Druiddroid
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Twinkytoes said:
and they have over 10k hks
obviously terrible!
HK's and skill positive correlation?
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and they have over 10k hks
obviously terrible!
Secclusion
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The correlation is there like I was saying before 1 doesn't necessarily prove the other. For those of you who have your twink(s) as your primary focus, Bravo, My hat goes of to you. For me twinking is like an in game hobby. My main is still my primary focus.
I happen to be stuck in a realm whose twinks for the most part don't premade. I'm trying to take an active role in consolidating good twinks and to change that. For the same reason the Group arenas are not competitive. I would rather win every WSG than win every Arena. While winning every Arena may be fun for others, it just isn't fun for me. Maybe someday when my main focus wanes I'll come party with the "Big Boys" in Ruin.
I happen to be stuck in a realm whose twinks for the most part don't premade. I'm trying to take an active role in consolidating good twinks and to change that. For the same reason the Group arenas are not competitive. I would rather win every WSG than win every Arena. While winning every Arena may be fun for others, it just isn't fun for me. Maybe someday when my main focus wanes I'll come party with the "Big Boys" in Ruin.
Quara
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If I've learned anything from taking piano lessons for 12 years (other than how to play piano, smartass) it's that bad habits grow if they are left unchecked. That is to say, if you are playing/practicing/repeating something - and this goes for anything in life - incorrectly, your mind will just scab over the most glaring errors and mistakes. Your brain likes order and familiarity, so if your errors are left unchecked you will grow accustomed to them.
PuG battlegrounds, in any bracket, are a spawning pool for these sorts of nasty habits: misunderstandings of mechanics, complete ignorance to goals and strategy, overconfidence, lack of self-discipline, a dependency on your keyboard to turn, and playing the Hunter class are all examples of this putrid land. The more you play in these environments the more enshrouded with incompetence you will become. I could argue that the people with more HKs tend to be worse than those who refrain from such silliness.
The only way to really improve in a field is to continue to challenge yourself. The moment you stop asking yourself, "what can I learn from this?" or "where did I/we go wrong?" you will stop your development. And with no challenge, how could you bother asking yourself that? Keyboard turning around the flag room and then just spamming your Damage-keys onto anything that is red will totally work in PuGs. But as soon as you walk into a real game - arenas or premades - you'll be seriously asking yourself, "what went wrong!? I did everything right...how are they doing _____ so much better than me??" You know you've all had that feeling in your WoW career (and in other times in life,) and it sucks.
But how do you think that your opponent was able to do everything so much more efficiently than you? Because they have learned through the long, grueling process of Learning from Defeat. Facing challenges. They are forced to look for the quickest, most efficient and most economic paths to victory, or else they will Lose. there is NOTHING in pugs that comes close to that requirement and level of cognizance.
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PuG battlegrounds, in any bracket, are a spawning pool for these sorts of nasty habits: misunderstandings of mechanics, complete ignorance to goals and strategy, overconfidence, lack of self-discipline, a dependency on your keyboard to turn, and playing the Hunter class are all examples of this putrid land. The more you play in these environments the more enshrouded with incompetence you will become. I could argue that the people with more HKs tend to be worse than those who refrain from such silliness.
The only way to really improve in a field is to continue to challenge yourself. The moment you stop asking yourself, "what can I learn from this?" or "where did I/we go wrong?" you will stop your development. And with no challenge, how could you bother asking yourself that? Keyboard turning around the flag room and then just spamming your Damage-keys onto anything that is red will totally work in PuGs. But as soon as you walk into a real game - arenas or premades - you'll be seriously asking yourself, "what went wrong!? I did everything right...how are they doing _____ so much better than me??" You know you've all had that feeling in your WoW career (and in other times in life,) and it sucks.
But how do you think that your opponent was able to do everything so much more efficiently than you? Because they have learned through the long, grueling process of Learning from Defeat. Facing challenges. They are forced to look for the quickest, most efficient and most economic paths to victory, or else they will Lose. there is NOTHING in pugs that comes close to that requirement and level of cognizance.
