Goohd
born good
Thanks man, blackened defias set scale really well. The boots scale the same with Fotl and prisoner shoes. The belt is BiS agility. And the best part blizzard put them back in the game so we can farm them!
EU+US Gear Scaling Index
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OP
OP
Hashbrowns
Legend
would you mind explaining the differences in those 2 items? like, how you go them, their scaling, and history of them. aswell, can you please explain how I, too, can get both lvl 7 and lvl 11 versions? thanks
I'm not 100% sure but I'll post what I know. They drop from 2 sources either unlocked from a battered chest (you need to pick pocket chest and open locks with silver keys from blacksmithing) or from the bird himself in Westfall (Vultros).
They both scale to the same stats in BGs. Because they are different items technically, you can equip both (although doing so is not very good). See http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f43/math-breakdown-rogue-weapons-63049/ first chart bottom right shows assassination with BiS MH (Vultros daggger and options for offhand)
yasueh
OG
Spent today working on the addon which grabs stats.
It will only grab data for items which are equipped or in your bags that you are capable of equipping (although it includes items you'd need a trade skill to equip, even if you don't have the skill, eg. Flying Tiger Goggles. I included code to exclude any engineering items that need over 100 skill). It won't scan other players, because that would be far more complicated, and a lot of them would be over 20, or badly geared anyway.
The following was generated while outside a BG (so isn't scaled), but gives an idea what the addon is capable of. The long numbers are a unique ID generated from everything inside the ["Item"] table, that way if bliz change scaling/stats a new entry will be generated, which will get its own first/last seen on dates (no contaminating data like wowhead does).
Still to do:
It will only grab data for items which are equipped or in your bags that you are capable of equipping (although it includes items you'd need a trade skill to equip, even if you don't have the skill, eg. Flying Tiger Goggles. I included code to exclude any engineering items that need over 100 skill). It won't scan other players, because that would be far more complicated, and a lot of them would be over 20, or badly geared anyway.
The following was generated while outside a BG (so isn't scaled), but gives an idea what the addon is capable of. The long numbers are a unique ID generated from everything inside the ["Item"] table, that way if bliz change scaling/stats a new entry will be generated, which will get its own first/last seen on dates (no contaminating data like wowhead does).
EquipmentScale_Variables = {
[1764073939] = {
["Item"] = {
["Intellect"] = "5",
["Name"] = "Garrosh's Pardon",
["Slot"] = "Finger",
["Stamina"] = "5",
["ItemID"] = "56709",
},
},
[1866374956] = {
["Item"] = {
["Intellect"] = "3",
["Name"] = "Tumultuous Cloak of the Sorcerer",
["Slot"] = "Back",
["Stamina"] = "3",
["Haste"] = "3",
["Armor"] = "4",
["ItemID"] = "51994",
},
},
[1755413916] = {
["Item"] = {
["Intellect"] = "2",
["Agility"] = "2",
["Name"] = "Brilliant Necklace",
["Slot"] = "Neck",
["Stamina"] = "1",
["Spirit"] = "2",
["Strength"] = "2",
["ItemID"] = "30419",
},
},
[3066813917] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["ItemID"] = "5970",
["Slot"] = "Hands",
["Armor"] = "4",
["Stamina"] = "4",
["Intellect"] = "6",
["Name"] = "Serpent Gloves",
},
},
[2427587822] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "3",
["Name"] = "Crystalline Cuffs",
["Slot"] = "Wrist",
["Armor"] = "3",
["Stamina"] = "3",
["Spirit"] = "2",
["ItemID"] = "14148",
},
},
[1300807248] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "5",
["Name"] = "Godfrey's Britches",
["Slot"] = "Legs",
["Armor"] = "6",
["Stamina"] = "7",
["Crit"] = "5",
["ItemID"] = "66011",
},
},
