Grandfathered should be removed

[livinadream]

lol anytime you ask blizz to fix something in the twink bracket whats the outcome, they fix it? or they fck it up even worse then before, if its not game changing why do you even give a sh!t, 'oww they should remove it coz i um i um i dont know its not like its game changing so i dont really know why i made this pointless thread' if its not game changing and it doesnt hardly change your stats dont ask them to fix what isnt broke coz blizz will end up going hmm qq'ing enough how about we just change it so bg's start from lvl 20 from now on 19's cry to much.



thread is useless for the sake of a few extra stats, gf'd gear just lets you see who made the twink a while ago like 'oh that hunter has that gear he's not one of these pos new huntards' lets your recognize someone whos played for a while and someone who is retarded and maybe you shouldn't rely on.



i was gonna make a point but its to early in the morning havent woken up yet.

 

[Dcm]

And i was sad i couldnt play 19s anymore? Lol...my bad

why would anyone be sad about not being able to play 19s.

 

[Deranger]

Blizz will not fix anything as there is nothing to be fixed.

 

[Firetruckk]

...whenever I want to make something new I cannot be fully BiS cause of these Jutebraid Gloves or Gutterblade, etc...

This, HIGHLY contradicts this statment:

First of all every noob can already BiS judging that 80% of noobs roll hunters and they do not need gfed gear to be BiS

Now, in your original post, you claim that because YOU can not personally obtain it, when making a new character, they should be removed because you are unable to achieve BiS, then you go on to say that players are easily able to obtain BiS.



Also, you say you have toons that have GF gear on them. That good and great. But what toons are you wanting to make that is 'annoying' you because GF items are not available? Most classes should be good to go, with current gear because according to you, most people can obtain BiS, without GF gear.



Also, it's not unfair in anyway, as the stat differences are minuscule. Secondly, some people actually might have earned their GF gear, IE: having to solo the quest due to a dead server, lack of help, persistence, etc. It's gear that has been carried throughout many of patches, and the stats were changed. Had the stats remained the same, (before the changes were made), would you still want them removed, because they would still be considered GF'd?

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Whenever I go to make a new twink, I think of the items I will need to get in my head; like inferno robe, jutebraid.. oh wait... I can't even get those? wtf is the point? so I end up not even making the toon.



edit: I agree that the bracket is in bad shape.

^This, Im quite sure everyone would like to try other classes and actually be BiS

That makes absolutely no sense, and is once again, contradictory...



Your post serves no point, or purpose. The only conclusion I can come up with, is that you are jealous of other players and classes that have the items, because when you want to make that particular class, you won't be able to obtain the items...



Solve your own problem. Delete the GF gear you have, play without them and go on as if they don't exist so next time you're at a character creation screen, you don't have to be 'annoyed' that the toon you are creating, is without GF gear. Have the mindset of a brand new player to the twinking scene. They only know what's available and in front of them. Getting BiS with the current gear is rather easy, and to them, they cannot get mad at something that they don't know exist(ed/s).



This exact proposal can be used for players with mains, that do not have BoA gear. A player that has been searching ENDLESSLY for a SF with no luck; unobtainable. A player that has fished weeks:months:YEARS; unobtainable.

 

[Morhi]

I have no GF gear. I have no problems with GF gear. BiS then compared to BiS now is not affecting the game. Teamwork and personal skills will always determine who ends on top. If a certain piece would be thát game changing, the stats should be adjusted accordingly.

 

[Shadez]

If you know how to play the class, its not going to hurt you that badly to not have some grandfathered items.

LMAO

 

[Skanktmonius]

Personally I think grandfathered items make twinking and the game more interesting. My rogue is my only toon with GF items and none are needed for BiS. I have a priest, paladin, and hunter and I'm fully content knowing they're Cata BiS.



So often players and Blizzard are so focused on balance that we eventually only gain balance by losing the interesting parts of the game that differentiate different players/classes. Balance is great and necessary, but not at the cost of making the game more dull and boring.