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Druiddroid
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like 2 years ago being a keybinder meant you were the cream of the crop. now it just means you're average or better. the game has changed skillwise so much for twinks and highend alike (i would imagine). and it's because of this paragraph
Rofan
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Yes to all if you look at me Purgelawl is my third twink - and fourth character to cross the 10k mark. My (60-70) mage had around 15k kills at the time. my 59 druid had 10k and my (19-29-39) hunter has around 17k. I've been playing since Open Beta, being experienced just happens when you play for that long..
The maturity factor is the only one I do not see it representing. I saw a bunch of fucking skids and queers in Cyclone and a lot of them had over 10k kills.
The maturity factor is the only one I do not see it representing. I saw a bunch of fucking skids and queers in Cyclone and a lot of them had over 10k kills.
Sosaye
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I think that IN GENERAL a correlation can be made that over 10K kills you have a more skilled player with better gear. But, it depends on the class, also. What I mean is: with my 19 warrior, there is no way he can survive without BiS items, arena trinket, etc. And he has to be skilled to take on 2 rogues and any hunter. He definitely is an "old school" twink with over 10K kills.
But my 19 hunter can get great kills and be top in kills and damage as I slowly build him up. With no fishing hat, leggings of the fang and arena trinket yet, he is a glass cannon that competes with or betters most others for damage and kills. And I'm still learning how to play the big ol' slow bovine hunter well.
Maturity has nothing to do with anything. I constantly see extrememly immature players who are very good at what they do and have huge HK's. From farming the opposite side and camping their GY to arguing with your own team about some stupid little thing, they may be good at what they do, but are no fun to play with. BTW, if you are doing either of the above, grow up, cap the f'n flag so that the other team will que again and stfu. Once the gates come down, BG chat is for getting the job done. Period. And if you are "farming" for anything inside a BG, please turn experience back on, scrub.
This is just my opinion, your results may vary.
But my 19 hunter can get great kills and be top in kills and damage as I slowly build him up. With no fishing hat, leggings of the fang and arena trinket yet, he is a glass cannon that competes with or betters most others for damage and kills. And I'm still learning how to play the big ol' slow bovine hunter well.
Maturity has nothing to do with anything. I constantly see extrememly immature players who are very good at what they do and have huge HK's. From farming the opposite side and camping their GY to arguing with your own team about some stupid little thing, they may be good at what they do, but are no fun to play with. BTW, if you are doing either of the above, grow up, cap the f'n flag so that the other team will que again and stfu. Once the gates come down, BG chat is for getting the job done. Period. And if you are "farming" for anything inside a BG, please turn experience back on, scrub.
This is just my opinion, your results may vary.
Omgimarogue
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quara said:
can you play fur elise?
jailbot
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;3
i find this as a general rule accurate.
but as for "always" no.
I seen a 19 hunter on my BG with a bunch of shit wrong, and i mean like a bunch. only thing they had right was fishing hat as i recall. they had like 22k hks.
but other then that i guess they were a "nice/mature " person and they knew how to play.there was how ever a bunch of rogues with like 10k+ hks on my battle group who had never learned how to actually gear and they just stam stacked/ gy camped.
i find this as a general rule accurate.
but as for "always" no.
I seen a 19 hunter on my BG with a bunch of shit wrong, and i mean like a bunch. only thing they had right was fishing hat as i recall. they had like 22k hks.
but other then that i guess they were a "nice/mature " person and they knew how to play.there was how ever a bunch of rogues with like 10k+ hks on my battle group who had never learned how to actually gear and they just stam stacked/ gy camped.
Omgimarogue
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Quara said:Too easy
I'm working Chopin's Polonaise "Heroique" Op. 53 in A Flat at the moment
im a cellist muhself irl
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Grabco
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Spite said:
You are missing the point completely. What do you mean by "my latest twink". this means that you probably have over 10K HK's on another twink OR together your combine twink HK total is over 10K if not more ( I believe this was in the OP discussion as an exception that should be considered). I would be very surprised if you beat a 20K HK warrior with no prior 19 twinking experience.
I would also be interested in what class you were killing this 20K warrior (that was trying to advance the flag across mid) with. Becuase he was probably not trying to fight back. Thanks.
Omgimarogue
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Grabco said:
idk, he did say 'fought and killed'
Omgimarogue
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call me a nub cakes...but whats EA?