Is the PvP trink BiS?

Is the PvP trink BiS?


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I like dying to derps because I sit in a 6 sec hammer?
 
its a just a big maybe. If you dont equip it, you run the risk of possibly not being able to make a game changing move because you are stunned. And this is more important depending on what roll you are playing.

For an FC that can heal, i think it is always BIS. You can over-heal so resil is best.
For an FC that cant heal but has a healer with them, I think it is always BIS. Resil for the over-heal and it also helps with priest bubbles.
If you cant heal as FC and no healer is with ya, switch for AGM when trinket is unavailable.

If you are a healer, trinket is always BIS, don't bother switching it out.

As a dps, i think if you can off heal it should be used always unless you are really stacking other stats like hit. If you cant off heal, it just depends. Do you need hit from the rune but want to keep your stam and bubble from agm? Duel haste trinkets? Id say if you you have a healer with you, the trinket would be BIS if you are concerned with survivability with a dual agm. If you are just puggin, then its your call. If you die because you cant use trinket, then its "oh well" in most situations. This is were it is up to you and there is no true BIS.

just my opinions and im slightly intoxicated so don't rip on me too bad.
 
Excluding humans, and only when it is off c.d.

You should add "Excluding Mages, because Blink removes Stuns and Roots, so it would only be useful for Fears or Disorients"
 
If you manage to not-die every time you get HoJ'd, then indeed, it's debatable, because in that same time, someone else could have died.
I rarely die in HoJ cause I will just pop a Roar of Sac

Its BiS. It's not up to you. Really.

But.... But.. You just said it was debateable :confused:


To all those saying its not even a debate you're looking at someone who hasn't used it in a year. Different classes have different jobs and mine isn't to be a juggernaut and stay alive for every little stun people can give. I know I'm one of the minority but idc not changing my mind on this. Trinket ISN'T BiS.
 
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no contest, it's bis.



Different classes have different jobs and mine isn't to be a juggernaut and stay alive for every little stun people can give. I know I'm one of the minority but idc not changing my mind on this. Trinket ISN'T BiS.

yep and thats true. but it's all classes job to make sure the efc dies and the fc lives. if you cant do that cuz you're stuck in a hoj, poly, fear, sap, then what use is 6haste or 12stam? it's not just about your own survival..

but ofc huntards like big numberz
 
I rarely die in HoJ cause I will just pop a Roar of Sac



But.... But.. You just said it was debateable :confused:


To all those saying its not even a debate you're looking at someone who hasn't used it in a year. Different classes have different jobs and mine isn't to be a juggernaut and stay alive for every little stun people can give. I know I'm one of the minority but idc not changing my mind on this. Trinket ISN'T BiS.


The fact that you don't use it doesn't prove anything, its BiS. Its debatable for more selfish/individual play, but not when you're playing with/against a team. Sure, you don't die in that HoJ - but your healer might when they're getting focused without peels. And you know who else doesn't die when you're CCed? The enemy FC/healers.

Its not up for debate, PvP trinket is BiS. You're perfectly welcome to gear how you'd like. This debate isn't about whether or not you need a PvP trinket to be viable or do well (you don't), its about whether or not it's best in slot.
 
I rarely die in HoJ cause I will just pop a Roar of Sac



But.... But.. You just said it was debateable :confused:


To all those saying its not even a debate you're looking at someone who hasn't used it in a year. Different classes have different jobs and mine isn't to be a juggernaut and stay alive for every little stun people can give. I know I'm one of the minority but idc not changing my mind on this. Trinket ISN'T BiS.
Your job is to do damage. You don't do damage while sitting in a CC. Simple as that.

It's not only about survival, believe it or not, you can also trinket offensively.
 
If the alternative is double AGM or AGM and rune then yes.

For every class:AGM + PvP trink > Double AGM / AGM + Rune

Fore caster dps:
AGM + PvP trink > Rune of Perfection > Double AGM

For melee dps:
AGM + PvP trink > Double AGM > Rune of Duty

For FC's:
AGM + PvP trink > Double AGM > Rune of Duty/perfection
 
If the alternative is double AGM or AGM and rune then yes.

For every class:AGM + PvP trink > Double AGM / AGM + Rune

Fore caster dps:
AGM + PvP trink > Rune of Perfection > Double AGM

For melee dps:
AGM + PvP trink > Double AGM > Rune of Duty

For FC's:
AGM + PvP trink > Double AGM > Rune of Duty/perfection
I would say Rune > AGM for casters since they already have a hard enough time hitting 24's.
 

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