Increase in horde 24s

[Sabzep]

Did i read right? No one mentions the obvious? At least in my opinion. With the imminent release of MoP. When the first green item you pick up in the add-on is better then your precious hard earned raid epic. You have no incentive to play endgame and besides you have seen it all. So they spend their time derping the lowest skill-floor class a 24.

 

[rsq]

Why did nobody tell me definitions of words are opinionated now?

rofl

But really, the link youakim posted defines skill floor and skill cap very cleanly.

 

[kablam]

Thanks, but I have played long enough to form my own opinion on what a skill cap is.

Yeah and I've been a mechanic long enough to form my own opinion of what a wrench is, a pilot long enough to form my own opinion of what an engine is, an electrical engineer to form my own opinion on what a circuit is, a physicist long enough to form my own opinion on what a nuclear reaction is, and a shaman long enough to form my own opinion on what flame shock is.

 

[Mephisto]

Your glibness does not make this conversation very friendly. I have said my peace, and that should be the end of it. I wasn't trying to make a point, I was merely using it in my response to this thread.

Edit: Neither was I trying to start an argument about a skill cap for the classes I might add.

Edit: Because my grammar hates me.

 

[Lil]

Yes there are alot more 24s bging it seems for both sides. I honestly don't 24s on my own side because often when I get the 3-5 person premade of 24s its against a full 1k horde group and is just 7 minute bgs over and over. Wish there was a way for 24 premade to just bg with other 24 premades because they are starting to turn this bracket into who has more 24s instead of who has the better trials

 

[Chase]

Having 24s in your battleground is the downside to not paying for this game.

Plus most premades I've been in clean up 24s nicely.

 

[Night]

I lol at people thinking 10-24 twinking got any skill cap at all, any retard can play any class successfully, theres so few buttons, but yeah, most people suck ass anyway.

 

[Junoo]

Why does this forum even support 24's and their steamrolling on 20's? I really would like an answer on that.

20-24* bracket is an xp off bracket thus being a twink bracket and this site being a winking website it seems approraite that there would be forum for it.

Your hatred for 24's isn't a good enough reason to remove 20-24's forum from the site.

Please also note that there are F2p forums and 20-24's forums.

*excuse my typos - using my blackberry.

 

[Junoo]

Did i read right? No one mentions the obvious? At least in my opinion. With the imminent release of MoP. When the first green item you pick up in the add-on is better then your precious hard earned raid epic. You have no incentive to play endgame and besides you have seen it all. So they spend their time derping the lowest skill-floor class a 24.

Cata and wrath where both ez mode epics compared to tbc.

 

[Masara]

Wasn't in a particularly great mood, but then was faced with this:

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Yes, that's right, four 24 Horde hunters, each on about 2k health. What fun!

The only saving grace was that they didn't farm.

Oh, and last night there was an Arathi Basin in which at least six of the Horde were 24s, including one who usually plays the dwarf version of his character on Alliance (a shaman) plus two priests, a rogue, a warlock and a hunter. We managed to win, but it was very tight.

 

[potatoez]

Yes, that's right, four 24 Alliance hunters, each on about 2k health. What fun!

Sadly, they did farm us.

Oh, and last night there was an Arathi Basin in which at least six of the Alliance were 24s, including one who usually plays the orc version of his character on Horde (a shaman) plus two priests, a rogue, a warlock and a hunter.We lost ofc

By using the same anecdotal evidence as you did i can say anything but it would be subjective. The grass is always greener on the other side as smb already mentioned. But the truth is that the number of 24s is roughly the same on the both sides. If the horde had a disproportionally higher number of 24s than the alliance that probably would mean that the horde wins much more BGs and dominates at the present time ,right?

 

[Holypowah]

By using the same anecdotal evidence as you did i can say anything but it would be subjective. The grass is always greener on the other side as smb already mentioned. But the truth is that the number of 24s is roughly the same on the both sides. If the horde had a disproportionally higher number of 24s than the alliance that probably would mean that the horde wins much more BGs and dominates at the present time ,right?

Horde needs more 24s. If both sides had no 24s then Alliance would dominate.

 

[potatoez]

Horde needs more 24s. If both sides had no 24s then Alliance would dominate.

