Tombrady
OG
It's only right with classic ending that we get one last best of thread, as nothing is more sacred to twinking than a best of circle jerk. As a premade logger with no characters even revered with WSG, my list is pretty much entirely from what I've seen in premades. Shoutout to walle for reminding me to do one of these.
Best Guild: Spacebar
An easy choice. No guild consistently stayed at the top the way Spacebar did. They did their high gravity training with Bowner in Havoc, and once they freed themselves of that weight they soared to the top. Some may choose to focus on the controversy of the CWS 3-hour slugfest and what could have been if CWS was the horde team, but Spacebar’s continued dominance after that, especially against peak GSC, easily puts them at #1 in my eyes.
HM: CWS
One of the tougher choices. An argument could be made for GSC if a guild’s peak is the focus, or even BTNE if longevity is what you value, but for me CWS takes it. Fairbanks CWS was an equal of any guild at the time. Even with losses to Havoc and NHF, watching the games you never felt that CWS wouldn’t win a series. After the transfer to Mankrik and some roster changes, CWS really took off and was far and away the best guild. Don’t think the gap between the 1st and 2nd best guilds was ever bigger in classic than it was at the time where CWS beat Havoc.
Biggest Disappointment: Infierno
Lot of guilds tried and failed to competitively premade, but one that stands out is Infierno. Infierno was a top 5 guild at the time of the Hass tourney and had a few key players to build around. Post Hass tourney, a transfer to Mankrik plus the addition of a few solid players would have been enough to solidify them as a guild capable of getting caps against anyone, but it wasn’t meant to be.
HM: GSC’s timing
GSC of course wasn’t a disappointment, as they were easily one of the best and most fun guilds to play. Sadly, GSC’s emergence occurred between the two 19 tourneys and at a time when 19 guilds were exploring 29s. With some better timing, we would have been treated to many more GSC premades that surely would have been some of the most enjoyable of classic.
Best O: CWS Lock/Mage
Not hard to imagine that an offense with potentially 2 of the top 3 players in classic playing control classes on it would be good, and that’s exactly what the Kashi/Reffy CWS O was. With Canna/Hass/Kenta/Jfine rounding it out, it was devastating, especially in the pre wargame world of only Ally vs. Horde games. It’s a shame CWS was so anti-splits, as this group would still be competing for the top spot today.
HM: The GSC double lock/mage. Forced spacebar to switch to a 5/5, enough said.
Best D: Scrappy and the boys
With Scrappy you’re already top 3, add in the rest and you easily got the best group of classic. They reached their peak when Mass moved on from that stupid ass Blackmirror name. With Wap operating the squad, you knew they were always good for a couple goofy looks that would throw off your O, and Woah was a consistent force on priest.
HM: JWL and his prince albert
Best Player: Scrappy
There’s no bigger gap between the 1st and 2nd best players of a class as there is between Scrappy and the next best druid, and that’s not even an indictment of the other druids, Scrappy is just that good.
HM: Kashi
A lot of viable options here, but Kashi was the best player on the best class in classic. Early classic he was BTNE’s biggest nightmare, making our O feel hopeless when he played D and crushing us when he was on O and in mid. Some other mages I think began to catch up post Hass tourney, but Kashi is still the gold standard.
Best of List:
Druid: Scrappy
There were some other great druids, but shoutout to PP. His progression from having never FCed to where he is as a druid now is one of the best stories of classic.
Hunter: Atax
Obviously biased, but I gotta go with the original king of twinking. Pizza’s rise is entirely thanks to the beatings he got during his formative years from Atax.
HM: Pizza, Wap
Rogue: Minimized
A controversial pick, given that he may not even be the best rogue in his guild, but Mini was the scariest rogue for me to come across in mid. Easily the hardest rogue to fake cast on, Mini’s sap game was also second to none. I wouldn’t argue against any of the honorable mention rogues being mentioned as #1, but I gotta give the crown to Mini.
HM: Drew, Cirran, Saxx, Hass
Warrior: Walle
Maybe the most polarizing player in classic, Walle has his fair share of haters. Don’t think any of them can doubt his ability though. The mix of his mechanics, planning/theory crafting, and leadership of spacebar easily makes him the best warrior and another contender for one of the top players of classic.
HM: HTM, Kentagana, Fix, Sillus (if he could do jumps)
Warlock: Reffy
Top 5, maybe top 3, player of all classic. Like scrappy, the gap between him and the others that play his class is gigantic. Also, like scrappy, he’s easily one of the most liked players of classic.
HM: GSC lock
Mage: Kashi
HM: Mass, Lucas, Lebbi
Shoutout to Lebbi, could start on any team in classic.
Priest: Plantz
Like rogue, a lot of players around the same level at the top. Giving plants the nod almost entirely because he made it through all of classic being Drew and Walles O-priest without having a major breakdown.
HM: Jfine, Blurz
Shaman: Kunz
Kunz gets the nod for me over someone like Canna just due to having played on the same O as him and seeing what he can do. The mormon machine would be a top player on any class, can’t wait to see him on mage in TBC.
