Easy Egg Collection for Mount

[Omgwtfsap]

Golden and Shau are just doing what they think what's right. People got to respect that.

Ok. Lets add another group of people in that same context.

24 twinks are just doing what they think what's right. People got to respect that.

Whats the difference between a 24 and a 20 botter?

Does it hurt yourself, your own gameplay or whatever when they do? I don't think so. They just get their items, all items you can get yourself, fast and without a lot of effort. Its about being F2P BiS, with our without some fancy title and mount.

Kind off. Imagine every Horde toon botting for BoAs. Every AP Horde with 12 bis toons. Slap in the face to what was once our ethical stance in rolling horde for the challenge and because we took the road less traveled. Now whats the difference between them (24s) and us. Doing something the way most people dont and cant but do it anyways because its easy and we can do it.

@ Imirak

The gearing grind was removed. The only "wrong" with this is the botting part. Automation of gy camping toons.
You can however grind BoAs manually the same way. Same manner same level of ease but with a person manually pressing the button. Remember multi-boxing? Controlling many toons via key broadcasting. Essentially you press one key that tells 4 toons to rezz and that same keypress on a different toon that keypress commands the toon to kill. What would be the difference of 6 friends doing it separately and self camping each other for easy gear. The one thing here is that some people dont see the time available for the gear grind as an achievement when they will never have the time. They can play their best all they want but if they cant put in the time because they rather work go to school and pay their bills than they will never gear a toon BiS in less than a month.

Also some people may not even manage a boa ever two weeks if rolling horde playing only 2 hours a day. Heck on a good week grinding more than 6 hours barely made me a BoA.

I did not think of automating the grind like that. But via his guide now pressing that button for 3 hours can be done by something else.

Yes automation is bad. Can i do this without keyspammer software? Of coarse we can thanks to multiboxing. What will be the difference then? Just me pressing the 1 button required to do so. Ill still do it manually because automating my key presses can result in a ban. I can still gy camp my toons for easy BoAs. Even faster thanks to the auto rezz macro.


Also, to those botters be highly warned. Your accounts can be banned so easily atm. Be very very very careful. You could be banned today if someone had the chance. All it takes is someone to dislike you and make a ticket about what you are doing and then Blizz investigating you and banning accounts if they detect you using automating software.

 

[Imirak]

Also, to those botters be highly warned. Your accounts can be banned so easily atm. Be very very very careful. You could be banned today if someone had the chance. All it takes is someone to dislike you and make a ticket about what you are doing and then Blizz investigating you and banning accounts if they detect you using automating software.

Once again, I have no problem if someone wants to bot or hack. It's not going to affect my enjoyment of the game. The tedium in WoW has been reduced drastically since the days of classic and BC when I played my main. And for trials with a level cap of 20, the tedium has become almost non-existent in comparison. This is why I think botting in a trial account is comical.

However, if this is still too much work for some people and they feel the need to violate the TOS by botting or cheating, that's between them, Blizz and anyone else in the game their actions directly affect.

But don't come on this forum and claim that it's not cheating. That's really what I am objecting to.

Botters and hackers are cheaters. If pointing out that simple and obvious fact bothers them so much, then that's an issue they need to internalize with themselves rather than trying to soothe their egos by publicly rationalizing it away.

 

[Omgwtfsap]

Once again, I have no problem if someone wants to bot or hack. It's not going to affect my enjoyment of the game. The tedium in WoW has been reduced drastically since the days of classic and BC when I played my main. And for trials with a level cap of 20, the tedium has become almost non-existent in comparison. This is why I think botting in a trial account is comical.

However, if this is still too much work for some people and they feel the need to violate the TOS by botting or cheating, that's between them, Blizz and anyone else in the game their actions directly affect.

But don't come on this forum and claim that it's not cheating. That's really what I am objecting to.

Botters and hackers are cheaters. If pointing out that simple and obvious fact bothers them so much, then that's an issue they need to internalize with themselves rather than trying to soothe their egos by publicly rationalizing it away.

Agree, not saying botting is right. I will not deny that. Yes its wrong. Yes attempting to rationalize botting is stupid.

Gy camping toons to get gear rather than bg grinding? idk pretty much multiboxing many toons except one toon happens to be from a different faction and ends up killing your other toons. Making world pvp happen.

 

[Freeranged]

Once again, I have no problem if someone wants to bot or hack. It's not going to affect my enjoyment of the game. The tedium in WoW has been reduced drastically since the days of classic and BC when I played my main. And for trials with a level cap of 20, the tedium has become almost non-existent in comparison. This is why I think botting in a trial account is comical.

However, if this is still too much work for some people and they feel the need to violate the TOS by botting or cheating, that's between them, Blizz and anyone else in the game their actions directly affect.

But don't come on this forum and claim that it's not cheating. That's really what I am objecting to.

Botters and hackers are cheaters. If pointing out that simple and obvious fact bothers them so much, then that's an issue they need to internalize with themselves rather than trying to soothe their egos by publicly rationalizing it away.

