US Is 20-29 still a thing?

[Kracks]

23 - that came as a surprise. You read like a 16 year old.

I genuinely understand both sides of the argument, competitiveness and leaderboards are what you play for. The counter argument is that it's such an imba bracket, with fotm controlling the top spots; it's not fun, engaging or even worth getting competitive over. If you can't at least accept those statements then you're a moron...

But it’s not like one singular class is fotm. A bunch of classes are really good...hunter, mage, warrior, ret(in arena), shaman, priest, rogue, monk, druids(in bg). Their are so many different classes that are completely viable in comparison to each other so I don’t rlly understand the whole fotm argument. It’s not like it’s one singular thing like 29 bm monk from wod or surv hunt from Cata mop legion that just has complete dominance over everything else.

 

[hom]

But it’s not like one singular class is fotm. A bunch of classes are really good...hunter, mage, warrior, ret(in arena), shaman, priest, rogue, druids (in bg). Their are so many different classes that are completely viable in comparison to each other so I don’t rlly understand the whole fotm argument. It’s not like it’s one singular thing like 29 bmw monk from wod or surv hunt from Cata mop that just has complete dominance over everything else.

Looking at the current ladder it's clear that Arcane mage + Crusader are the deciding factors in the competitive scene. That's where I draw the line on 'fotm'

 

[melabeari]

hasn't it always been like this, anyone else remember lvl 24 shadow priests?

 

[Kracks]

Looking at the current ladder it's clear that Arcane mage + Crusader are the deciding factors in the competitive scene. That's where I draw the line on 'fotm'

Ok so ur talking about the arena ladder...there are many viable 3s comps at 20s that are good. Rogue/war/x (scary for healers) hunter/ret/x (trap is 30 sec cd) mage/rogue/x (frost mage can be good vs melee comps and fire mage can be rlly bursty in arena) any shaman spec is good because wind shear. Arcane mages do a lot of consistent dmg but they r squishy (aimed shots take about half their hp). Arcane dmg can also be losd easily.

 

[hom]

hasn't it always been like this, anyone else remember lvl 24 shadow priests?

That's kinda the point. It's really not worth getting that competitive over as there's always going to be a clear fotm class/enchant/comp because there's simply not enough counter measures/abilities in this bracket.

I guess it's always the case in twink brackets & I'm not against all competitiveness. It's just damn stupid to be shit talking about your place in a ladder to people that aren't competing in the same way, in a bracket that's not equipped to deal with anything more than 4 specs/classes at the top...
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Ok so ur talking about the arena ladder...there are many viable 3s comps at 20s that are good. Rogue/war/x (scary for healers) hunter/ret/x (trap is 30 sec cd) mage/rogue/x (frost mage can be good vs melee comps and fire mage can be rlly bursty in arena) any shaman spec is good because wind shear. Arcane mages do a lot of consistent dmg but they r squishy (aimed shots take about half their hp). Arcane dmg can also be losd easily.

it's controlled by crusader and/or mage for those teams to work...

Idk if you've played on European servers but I've come across some russian groups running 5 arcane mages. It's impossible to do anything vs that class, you die in literal seconds. They are one of the hardest casters to los if you ask me, once missiles start casting you are losing 50% of your hp in a second or two.

 

[Kracks]

That's kinda the point. It's really not worth getting that competitive over as there's always going to be a clear fotm class/enchant/comp because there's simply not enough counter measures/abilities in this bracket.

I guess it's always the case in twink brackets & I'm not against all competitiveness. It's just damn stupid to be shit talking about your place in a ladder to people that aren't competing in the same way, in a bracket that's not equipped to deal with anything more than 4 specs/classes at the top...
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it's controlled by crusader and/or mage for those teams to work...

Idk if you've played on European servers but I've come across some russian groups running 5 arcane mages. It's impossible to do anything vs that class, you die in literal seconds. They are one of the hardest casters to los if you ask me, once missiles start casting you are losing 50% of your hp in a second or two.

Well I am against class stacking in arena
[doublepost=1568992459][/doublepost]The point is there’s not one 3s comp that’s is obviously superior to the rest there are a ton of different options. U just need to adapt playstyle

 

[hom]

Well I am against class stacking in arena
[doublepost=1568992459][/doublepost]The point is there’s not one 3s comp that’s is obviously superior to the rest there are a ton of different options. U just need to adapt playstyle

*You need a mage and/or multiple weapons with crusader. - FIFY

 

[Kracks]

Also double hybrid comps r good
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*You need a mage and/or multiple weapons with crusader. - FIFY

U rlly don’t. Take it from someone who has rlly only been playing arenas in both 19s and 20s for the past 4 months

 

[hom]

Also double hybrid comps r good
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U rlly don’t

I'm sure it can be done without mage/crusader. But nobody is doing it... because it takes 10x the effort and skill. That's why people roll mages and warriors/rets for arenas and 3v3. Get the ez win, carried by the class/enchant.