HM: Canna
Paladin: Tomassobrady obviously
Don't get salty if you/your friends not on the list, I may have forgotten people or maybe they just aren't that good.
Best Guild: Spacebar
An easy choice. No guild consistently stayed at the top the way Spacebar did. They did their high gravity training with Bowner in Havoc, and once they freed themselves of that weight they soared to the top. Some may choose to focus on the controversy of the CWS 3-hour slugfest and what could have been if CWS was the horde team, but Spacebar’s continued dominance after that, especially against peak GSC, easily puts them at #1 in my eyes.
HM: CWS
One of the tougher choices. An argument could be made for GSC if a guild’s peak is the focus, or even BTNE if longevity is what you value, but for me CWS takes it. Fairbanks CWS was an equal of any guild at the time. Even with losses to Havoc and NHF, watching the games you never felt that CWS wouldn’t win a series. After the transfer to Mankrik and some roster changes, CWS really took off and was far and away the best guild. Don’t think the gap between the 1st and 2nd best guilds was ever bigger in classic than it was at the time where CWS beat Havoc.
Biggest Disappointment: Infierno
Lot of guilds tried and failed to competitively premade, but one that stands out is Infierno. Infierno was a top 5 guild at the time of the Hass tourney and had a few key players to build around. Post Hass tourney, a transfer to Mankrik plus the addition of a few solid players would have been enough to solidify them as a guild capable of getting caps against anyone, but it wasn’t meant to be.
HM: GSC’s timing
GSC of course wasn’t a disappointment, as they were easily one of the best and most fun guilds to play. Sadly, GSC’s emergence occurred between the two 19 tourneys and at a time when 19 guilds were exploring 29s. With some better timing, we would have been treated to many more GSC premades that surely would have been some of the most enjoyable of classic.
Best O: CWS Lock/Mage
Not hard to imagine that an offense with potentially 2 of the top 3 players in classic playing control classes on it would be good, and that’s exactly what the Kashi/Reffy CWS O was. With Canna/Hass/Kenta/Jfine rounding it out, it was devastating, especially in the pre wargame world of only Ally vs. Horde games. It’s a shame CWS was so anti-splits, as this group would still be competing for the top spot today.
HM: The GSC double lock/mage. Forced spacebar to switch to a 5/5, enough said.
Best D: Scrappy and the boys
With Scrappy you’re already top 3, add in the rest and you easily got the best group of classic. They reached their peak when Mass moved on from that stupid ass Blackmirror name. With Wap operating the squad, you knew they were always good for a couple goofy looks that would throw off your O, and Woah was a consistent force on priest.
HM: JWL and his prince albert
Best Player: Scrappy
There’s no bigger gap between the 1st and 2nd best players of a class as there is between Scrappy and the next best druid, and that’s not even an indictment of the other druids, Scrappy is just that good.
HM: Kashi
A lot of viable options here, but Kashi was the best player on the best class in classic. Early classic he was BTNE’s biggest nightmare, making our O feel hopeless when he played D and crushing us when he was on O and in mid. Some other mages I think began to catch up post Hass tourney, but Kashi is still the gold standard.
Best of List:
Druid: Scrappy
There were some other great druids, but shoutout to PP. His progression from having never FCed to where he is as a druid now is one of the best stories of classic.
Hunter: Atax
Obviously biased, but I gotta go with the original king of twinking. Pizza’s rise is entirely thanks to the beatings he got during his formative years from Atax.
HM: Pizza, Wap
Rogue: Minimized
A controversial pick, given that he may not even be the best rogue in his guild, but Mini was the scariest rogue for me to come across in mid. Easily the hardest rogue to fake cast on, Mini’s sap game was also second to none. I wouldn’t argue against any of the honorable mention rogues being mentioned as #1, but I gotta give the crown to Mini.
HM: Drew, Cirran, Saxx, Hass
Warrior: Walle
Maybe the most polarizing player in classic, Walle has his fair share of haters. Don’t think any of them can doubt his ability though. The mix of his mechanics, planning/theory crafting, and leadership of spacebar easily makes him the best warrior and another contender for one of the top players of classic.
HM: HTM, Kentagana, Fix, Sillus (if he could do jumps)
Warlock: Reffy
Top 5, maybe top 3, player of all classic. Like scrappy, the gap between him and the others that play his class is gigantic. Also, like scrappy, he’s easily one of the most liked players of classic.
HM: GSC lock
Mage: Kashi
HM: Mass, Lucas, Lebbi
Shoutout to Lebbi, could start on any team in classic.
Priest: Plantz
Like rogue, a lot of players around the same level at the top. Giving plants the nod almost entirely because he made it through all of classic being Drew and Walles O-priest without having a major breakdown.
HM: Jfine, Blurz
Shaman: Kunz
Kunz gets the nod for me over someone like Canna just due to having played on the same O as him and seeing what he can do. The mormon machine would be a top player on any class, can’t wait to see him on mage in TBC.
HM: Canna
Paladin: Tomassobrady obviously
Don't get salty if you/your friends not on the list, I may have forgotten people or maybe they just aren't that good.
