2p gear on a p2p. Most are just quest items

If you don't know what f2p restrictions are, they include not being able to get past level 20, not being able to use the mailbox or auction house or trades, not being able to carry more than 10 gold (ie no helm/cloak/leg heirlooms) and not being able to get main professions past 100 skill. the biggest effect this has is with enchants. we have access to only very weak enchants compared to p2ps

f2p restrictions actually help make this bracket somewhat balanced and make it so that we cant do more damage than our healthpools can handle at this level. might as well take advantage of that

look up Wheres my Crutch @ Nazgrel - Community - World of Warcraft - p2p players using f2p restrictions. Also Ursin I believe are ex-19s who play with f2p gear

See you guys in the gulch

I fully support the logic behind being a f2p and think it's admirable. However being a f2p limits you not only in gear but in competition, there is a reason why F2P's like [MENTION=14218]Lil[/MENTION] take PuGs so seriously and 24s don't. We have other forms of competition available to us, f2ps don't.

 

[Lil]

Just smile and nod lil, don't worry they will be gone once they get beat down. Just wait

 

[CIHC]

yoo hey guys. let me answer that as I was just talking to some other P2P guilds about this and still have some thoughts fresh in my head

with regards to the gun fight/butter knife thing - Id respond by saying that f2ps arent entering a gun fight with a butter knife, were entering a butter knife fight with a butter knife! since the majority of the bracket is f2p (I'd say it's probably 80%/20% with f2p majority) the best chance for competitive games is being an f2p

There are a lot of f2p realms out there who want to have competitive games. Been queueing 5-10 people on Misha alliance consistenly and Aerie Peak horde and BWL horde do the same. quite a few other f2p realms have the ability to make 5-10 man premades if they see the activity happening, and you could help make that happen

What I would suggest to you if you want to have the most options is to make level 20 p2ps and carry f2p-restricted gear sets to use for everything except other p2p premades. Its very easy to acquire f2p gear on a p2p. Most are just quest items

If you don't know what f2p restrictions are, they include not being able to get past level 20, not being able to use the mailbox or auction house or trades, not being able to carry more than 10 gold (ie no helm/cloak/leg heirlooms) and not being able to get main professions past 100 skill. the biggest effect this has is with enchants. we have access to only very weak enchants compared to p2ps

f2p restrictions actually help make this bracket somewhat balanced and make it so that we cant do more damage than our healthpools can handle at this level. might as well take advantage of that

look up Wheres my Crutch @ Nazgrel - Community - World of Warcraft - p2p players using f2p restrictions. Also Ursin I believe are ex-19s who play with f2p gear

See you guys in the gulch

That sounds like a great idea was never aware there was a community of p2p restricted, I'm really interested in doing this and am going to try to encourage some of our core members to do so as-well.

Thanks for the info

Just smile and nod lil, don't worry they will be gone once they get beat down. Just wait

I speak for a few of our members when i say we admire your presence in the gulch, Keep on doing what you're doing - and if you ever make a p2p we would be more than happy to fully fund you.