[574608837] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Stamina"] = "5",
["Name"] = "Enumerated Wrap of the Sorcerer",
["Slot"] = "Waist",
["Armor"] = "4",
["Haste"] = "5",
["Intellect"] = "5",
["ItemID"] = "51968",
},
},
[4247709554] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Flying Tiger Goggles",
["Slot"] = "Head",
["Armor"] = "6",
["Stamina"] = "4",
["Crit"] = "4",
["ItemID"] = "4368",
},
},
[2029754737] = {
["Item"] = {
["Stamina"] = "3",
["ItemID"] = "21933",
["Name"] = "Thick Bronze Necklace",
["Slot"] = "Neck",
},
},
[2970318308] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Enumerated Wrap of Stamina",
["Slot"] = "Waist",
["Stamina"] = "10",
["ItemID"] = "51968",
["Armor"] = "4",
},
},
[790823751] = {
["Item"] = {
["Intellect"] = "6",
["Name"] = "Seal of Argas",
["Slot"] = "Finger",
["Stamina"] = "5",
["ItemID"] = "24120",
},
},
[1406823315] = {
["Item"] = {
["ItemID"] = "21566",
["Slot"] = "Trinket",
["Stamina"] = "4",
["Crit"] = "10",
["Name"] = "Rune of Perfection",
},
},
[540305639] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "5",
["Name"] = "Feline Mantle",
["Slot"] = "Shoulder",
["Armor"] = "5",
["Stamina"] = "4",
["Spirit"] = "3",
["ItemID"] = "3748",
},
},
[3982656473] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Slime-Encrusted Pads",
["Slot"] = "Shoulder",
["Armor"] = "5",
["Intellect"] = "6",
["Spirit"] = "4",
["ItemID"] = "6461",
},
},
[2059198317] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Corpse Rompers",
["Slot"] = "Feet",
["Armor"] = "5",
["Stamina"] = "5",
["Intellect"] = "8",
["ItemID"] = "2168",
},
},
[3182360613] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Silk-Threaded Trousers",
["Slot"] = "Legs",
["Armor"] = "7",
["Stamina"] = "7",
["Intellect"] = "10",
["ItemID"] = "1929",
},
},
[3970549164] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["ItemID"] = "6908",
["Slot"] = "Waist",
["Armor"] = "4",
["Stamina"] = "7",
["Intellect"] = "7",
["Name"] = "Ghamoo-Ra's Bind",
},
},
[789585221] = {
["Item"] = {
["Name"] = "Insignia of the Horde",
["ItemID"] = "18851",
["Slot"] = "Trinket",
},
},
[3653535357] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "6",
["Name"] = "Noble's Robe",
["Slot"] = "Chest",
["Armor"] = "8",
["Stamina"] = "6",
["Crit"] = "9",
["ItemID"] = "63345",
},
},
[3191063372] = {
["Item"] = {
["Intellect"] = "8",
["DamageHigh"] = "39",
["Slot"] = "Two-Hand",
["DamageLow"] = "26",
["Stamina"] = "9",
["Name"] = "Dignified Headmaster's Charge",
["DPS"] = "11.21",
["Speed"] = "2.90",
["SpellPower"] = "39",
["Crit"] = "6",
["ItemID"] = "42947",
},
},
[722146920] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "10",
["Name"] = "Leech Pants",
["Slot"] = "Legs",
["Armor"] = "7",
["Stamina"] = "3",
["Spirit"] = "5",
["ItemID"] = "6910",
},
},
[3663056044] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["ItemID"] = "1486",
["Slot"] = "Chest",
["Armor"] = "8",
["Stamina"] = "7",
["Intellect"] = "10",
["Name"] = "Tree Bark Jacket",
},
},
[3819886334] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "8",
["Name"] = "Girdle of Nobility",
["Slot"] = "Waist",
["Armor"] = "4",
["Stamina"] = "3",
["Crit"] = "3",
["ItemID"] = "5967",
},
},
[3939877452] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Lucky Fishing Hat",
["Slot"] = "Head",
["Armor"] = "9",
["Stamina"] = "15",
["ItemID"] = "19972",
},
},
}
[1764073939] = {
["Item"] = {
["Intellect"] = "5",
["Name"] = "Garrosh's Pardon",
["Slot"] = "Finger",
["Stamina"] = "5",
["ItemID"] = "56709",
},
},
[1866374956] = {
["Item"] = {
["Intellect"] = "3",
["Name"] = "Tumultuous Cloak of the Sorcerer",
["Slot"] = "Back",
["Stamina"] = "3",
["Haste"] = "3",
["Armor"] = "4",
["ItemID"] = "51994",
},
},
[1755413916] = {
["Item"] = {
["Intellect"] = "2",
["Agility"] = "2",
["Name"] = "Brilliant Necklace",
["Slot"] = "Neck",
["Stamina"] = "1",
["Spirit"] = "2",
["Strength"] = "2",
["ItemID"] = "30419",
},
},
[3066813917] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["ItemID"] = "5970",
