Yann
Legend
Most F2P's are content with playing the game for free.
Most paid accounts are content with the advantages they gain.
Both sides aren't content with the other side:
Free to play players want paid account players to strip down their enchants and level so that it's an even match.
Pay to play players want trial account players to pay to gain the enchants and levels that trials lack.
I'm explaining common sense here, and not meaning to insult. I like other members of the website to be able to understand the entire discussion. (Not intending to insult intelligence levels here.)
Most paid accounts are content with the advantages they gain.
Both sides aren't content with the other side:
Free to play players want paid account players to strip down their enchants and level so that it's an even match.
Pay to play players want trial account players to pay to gain the enchants and levels that trials lack.
I'm explaining common sense here, and not meaning to insult. I like other members of the website to be able to understand the entire discussion. (Not intending to insult intelligence levels here.)
Bestasky
Legend
That's called pay to win, pvp has nothing to do with it, but nontheless they call themselves just that ...
Bestasky
Legend
The thing your common sence is missing is the choice.....the choice that noone is pushed into making but makes it cause the ''facerolling'' is more appealing.They don't want the same chance as their opponent...why ? cause choice of paying is presented so they pay to have an advantage...easy as that
It only goes to show a person's character...in other words we can all pay for the game ( i myself have payed for it 5 years ) and now i choose not to pay cause i like the f2p bracket...
Yann
Legend
I literally just spelled all of that out in my last few posts
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The Saint
I won't like you
BS... I payed before f2p, and I'll keep paying till wow goes totally free to play.
I'm not going to make things harder on my self to make you happy. With the hunters, premades and ofc other p2ps about that would be stupid.
You do not own this bracket. call me what you like, I'll still do it my way. End of story.
The Saint
I won't like you
Oh, and if i was just playing 20-24 i'd stay f2p. I'm not, so i don't. If you want competition like you claim, pay the 50p per day and do rbg.
If you want to set up some competitive games vs other premades I'll gladly help set them up. problem is, that would actually mean you having nothing to blame, and that, that is truly scary.
If you want to set up some competitive games vs other premades I'll gladly help set them up. problem is, that would actually mean you having nothing to blame, and that, that is truly scary.
Rina
Legend
I hate to take sides like this but honestly, I don't think you can label a pay to play game as pay to win when they open an extremely limited free to play option.
level 24 twinks are no more pay to win then a level 90.
The only difference is 24s are made with the free trial accounts in mind.
The Saint
I won't like you
If i could speak to you without an argument...
You seem to forget wow is a gear dependent game, even more so at 90. Also, no you don't meet 85s, but you do meet countless quest geared 90s that do less dmg/healing than an 85 twink. Blizzard could easily fix this with ilvl scaling to... lets say 500 (most people are in 550gear) and it wouldn't effect pve in anyway, but they won't. They want people on a gear treadmill.
OP
OP
Conq
Guest
I think TI members need to lead an all out tweet assault and pester the shit out of blizz for twinks.
Bestasky
Legend
So what if you want it easier ( my my...now there's a real pvp-er )
So what if you'll do it your way - that's exactly what i'm talking about...you made an easy choice by deciding to roll a p2p against f2p's....
You're the type of person who would play a lvl 70 twink and then when it would be possible to go 4 lvl's higher, you would ! just so that you could have that little advantage over everyone else till others grabbed those 4 extra lvl's... and so on......
You want the advantage , i do not......you pay for it while i want to have 1:1 on my opponent - you do not ! - you want it easy ! rest is just pure BS !
And the fact you always have something to say changes nothing ! you only go a step deeper into your denial....
It's pathetic that your petty arguments come down to ''spelling'' or ''my playing or not playing other brackets'' - avoiding much ?
Allybeboba
Legend
An 85 will never meet a level 90 in a scaled BG. You are comparing apples and oranges.
That statement is no different than " Can I note a twinked out Trial at lvl 20 can feasibly beat a level 25 due to scaling, but...yeah..." You just can't compare the two..
Have a wonderful day!
Sweetsidney...
The Saint
I won't like you
Damn right i base my argument on you never being above 20. Because you talk about competitiveness, in a bracket that's never been competitive.
Allybeboba
Legend
Subscribers play smart, not hard. Of coarse subscribers are going to pick the low hanging fruit first.
It is smart to take the path of least resistance. Even a stream of water knows that.
Have a remarkable day.
Sweetsidney
It is smart to take the path of least resistance. Even a stream of water knows that.
Have a remarkable day.
Sweetsidney
Yann
Legend
I never said they would meet in a battleground. You put words in my mouth that were never spoken.
Stat scaling can cause an 85 to be able to feasibly best a 90 in a duel, perhaps I should have made that a wee bit more clear.
Also, for clarification, the gear difference between a level 20 and a level 25 is much smaller than that between an 85 and a 90.
I wish you luck, I have a lot of respect for you as a player and a person judging from what I've seen.
Allybeboba
Legend
That is exactly why the stat squish is happening. I am not sure if you have seen the graphs that Blizzard has presented concerning endgame stats and the way they are getting "out of control"? It is literally a snowball effect. Hopefully when they get smoothed out, they will balance the lower brackets a bit more. I just hope hesling does not get out of control. And this is speaking from a healers point of view. I also hope that skirmishes do not draw too much of the crowd away from BGs. I enjoy being able to hop on and get a few quick games in the little free time that I allow myself to play each week.
/cheers
Sweetsidney...