LOL, The same phrase is used by one guy that i know.He is a nelf hunter named Chumlee. He sometimes logs on his 400 hp horde toons and tries to troll the horde in a BG chat. He usually says smth like this "I am here to fuk you up, guys. I will just stand in fr and do nothing. The horde is carried by 24s in EVERY Bg that they manage to somehow win, the horde are "scrubs withous any skill at all", and would never stand a chance against ally f2ps without "allmighty" 24s in a fair fight". And blah blah blah.
After venting his anger he afks out. Funny guy. He always puts a smile on my face

 

[Mrcer]

How to overcome 24s:

Step 1: Get your F2P Twink Best in Slot in every way.
Step 2: Find 4 other F2P Twinks who are also Best in Slot.
Step 3: Fine a random P2P to group you all.
Step 4: Make the random P2P Leave the group.
Step 5: Que up for a battleground

Profit.

PuG 24s > BiS F2P > PuG F2P

However majority of 24s are shitty geared. Most of the 24 flag carriers can't even break 3k hp even with rum and fort AND kings. The Average PuG 24 rogue has 1.4-1.6k hp.

Stop QQing and get your twink BiS nubwaffles.

 

[Billyballo]

(EU point of view)

Horde just need more ppl with brains.

Btw Masara, I think you should try a bit of horde with alliance having 5 x 1,5k hp hunters and horde 500 hp ppl most of the games.

Ps: After 3 games with those 24 me and my friend stopped quening, because we coulnd't see the point in it -- you do the same with your hunters heavy team or you wait 15 minutes more to quene again?

 

[epicf2p]

warning: this post was probably made by an alliance player.

 

[Kraud]

not just horde

 

[Franciska]

20-24* bracket is an xp off bracket thus being a twink bracket and this site being a winking website it seems approraite that there would be forum for it.

Your hatred for 24's isn't a good enough reason to remove 20-24's forum from the site.

Please also note that there are F2p forums and 20-24's forums.

*excuse my typos - using my blackberry.

24's magically appeared after eternal F2P came out. I fail to see why 24's needs guides to steamroll F2P's. Atleast make a decent counter argument to mine. They already have rediculous advantages and they act like the bracket was already there before eternal F2P, its sickening.

 

[Masara]

(EU point of view)

Btw Masara, I think you should try a bit of horde with alliance having 5 x 1,5k hp hunters and horde 500 hp ppl most of the games.

Ps: After 3 games with those 24 me and my friend stopped quening, because we coulnd't see the point in it -- you do the same with your hunters heavy team or you wait 15 minutes more to quene again?

Nah, I might enjoy some challenges, but I'm not that much of a glutton for punishment. Yes, there are plenty of Alliance hunters, and I too would prefer a better balance of classes/levels. Being beaten is one thing, being repeatedly beaten by the same guys just because they pay for the game seems fairly poor. I've mentioned to other players several times that one of the reasons for me playing in the way that I do and not gearing up better is because I don't want to overly dominate battlegrounds and make things unfun for the opposition - 20 twinks are often as disproportionately powerful as 24s, and I wouldn't want to go into a battleground and think that there were Horde players who look at me with the same level of contempt that some 24s inspire in 20s. When I played in 20-29 a few years back I could walk into a 0-2 thrashing, tell the weaklings to leave getting the flag to me and just concentrate on protecting ours and transform it into a win in ten minutes. It was fun to be looked on as some kind of invulnerable monster sometimes, but it wasn't good for the game in the broader perspective.

I get the impression that the reason that Alliance queues are longer is because there are more Alliance characters, so there's necessarily going to be a bit more potential variance in the teams - if I were stuck with the same invincible Alliance hunter squads every time I might consider dropping out I suppose, but I haven't noticed that particularly. I like having a strong group to be part of, but I have no problem whatsoever with taking on an equally strong group - the close games are the best, aren't they?

I've seen a lot of games in which there's a predominance of Horde hunters too. Whether that's a response to Alliance hunters or just randomness is another matter. Yet to encounter eight 24s in a WSG on either side, though.

 

[threesets]

The bracket was here before f2p. people were trying out the bgs once they dinged 20. You'd be surprised by how many trials there were testing out the game, when they were still 10 day trials