 

[yougotcriton]

most shortsighted idea ever. What about the people who worked for the origional ZG bear, or T3 gear, how about the black Quarji beetle. What of titles, should the Hand of Adal and Scarab Lord title be removed too? Paladins and warlocks would loose the mats the used to get their mounts, Compeditors tabards would be gone, and more non combat pets than i can recall.

 

[Orebrb]

I have a priest, paladin, and hunter.

Wasn't surprised at all to see those classes xD.







I had an acc pre Lich got hacked though and shut down all Gf gear down the drain, I don't care much cause haft of these kids with Gf gear earned it from being around their skill i'm sorry has still not changed for most of them. So i'll continue to outplay those with the Gear.8)



But i wouldn't mind an extra 15 stam to my FC set counting Jute, seal of argas, Deadskull and Steel- claps

Just would make me more dominant with that flag

 

[Curley]

I have all the gear respect this ownage

 

[Orebrb]

Is that !@# real???





This is how most people solve their Non- Bis problem, wouldn't suggest going this route though xD

 

[Yayo]

I have all the gear respect this ownage

Do you have an inferno's robe?

 

[notoriousthf]

The only stuff I have is [item]beetle clasps[/item] and [item]seal of wrynn[/item].

I envy everyone else that has all the other gear, but I don't think it's gamebreaking enough to make them OP to the point they should be removed.

If they got the gear legitimately, let them keep it. They deserve it. Others made their twinks late. That's their problem.

 

[Mazurati]

I have all the gear respect this ownage

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This isn't the same Curley from vengeance is it?

 

[Curley]

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This isn't the same Curley from vengeance is it?

No I'm emberstorm legend!

 

[Skanktmonius]

I have all the gear respect this ownage

Never a thread on this website without this kind of shameless self-promotion.

 

[Grabco]

First of all every noob can already BiS judging that 80% of noobs roll hunters and they do not need gfed gear to be BiS



Grandfathered gear is just an unfair advantage and please dont tell me they EARNED it, Im quite sure anyone have enough skills to do a 10 minutes quest

I tend to agree with you on this but I don't think it needs to be removed. Eventually Blizzard will implement changes and probably add full BOA gear that will replace all twink gear. In fact the only item I haven't heard BOA plans for are bracers and gloves and belt. Every other slot either has BOA or Planned BOAs. Not sure how I feel about full BOA gear but it would be similiar to what we see at higher levels (eg lvl 70's in full brutal gear)

 

[Kore nametooshort]

I have a few toons with Full GF'd Gear, but I do agree that it should be removed. it's just not fair.

This. Yes I earned my grandfathered gear at the time, but it doesn't mean others shouldn't be able to get them. It is an unwarranted advantage and I don't care what anyone says, you didn't earn the right to have that uncounterable advantage no matter how much you play.

 

[Turdel]

Meh grandfathered items aren't game changing just pure vanity, no need to have them removed.

I agree with this guy. I still use my Inferno Robe just for nostalgia, I probably should be wearing my BoA chest. I do have an advantage having Jutebraids, but seriously, 50 HP isn't game breaking. I should throw my new pants and BoA chest on though. I play 1 game/ day average at 19 now, so I don't really bother with optimizing my gear atm.

GF'd gear isn't game changing & pure vanity?....what are you dumb?



http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/bleeding-hollow/Igaveyouclap/simple



Just a few pieces of game changing GF'd gear on this one, not to mention Gutterblade & Chausses of Westfall among others.



Also this is just the most scrubbiest of topics I have seen on these forums, to say that you want GF'd gear to be taken away from players would just be the most disrespectful thing Blizzard could ever do to an old school player.



Imagine an Old School twink re-activating his account to find some of the slots on his twink are empty......but sooner or later there will be a BoA for every slot, & I won't be playing this game anymore by the time that happens.

 

[Dramatized]

I agree with Turdel; for a FC GF'ed items really are game-breaking.