["Slot"] = "Hands",
["Armor"] = "4",
["Stamina"] = "4",
["Intellect"] = "6",
["Name"] = "Serpent Gloves",
},
},
[2427587822] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "3",
["Name"] = "Crystalline Cuffs",
["Slot"] = "Wrist",
["Armor"] = "3",
["Stamina"] = "3",
["Spirit"] = "2",
["ItemID"] = "14148",
},
},
[1300807248] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "5",
["Name"] = "Godfrey's Britches",
["Slot"] = "Legs",
["Armor"] = "6",
["Stamina"] = "7",
["Crit"] = "5",
["ItemID"] = "66011",
},
},
[574608837] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Stamina"] = "5",
["Name"] = "Enumerated Wrap of the Sorcerer",
["Slot"] = "Waist",
["Armor"] = "4",
["Haste"] = "5",
["Intellect"] = "5",
["ItemID"] = "51968",
},
},
[4247709554] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Flying Tiger Goggles",
["Slot"] = "Head",
["Armor"] = "6",
["Stamina"] = "4",
["Crit"] = "4",
["ItemID"] = "4368",
},
},
[2029754737] = {
["Item"] = {
["Stamina"] = "3",
["ItemID"] = "21933",
["Name"] = "Thick Bronze Necklace",
["Slot"] = "Neck",
},
},
[2970318308] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Enumerated Wrap of Stamina",
["Slot"] = "Waist",
["Stamina"] = "10",
["ItemID"] = "51968",
["Armor"] = "4",
},
},
[790823751] = {
["Item"] = {
["Intellect"] = "6",
["Name"] = "Seal of Argas",
["Slot"] = "Finger",
["Stamina"] = "5",
["ItemID"] = "24120",
},
},
[1406823315] = {
["Item"] = {
["ItemID"] = "21566",
["Slot"] = "Trinket",
["Stamina"] = "4",
["Crit"] = "10",
["Name"] = "Rune of Perfection",
},
},
[540305639] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "5",
["Name"] = "Feline Mantle",
["Slot"] = "Shoulder",
["Armor"] = "5",
["Stamina"] = "4",
["Spirit"] = "3",
["ItemID"] = "3748",
},
},
[3982656473] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Slime-Encrusted Pads",
["Slot"] = "Shoulder",
["Armor"] = "5",
["Intellect"] = "6",
["Spirit"] = "4",
["ItemID"] = "6461",
},
},
[2059198317] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Corpse Rompers",
["Slot"] = "Feet",
["Armor"] = "5",
["Stamina"] = "5",
["Intellect"] = "8",
["ItemID"] = "2168",
},
},
[3182360613] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Silk-Threaded Trousers",
["Slot"] = "Legs",
["Armor"] = "7",
["Stamina"] = "7",
["Intellect"] = "10",
["ItemID"] = "1929",
},
},
[3970549164] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["ItemID"] = "6908",
["Slot"] = "Waist",
["Armor"] = "4",
["Stamina"] = "7",
["Intellect"] = "7",
["Name"] = "Ghamoo-Ra's Bind",
},
},
[789585221] = {
["Item"] = {
["Name"] = "Insignia of the Horde",
["ItemID"] = "18851",
["Slot"] = "Trinket",
},
},
[3653535357] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "6",
["Name"] = "Noble's Robe",
["Slot"] = "Chest",
["Armor"] = "8",
["Stamina"] = "6",
["Crit"] = "9",
["ItemID"] = "63345",
},
},
[3191063372] = {
["Item"] = {
["Intellect"] = "8",
["DamageHigh"] = "39",
["Slot"] = "Two-Hand",
["DamageLow"] = "26",
["Stamina"] = "9",
["Name"] = "Dignified Headmaster's Charge",
["DPS"] = "11.21",
["Speed"] = "2.90",
["SpellPower"] = "39",
["Crit"] = "6",
["ItemID"] = "42947",
},
},
[722146920] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "10",
["Name"] = "Leech Pants",
["Slot"] = "Legs",
["Armor"] = "7",
["Stamina"] = "3",
["Spirit"] = "5",
["ItemID"] = "6910",
},
},
[3663056044] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["ItemID"] = "1486",
["Slot"] = "Chest",
["Armor"] = "8",
["Stamina"] = "7",
["Intellect"] = "10",
["Name"] = "Tree Bark Jacket",
},
},
[3819886334] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Intellect"] = "8",
["Name"] = "Girdle of Nobility",
["Slot"] = "Waist",
["Armor"] = "4",
["Stamina"] = "3",
["Crit"] = "3",
["ItemID"] = "5967",
},
},
[3939877452] = {
["Item"] = {
["ArmorType"] = "Cloth",
["Name"] = "Lucky Fishing Hat",
["Slot"] = "Head",
["Armor"] = "9",
["Stamina"] = "15",
["ItemID"] = "19972",
},
},
}
Still to do:
- Add some way to store 'first seen on' and 'last seen on' dates.
