F2P and 5.4

Oh teacher, me me me! That's the way it usually goes. Putting up a test balloon, see how it goes, then put out the bigger bait. And the less popular games end up with "f2p all the way".
 
Tyramissoux said:
Oh teacher, me me me! That's the way it usually goes. Putting up a test balloon, see how it goes, then put out the bigger bait. And the less popular games end up with "f2p all the way".
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True, point taken. Though a game like WOW is alway evolving.
 
Wish they'd come up with their own ideas to make this game the special little plum it was in classic.

They stole most of the ideas from classic from other MMorpgs....
 
Tyramissoux said:
In Blizzard's case, "evolving" is filled with "stealing from other games" than with "creating own stuff". It's sad. Wish they'd come up with their own ideas to make this game the special little plum it was in classic.
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Klongo said:
Wish they'd come up with their own ideas to make this game the special little plum it was in classic.

They stole most of the ideas from classic from other MMorpgs....
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To be honest nearly everything ever created has stolen something from another.

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Tyramissoux said:
In Blizzard's case, "evolving" is filled with "stealing from other games" than with "creating own stuff". It's sad. Wish they'd come up with their own ideas to make this game the special little plum it was in classic.
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in this world today people steal ideas and make them better, Steve Jobs said if my brain tells me correctly,"A great artist steals".
 
Mesikämmen said:
It's not like fully BiS p2ps with full 5.4 chants will be running around the gulch in groups of 10 in every game instantly when 5.4 hits... Just try it out and see, probably the decent f2ps will still stand a good chance against most 24s, and nothing's gonna change that much. P2Ps had the upper hand before, they have it now, they will have it in the future.

Hardly any of 24s even right now are even near bis, why'd they be in 5.4 when some of the best enchants cost thousands of gold? 24s generally don't do too well against somewhat coordinated groups anyways, they're not gonna suddenly absorb some magical gladiator r1 powers when patch changes and they get a few chants more to crutch on.
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True dat....!
 
Mesikämmen said:
It's not like fully BiS p2ps with full 5.4 chants will be running around the gulch in groups of 10 in every game instantly when 5.4 hits...
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not instantly, but most of the good 24s are in twinking guilds with PLENTY of resources to fund full enchants on most, if not all, of their active twinks
 
Frostymax said:
not instantly, but most of the good 24s are in twinking guilds with PLENTY of resources to fund full enchants on most, if not all, of their active twinks
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Yes the good ones will have them no doubt.
 
Frostymax said:
This being the scary part, im really not looking forward to getting ambushed by rogues with ~1104 AP ~60% ~20% haste
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Is that ap with a mongoose proc? Or where are you getting that number?
I will be looking forward to ambushing with that much AP! Haha I'm sure it will get sorted out though.
 
grathlong said:
Is that ap with a mongoose proc? Or where are you getting that number?
I will be looking forward to ambushing with that much AP! Haha I'm sure it will get sorted out though.
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for this i used Capias's AP/crit/haste since hes pretty much glass canon and honeybadger was too much trouble to armory.
the numbers were with a double mongoose proc, and didnt take into account 24 agi from the agility pots

edit: mongoose doesnt stack, my bad. the numbers would only be slightly lower with a mongoose/dancing steel combo
edit:nvm that^ you can get a double proc, im just being retarded
 
Frostymax said:
for this i used Capias's AP/crit/haste since hes pretty much glass canon and honeybadger was too much trouble to armory.
the numbers were with a double mongoose proc, and didnt take into account 24 agi from the agility pots

edit: mongoose doesnt stack, my bad. the numbers would only be slightly lower with a mongoose/dancing steel combo
edit:nvm that^ you can get a double proc, im just being retarded
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Oh ok cool! I'm kinda thinking bgs for a while in 5.4 will just be whoever gets the proc first sadly.
 
grathlong said:
Oh ok cool! I'm kinda thinking bgs for a while in 5.4 will just be whoever gets the proc first sadly.
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im going to be more worried about combat tbh. its getting buffed and with the longer time between engagment and burst for combat increases the likelyhood of procs by the time of evic. looking forward to 2k evic's already
 
Frostymax said:
im going to be more worried about combat tbh. its getting buffed and with the longer time between engagment and burst for combat increases the likelyhood of procs by the time of evic. looking forward to 2k evic's already
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I have been hearing that assassination is going to be op with the elemental force procing so fast unless that was changed.
Evisc with mongoose procs will be pretty much insta kills tho (in combat). I also am thinking hunters will be behind with no enchants on their guns/bows.
 
Oneshot20 said:
in this world today people steal ideas and make them better, Steve Jobs said if my brain tells me correctly,"A great artist steals".
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It's just, Blizzard stole so shamelessly. When I returned to Wow for f2p, I thought "Dafuq - this is WAR 2!"
What makes me enrage about that all is that most people think Blizzard came up with the ideas and all the other games, from which they stole, just copied.

I remember one conversation with a roomie from a friend. That roomie was playing wow while that friend and I were playing warhammer online. One evening of discussion and a lot of beer later...

Me: "You know, we got a system to copy skins onto other items. It's pretty cool. I was wondering when Blizzard will steal that."
He: "Copying skins onto other items? We already got that."
Me: "What?"
He: "Yeah, it's called transmogrifying."
Me: *facepalm*
 
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