If you want to queue into mirrors fine, go all out and have fun. But if that's the limit of the competitive play then understand not everyone is interested.

 

[Kracks]

I'm sure it can be done without mage/crusader. But nobody is doing it... because it takes 10x the effort and skill. That's why people roll mages and warriors/rets for arenas and 3v3. Get the ez win, carried by the class/enchant.

If you want to queue into mirrors fine, go all out and have fun. But if that's the limit of the competitive play then understand not everyone is interested.

Do u even q arenas at 20s?

 

[Radical]

If you want competitive arenas play endgame @Kracks 20 anything is not competitive...

 

[zazzyfraz]

not sure why everyone is crying about fotm stuff
Play wat u want, or play what’s strong
Only Solo queue if you want more challenge?
You can also wargame too
u don’t even really run into these guys who are top of the arena thingy in random skirms lol..

I have a lot of fun in this bracket solo queuing glass cannon boomkin (1.3khp/850 regrowth crits) and doing bgs. When you solo queue you get 1v2 matchups pretty often these days too.

Don’t forget we are level 20

 

[Chops]

*You need a mage and/or multiple weapons with crusader. - FIFY

U rlly don’t. Take it from someone who has rlly only been playing arenas in both 19s and 20s for the past 4 months

there are many viable 3s comps at 20s that are good. Rogue/war/x (scary for healers) hunter/ret/x (trap is 30 sec cd) mage/rogue/x

 

[Kracks]

There are other comps as well: hunt mage. Lock mage/lock hunt/lock rogue/ spriest/rogue

 

[Radical]

There are other comps as well

What dat mouf do?

 

[ohti]

not sure why everyone is crying about fotm stuff
Play wat u want, or play what’s strong
Only Solo queue if you want more challenge?
You can also wargame too
u don’t even really run into these guys who are top of the arena thingy in random skirms lol..

I have a lot of fun in this bracket solo queuing glass cannon boomkin (1.3khp/850 regrowth crits) and doing bgs. When you solo queue you get 1v2 matchups pretty often these days too.

Don’t forget we are level 20

It's not that were sick of fotm, this bracket is a one shot heavy fotm bracket, that's why half of us play it. We like those sick one shots on levelers lmao

It's the whole "hurr durr I have a lot of skill because I play 20s guys look at how much I care about the unofficial level 20 world of warcraft arena ladder"

Not to bash on the arena ladder, I think it's awesome. I have tons of fun playing with guildies, trying different comps and such can make for great fun. People just need to either shut the fuck up and understand the type of community we are in this bracket or go play end game or something. The overwhelming majority of us are far from elitist, competitive, etc. That's why wargames or tournaments never work in this here. Bracket tourists man...

 

[Kracks]

It's not that were sick of fotm, this bracket is a one shot heavy fotm bracket, that's why half of us play it. We like those sick one shots on levelers lmao

It's the whole "hurr durr I have a lot of skill because I play 20s guys look at how much I care about the unofficial level 20 world of warcraft arena ladder"

Not to bash on the arena ladder, I think it's awesome. I have tons of fun playing with guildies, trying different comps and such can make for great fun. People just need to either shut the fuck up and understand the type of community we are in this bracket or go play end game or something. Bracket tourists man...

But it’s the only active bracket so u will have new people coming in whether u like it or not.

 

[ohti]

But it’s the only active bracket so u will have new people coming in whether u like it or not

I get that, and be as competitive as you want idc

But stop talking like you're hot shit seriously idk a single person other than your own arena partners that actually likes you, or has anything good to say about you at all.

Or continue who am I to tell you what to do. I understand what type of game play you want but what you need to understand that generally speaking this is the wrong community for that type of gameplay.

 

[hom]

There are other comps as well: hunt mage. Lock mage/lock hunt/lock rogue/ spriest/rogue

Can you honestly say (the comps w/o the mages) have a chance against fotm comps that include crusader and/or mage?

I've got a lock. And although they can surprise with their damage, there's no hope in fuck they can compete with mages, fury warriors or reti. Don't ruin your credibility claiming that nonsense.

 

[Kracks]

I get that, and be as competitive as you want idc

But stop talking like you're hot shit seriously idk a single person other than your own arena partners that actually likes you, or has anything good to say about you at all.

Or continue who am I to tell you what to do. I understand what type of game play you want but what you need to understand that generally speaking this is the wrong community for that type of gameplay.

Why do u care how I act? U sound insecure. I also don’t care if any of ur friends like me. U said it urself this is the easy leveler farming bracket. I don’t respect u or ur friends. I’m just trying to get more competitive people into the only active twinking bracket on retail