You know, i still didn't mention a single thing about using a bot in the OP. I was arguing strictly on the legality of WMT, which is by no means cheating. But I understand if you need to sidestep the argument because your initial claims are weak.

But, sure, botting is cheating. i wouldn't argue that. Just like a poor starving child would still be committing a wrong by stealing a bite of food. Are you really gonna let us undergeared "starving kids" rot to death in the horde GY because gaining a marginal competitive advantage is cheating? I know you don't often do this PvP thing, but that just ruins the experience for all 20 people involved.

 

[Omgwtfsap]

You know, i still didn't mention a single thing about using a bot in the OP.

But, sure, botting is cheating. i wouldn't argue that. Just like a poor starving child would still be committing a wrong by stealing a bite of food. Are you really gonna let us starving kids gonna rot to death in the horde GY because gaining a marginal competitive advantage is cheating?

stealing is stealing and cheating is cheating like you said. We dont really have to bot to gy camp toons. You can remove the botting but make it easy when doing it manually instead. You can remove the cheating part in the gy farming process.

because gaining a marginal competitive advantage is cheating?

you mean barely equalizing playing field against all easy to geared op classes in alliance.


Basically you can see the eggs better but you still have to run and get them correct?

 

[Imirak]

But, sure, botting is cheating. i wouldn't argue that. Just like a poor starving child would still be committing a wrong by stealing a bite of food. .

lol at rationalzing your cheating in a F2P video game by comparing yourself to a starving child stealing food. How pathetic, and I mean that in the literal sense of the word.

Give it up already.

 

[Deadvulcano]

This thread....

For people that don't want to support this you sure seem to bump this a lot. OP doesn't even talk about botting, you can just pm him for details.

About the offtopic botting: Grinding shouldn't exist in games. Its a poor excuse to prolong bad game design.

 

[allahkazam]

Also the problem with horde isn't the AP hordies who aren't BiS. It's our horde comrades from other servers that join BGs with 400 HP and no rez sickness.

I really don't care. I was being a douche last night but today I'm over it. Do what you want really.

 

[SallyG]

Also the problem with horde isn't the AP hordies who aren't BiS. It's our horde comrades from other servers that join BGs with 400 HP and no rez sickness.

I really don't care. I was being a douche last night but today I'm over it. Do what you want really.

Oooo sounds like we've played some games together! Maybe you remember me?

I'm always that male BE Paladin/Hunter/Warlock with res sickness and about 210 hp give or take.

I make your BGs exciting. Right?

*I kid*

 

[Jdoring]

Hey swagpurse is this guy imirak some secret employee from blizzard here just to grief players that are playing a game to have fun? Let me know if it's allllll up to him to let us know what we are doing is wrong because I didn't know he was responsible for enforing blizzards ToS on some random ass forum.

Imirak here's a hint. Blizzard doesn't need your help when it comes to putting people on time out.

 

[Earlwing]

Shau, he's arguing the fact that you're denying that botting is indeed cheating, and that you think people don't have the right to tell you so. Don't get so defensive about it, man. If you don't like people calling you out on it, don't do it.

 

[Jdoring]

I agree that it's "cheating" but I don't see why he has to make it a part of his agenda to let me know it's cheating. I never argued it wasn't cheating.

Also, I don't get why he cares. He won't ever see any of my toons in game by I don't like bgs. I have geared toons the hard way time and time again and it's not what I play the game for. Just like Mialo and Golden, I play for arenas and I want to play with more than 1 character without putting ridiculous amounts of WORK into a game..

 

[Earlwing]

Just let it go then. If he cares, he cares and you aren't going to change his mind. There's no point in arguing about it either way. Getting overly defensive about it is just silly. The opinion of player who you won't be interacting with shouldn't be a big deal. Continuing to defend yourself in this thread is just going to keep dragging it out. Just don't compare yourself to a starving child.

 

[allahkazam]

Also the grinding aspect only really exists because we are level 20s farming BoAs. Do it on a level 85 and you can grind the honor needed for a BoA pretty quickly. In a way we are circumventing the system by playing forever as free and dealing with whatever that brings.

Like I said, I apologize for being a douche yesterday.

 

[Theurge]

Not a huge fan of botting per se, but I think it's important to consider one thing before you report one:

 

[Purse]

This topic seems to be getting very heated.

I just want to restate once again - farm eggs how you like (whether manually or with the help of a 3rd party program, bot or something else) - it's your account, your own risks in the end. If you get caught, you do risk getting banned.

If you want to use the method provided by Freeranged, more power to you. You know the risks - just don't come here blaming someone else if a GM caught you doing so and had your precious F2P toon banned in the ass.

And ALL OF YOU COOL IT.

If someone wants to farm eggs by hand, that's their decision - if someone wants to farm eggs with 3rd party help, that's also their decision. Don't be all self-righteous and get into all this "right and wrong" argument. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.