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Lil said:
Why is this the go-to answer? Are there any numbers to support this or just an opinion?

Flintlocke procs pretty frequently and I'd MUCH rather the huge increase in agi than +4 dmg since MM is all about burst.. Maybe I'm missing something?
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I've tested a BOA gun with the + damage scope, a BOA gun with Flintlockes (which procs for +30 agi), a BG crate gun with Gale Force, BG crate gun with force multiplier.

This is gonna sound insane but... the +4 dmg scope provides the same tooltip (and actual) dmg as flintlockes does when its proc'd. +4 dmg is worth +30 agi. (And its far, far better than a BG blue with force multiplier proc'd)

In other words, the +4 dmg is a permanent Flintlockes proc.

Side note, since I know it may interest you: This doesnt translate exactly to surv but the basic principle is the same. the +3 dmg and +10 agi weapon enchants provide roughly the same dps. + dmg slightly edged it out when I was testing but it was within a margin of error. The +10 agi boosted kill command dmg considerably though, so if you're looking for bursty, its your enchant of choice. It can also be applied without gametime, while +3 dmg cannot.

Lil said:
Also Voc your "request" for me updating the WG rules to accommodate you playing one of the more OP classes is stupid and just shows how bad of a player you are. Keep dodging competitive games and keep being irrelevant. Don't waste your time replying, I just had to say this after laughing at your post(s).
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fucking lol.
 
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Chops said:
I've tested a BOA gun with the + damage scope, a BOA gun with Flintlockes (which procs for +30 agi), a BG crate gun with Gale Force, BG crate gun with force multiplier.

This is gonna sound insane but... the +4 dmg scope provides the same tooltip (and actual) dmg as flintlockes does when its proc'd. +4 dmg is worth +30 agi. (And its far, far better than a BG blue with force multiplier proc'd)

In other words, the +4 dmg is a permanent Flintlockes proc.

fucking lol.
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But... What about the extra 100 dmg from the critter??
 
Lil said:
But... What about the extra 100 dmg from the critter??
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Doesn't proc enough for it to be worth, and it's only 100 damage which is nothing really.

Flintlockes is still viable, it's just inferior to scope.
 
Lil said:
Also Voc your "request" for me updating the WG rules to accommodate you playing one of the more OP classes is stupid and just shows how bad of a player you are. Keep dodging competitive games and keep being irrelevant. Don't waste your time replying, I just had to say this after laughing at your post(s).
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you have nothing to say i see, not surprised coming from a huntard, tell me why no arc mages, one rdruid, one bal druid with me on bal, one mm hunter per side is "stupid"

this only shows one thing, you are scared to play these rules
 
Kaxle said:
Coming from the person requesting the rules catered around them before they'd play?
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use your brain, which comps would give you the best, most competitive games?

any comps including arc mage/mm hunt/ bal druid stack or mirror something like this:

disc/holy priest
rsham
mw monk
rdruid
bal druid
mm hunter
spriest
outlaw rog
surv hunter
destruction warlock
 
Lil said:
Why is this the go-to answer? Are there any numbers to support this or just an opinion?

Flintlocke procs pretty frequently and I'd MUCH rather the huge increase in agi than +4 dmg since MM is all about burst.. Maybe I'm missing something?

Also Voc your "request" for me updating the WG rules to accommodate you playing one of the more OP classes is stupid and just shows how bad of a player you are. Keep dodging competitive games and keep being irrelevant. Don't waste your time replying, I just had to say this after laughing at your post(s).
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Here's some numbers from my hunter: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/bleeding-hollow/fapah
https://www.wowhead.com/item=57563/south-gate-blunderbuss&bonus=5675 (16 agi 6.0 DPS) with Force Multiplier vs
https://www.wowhead.com/item=3078/naga-heartpiercer&bonus=3998 with Diamond-Cut Refractor Scope

Both comparisons are Aimed Shot tooltips with pet summoned

Outside BG: 628 Aimed Shot, 651 Aimed shot with 8 agi 5 crit proc with epic wep
Outside BG: 678 Aimed Shot with naga heartpiercer with +4 scope

Inside BG: 771 Aimed Shot, 811 Aimed shot with 13 agi 8 crit proc with epic wep
Inside BG: 818 Aimed Shot with naga heartpiercer with +5 scope

https://www.wowhead.com/item=4407/accurate-scope (+2 scope in bg) might be worth testing on an epic 16 agi wep, but I doubt its better than +5 scope
 
in order to put +4 scope on Naga Heartpiercer for a hunter, do you have to party sync and que BD with someone who's higher lvl? do you have to be on the same realm? do you put it right after it drops in the dungeon? otherwise, how can you put a scope on that bow?
 
ersatZYX said:
in order to put +4 scope on Naga Heartpiercer for a hunter, do you have to party sync and que BD with someone who's higher lvl? do you have to be on the same realm? do you put it right after it drops in the dungeon? otherwise, how can you put a scope on that bow?
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done within the 2h trade window
 
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