- Have it trigger on entering a BG/Arena.
- Disable completely if you aren't level 20.
- Implement sharing of data between players and merging databases.
- Show additional tooltips with scaled values alongside existing tooltips.
- Store text for on equip, on use and chance on hit (need to cover cases where thare's more than one of these lines).
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Crystalpall
the F2P PvEr
Tryptozzar
Legend
Explain yourself. Mob and drop rate.
Kincaide
Legend
Looks great Yasueh! Thanks so much for working on this.
LennywBT
SpeeDIO
Is their scale-- the same ?
Goohd
born good
It drops from Defias Overseer (there are only two of them) in deadmines. I think the drop chance is about
2% for legs and gloves but im not sure about the recently added ones. Im pretty sure you can get the whole set cuz ive seen every one of them in the auction house. Im still currently farming.
Kincaide
Legend
That could simply be people coming back to the game due to the new expansion, auctioning items from their bank. If you personally get a confirmed drop of something other than gloves or legs, please report back. After the hundreds of overseers I killed to get the gloves to drop, I'm definitely burned out on that.
Tryptozzar
Legend
Legs and gloves drop. I have farmed them for a friend personally. I was more interested in the armor, boots and belt.
Tryptozzar
Legend
It's probably that. Ask a rogue how knows the overseer bug to help you farm them.
Kincaide
Legend
Oh that's how I ended up doing it in the end. After I learned about that, I powered through it until the gloves dropped. I think I got upwards of 8 or 9 pants to drop before that, all in that one day. Thanks for looking out for me though; everyone with a BM monk should know about that technique!
ColAngus
Grandfathered
I have 8 belts in the bank that I'm starting to put in the AH. That doesn't mean they still drop, but it would be cool if they did.
ColAngus
Grandfathered
Then you probably don't want to hear about them dropping on my second run since I've been back, right? I could use another pair of legs though, to make another complete set.
Kincaide
Legend
Hehe, well random is random. I've had a Keefer's Angelfish drop on a character's fifth cast, and I got my Sea Turtle in about 45 minutes. So I've gotten my share of good roll karma
But now back to the regularly scheduled thread topic.
Bop
Remember the Treeline
Yeah :/ I just assumed because I saw them everywhere.
It would seem that it's just the influx of players returning to the game.
OP
OP
Hashbrowns
Legend
This is fantastic thank you. I will be putting to to good use for sure.
I'm about 90% done with the auto updates for gear. Now when you start F2PDev it pulls a few very small text files from the internet and update it's entries If you are offline or can't connect for whatever reason it will just use what it has. If we have items to add to the program I can just bump those text files and everyone will be up-to-date next time they start, no more need to redownload an entire new version for gear updates...
I have some more work on that and the splash screen that goes with it and a few other things. It's getting there...
I'm definitely looking forward to utilizing your list... this is a way cleaner way to do things.
Snowjobs
Fluffy
Are you still looking to include a theory crafting section ? I think a good way to address different gear for classes would be to take the stat weightings I find in the breakdowns and then use those to find the "best set for effective health" where you input a desired health or effective health and then the addon will select a set that maximizes the effective str of your gear while meetin your Stam requirements.
Just take the class and spec to get the weighting. Then convert all crit and haste ect to str for a total str then use some logic to find what we want sorry for rambling on my grandparents are unbareable and I'm Suprised I've been able to think this much .