Guild vs Guild, 29 vs 20s, rules altered for fair gameplay!!

Allybeboba said:
What HB is saying, is a 29 guild taking on a 20 guild has nothing to gain and everything to lose. In that respect he is 100% percent correct.
You could correlate it with a male fighting a female. If the male wins, he won versus a girl(the percieved weaker adversary). Nothing gained...
If he loses, well, he gets ridiculed by his peers by being beaten by a girl. He is in a no win situation. So why even take on the challenge?

/cheers
Sweetsidney
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This was the initial point that was made when viewing this scenario, "a man fighting a woman"... the difference between this and a wargame between 29s and 20s is that a 29 can alter everything to have 100% equity with a 20. But a 29 losing abilities and switching out BiS gear kinda kills the gameplay, that's why my initial suggestion was to have 20s have different rules than a regular wargame. So to give 20s the option of what would be required, in terms of adding stuff to regular wargames to make it an equal match.

And I don't see it as a lose lose situation for 29s, that's kinda missing the whole point, its about the competition and using various tactics to achieve a balance that both opponents can agree on. There will always be underdogs and favorites, that's life in an nutshell. It's about ultimate supremacy, about stopping all the small talk between 29s and 20s and putting words where mouths are!! Who is the champion!?!? the underdog 20s who can crumble any and all guilds 20 or 29, or the min max 29ers who can fight while the opponent 20s are playing by rules in their favor?!?!

Twinking is built on having gear.enchants etc to beat the average player, 29 vs 20 are happening in BGs any and all the time, 29s being in a lose lose situation according to you even if there aren't any wargames. Wargames will just make it a bit more equal and focused.

That's just my opinion though, my goal is simply to enhance the competition in the bracket where there are hardly full 20 and 29 guilds as before.
 
paynefull said:
This was the initial point that was made when viewing this scenario, "a man fighting a woman"... the difference between this and a wargame between 29s and 20s is that a 29 can alter everything to have 100% equity with a 20. But a 29 losing abilities and switching out BiS gear kinda kills the gameplay, that's why my initial suggestion was to have 20s have different rules than a regular wargame. So to give 20s the option of what would be required, in terms of adding stuff to regular wargames to make it an equal match.

And I don't see it as a lose lose situation for 29s, that's kinda missing the whole point, its about the competition and using various tactics to achieve a balance that both opponents can agree on. There will always be underdogs and favorites, that's life in an nutshell. It's about ultimate supremacy, about stopping all the small talk between 29s and 20s and putting words where mouths are!! Who is the champion!?!? the underdog 20s who can crumble any and all guilds 20 or 29, or the min max 29ers who can fight while the opponent 20s are playing by rules in their favor?!?!

Twinking is built on having gear.enchants etc to beat the average player, 29 vs 20 are happening in BGs any and all the time, 29s being in a lose lose situation according to you even if there aren't any wargames. Wargames will just make it a bit more equal and focused.

That's just my opinion though, my goal is simply to enhance the competition in the bracket where there are hardly full 20 and 29 guilds as before.
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Well you let me know when you want to get your lvl 29 and your other 9 lvl 29 friends and I know i can easily find some 20s to play you. Since your cool with it.



Im sure Burg , Gokku or another lvl 20 guild or even a pug would love to play you on your lvl 29 Guild Free to prey.


#YouCanDoIt
 
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<Nagaz WIth Attitudez> is up for the challenge! I do think it would be a lot of fun. Just give it time and we can think of rules, spell restrictions, ect. I do think it is a neat and different idea!

You can add me on BTag if you would like. ßurg#1313. I would love to discuss this further because I really like the idea of it. As a guild we have talked about trying to challenge <GG Twinks> or <SupaNova> and try to be the test dummies to see how this would go.
 
Honey badger said:
Well you let me know when you want to get your lvl 29 and your other 9 lvl 29 friends and I know i can easily find some 20s to play you. Since your cool with it.



Im sure Burg , Gokku or another lvl 20 guild or even a pug would love to play you on your lvl 29 Guild Free to prey.


#YouCanDoIt
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Well firstly, as you previously did...you read my post wrong!! This is not a post about issuing a challenge, it is about suggestions that would create a fair playing field for 20s v 29s. However your condescending instigation was noted.

Secondly <Free to Prey> isn't ready for such wargames as most of these other guilds that are already established. Still establishing a group, but when we do....you'll be notified.
It's amazing how easily something with good intentions can be twisted to a negative angle. I expected better from you Honey Badger....

@Burg sounds amazing, we'll set up something as soon as my squad is complete bud!!
 
Lawl....
First you scathe HB stating this post is not "about issuing a challenge". And then you turn around and take up Burg's "challenge".
Neither of which were really "challenging" you at all.

/cheers
Sweetsidney
 
Allybeboba said:
Lawl....
First you scathe HB stating this post is not "about issuing a challenge". And then you turn around and take up Burg's "challenge".
Neither of which were really "challenging" you at all.

/cheers
Sweetsidney
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There is a difference between doing a challenge with discussion on the topic at hand with respect to doing a wargame than straight up doing a wargame without any discussion as HB suggested.

HB just wanted a wargame played to try to illustrate his point of a wargame of this sort is a lose lose to a 29 guild. While Burt was down for discussing said rules and just wants to have fun with this approach. There is a difference here, and it's quite obvious.

HB = Honey BADger
Burt = Fun Moonkin

NB. This isn't about losing or winning but just straight up balanced competition and having fun.
 
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