EU+US F2P picture thread

Celax said:
Sometimes I wonder why they bother having level restrictions for instances.

Not only would it be neat for exploring and seeing what one can get away with, it'd also be neat to try and take on higher level content with twinked characters.


Hell, 40 level 20 F2Ps getting together to kill some trash mobs in Vanilla raids would be entertaining.
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I'm certain 5 F2Ps could down vanilla raid bosses. 4 F2Ps could clear trash in Escape from Durnholde, so I think bosses would be doable too.
 
Crystalpall said:
I'm certain 5 F2Ps could down vanilla raid bosses. 4 F2Ps could clear trash in Escape from Durnholde, so I think bosses would be doable too.
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You mean if we were to bring back the world dragons and such into modern game, as they were in Vanilla, without buffs, and have them against current F2P?

I forget the mechanics of all the vanilla world bosses, to be entirely fair. But I am quite sure one of them, I believe Ysondre, would not be doable by 5.


Chops said:
I think the hang up is that Blizzard seems very bent on giving players a sense of progression through the leveling process. And if I'm being honest with myself, I genuinely support that even if it means F2P have less content to engage with. From a story telling perspective it makes sense.

It's the reason you cant deal with the world affecting questlines of Blackrock Mountain and its various raids until you deal with the local threats of the Defias or Lord Godfrey. As a progressive narrative, it just makes sense.

What I would like to see (and I think is coming in a few xpacs) is setting up pre-req quest lines. So you can go adventure in STV when you hit lvl 30 if you want. But if you complete the questlines in Duskwood that breadcrumb to STV, you can unlock STV regardless of what level you are. And if, while leveling in STV, you hit 40, you can choose to go to Badlands. OR you can complete all the quests in Loch Modan/Wetlands that kinda set up the Uldaman dungeon and you unlock the Badlands, even if your level 20.
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Yeah, that is entirely, entirely it. They have always been in that mindset, and that is the main reason they were so hesitant for years on the idea of expansion locked servers. It's also why they have, for a very long time, focused extensively on end game, and not had much worry about imbalanced game play while leveling. You look at how easy leveling is now, and how many ways there are to get experience easier (Heirlooms, items, etc) and the fact you can buy level boosts...It's very clear they are focused almost entirely on an end game experience.
 
Celax said:
You mean if we were to bring back the world dragons and such into modern game, as they were in Vanilla, without buffs, and have them against current F2P?

I forget the mechanics of all the vanilla world bosses, to be entirely fair. But I am quite sure one of them, I believe Ysondre, would not be doable by 5.
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No, what I meant was if we could zone in to, say, Molten Core, I think a team of 5 F2Ps would be able to defeat Ragnaros
 
Raganaros might be possible.

The knockback would still hit pretty hard, and most his abilities do a decent amount of damage.
 
Crystalpall said:
No, what I meant was if we could zone in to, say, Molten Core, I think a team of 5 F2Ps would be able to defeat Ragnaros
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I dunno man. Didnt vanilla tanks have something like 8k health? I could maybe push half that in full stam gear.

And Rag was a 40 man raid. Even if the tank could take the damage, im not sure the 2 dps (because youd absolutely need two healers) would be able to actually kill him before the healers went oom.

I'd love to try but i think Rag might be overly optimistic
 
Chops said:
I dunno man. Didnt vanilla tanks have something like 8k health? I could maybe push half that in full stam gear.

And Rag was a 40 man raid. Even if the tank could take the damage, im not sure the 2 dps (because youd absolutely need two healers) would be able to actually kill him before the healers went oom.

I'd love to try but i think Rag might be overly optimistic
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Everything is squished. You’d be able to tank the hits on Holy pally (so not even tank spec) + 2 healers + 2 hunters
 
Well. considering it took more than that from the guild 50 to do it. I still say it seems optimistic.

I would be interested to see how many 20s it would take to down Doom Lord Kazzak and Doomwalker.
 
Crystalpall said:
Everything is squished. You’d be able to tank the hits on Holy pally (so not even tank spec) + 2 healers + 2 hunters
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When they did the big scaling patch a few months ago and made dungeons harder they also made the raids harder. They still hit really hard even on 60s, I think you would struggle with this. I think it would still be a cool idea removing lvl restrictions on instances to see how far we can push our twinks.
 
Lluyd said:
When they did the big scaling patch a few months ago and made dungeons harder they also made the raids harder. They still hit really hard even on 60s, I think you would struggle with this. I think it would still be a cool idea removing lvl restrictions on instances to see how far we can push our twinks.
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And considering it was already difficult-ish to do with a handful of level 50s, I don't see level 20s being able to do it without potentially near full raid group.
 
Celax said:
And considering it was already difficult-ish to do with a handful of level 50s, I don't see level 20s being able to do it without potentially near full raid group.
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Well this is post scaling. I do however imagine that it was very easy and could be 5 manned back when we could enter raids.
 
Celax said:
Well. considering it took more than that from the guild 50 to do it. I still say it seems optimistic.

I would be interested to see how many 20s it would take to down Doom Lord Kazzak and Doomwalker.
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Do you have Discord Celax?

Because the bosses you listed could be an interesting option for the future Outland raid I'm planning, in addition of the Fel Reaver.
 
Embu said:
Do you have Discord Celax?

Because the bosses you listed could be an interesting option for the future Outland raid I'm planning, in addition of the Fel Reaver.
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I do! And I'm open and interested in doing such and playing on EU servers. :)
 
Not anything special, but I also picked up the Selfie Camera on my EU Account ;)
Europe is not safe now..........:p
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Wait, we can do Ahune this year?
 
ohti said:
ye lvl 20 +
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I'll have to hop on for this. I haven't played in a few weeks. This means I have some achieves I can snag. :3
 
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