DragonFlight lore (Hell is real)

[Magrain]

So.... ever since Arthas got disenchanted in Shadowlands and became a wisp, I basically just dropped WoW lore and never looked back nor even bothered to read/watch anything related. But to my dismay, I returned back like a heathen rodent expecting something.

Can someone tell me, why was budget Deathwing (Farrak) the final antagonist? And why did they recycle Deathwing? They legit reused the Shadow flame corruption gimmick on what is otherwise a lackluster rehash. And why is the last ever cinematic in Dragonflight a Soap opera where all the character's dialogue feels so off? WHY DID THEY EARN BACK THEIR IMMORTALITY IF THEY LOST IT FOR THE SAKE OF THE NEXT GENERATIONS OF MORTALS IN CATACLYSM??!?!?!111
And why is the Ice lady on our side?? And why is Malfurion missing in action every time there is trouble anywhere?? Saurfang's Axe made a mark on him??
I do like Ebonhorn's inclusion in the main story and as the Black Dragonflight though.

 

[Leek]

I dunno, *extends hand to dragon boss* gimme purple loot.

 

[CroyeTchor]

*Inhales deeply*

So...

Honestly DF lore is not that bad although very lackluster in several areas.

Can someone tell me, why was budget Deathwing (Farrak) the final antagonist? And why did they recycle Deathwing? They legit reused the Shadow flame corruption gimmick on what is otherwise a lackluster rehash.

Okay so Fyrakk is basically a side boss lore-wise. Iridikron (the earth Primalist we see get out with the shadow artifact) used him to try and get rid of us or at the very least make us lose time while he goes on his own plan. The shadowflame thing is basically Iridikron telling Fyrakk "Hey this is highly corruptive but it's strong so take it and go nuts mate" and while I agree it feels kinda lazy it does somewhat makes sense with them finding Deathwing's lab and all.
But yeah to put it simple Fyrakk is not even the "final boss" amongst the main antagonists of the expansion and the fact that they saved Iridikron for later is a very good idea in my opinion cuz he sure as hell is a better villain than Fyrakk which fells like "evil dragon 2.0" despite having some cool unique features (that axe tho).

And why is the last ever cinematic in Dragonflight a Soap opera where all the character's dialogue feels so off? WHY DID THEY EARN BACK THEIR IMMORTALITY IF THEY LOST IT FOR THE SAKE OF THE NEXT GENERATIONS OF MORTALS IN CATACLYSM??!?!?!111

I can't give them excuses on that. Best I can do is Cata's ending already made little sense, their powers and immortality did not even feel like they were gone and them regaining them is neat. BUT. The reason they gave is ass, the cinematic being "the power of friendship" makes no fucking sense and what could have been a cinematic with Fyrakk going absolutely berserk with aspects taking him down became... this. This cinematic is bad. I'm not gonna say worse than SL one but still.

And why is the Ice lady on our side??

Another thing that does not fully make sense. Vyranoth disagreed with Iridikron and Fyrakk so with the first gone and the other falling in madness she felt like her fight and values were not respected (but like, did she not spent thousands of years imprisonned, did that not gave her the slightest bit of extremism). With that it sort of makes sense that she'd leave Fyrakk's side. Joining the aspects tho ? Not so sure about it, they imprisoned her and they represent the very thing she wants to destroy. Let's admit she just teams up to stop Fyrakk because she only wants to free the world from the titan and not leave it destroyed in the process (which also makes sense), WHY DOES SHE STAY WITH US IN THE END ?? So again, some reasoning by Blizz but not all the way through.

And why is Malfurion missing in action every time there is trouble anywhere?? Saurfang's Axe made a mark on him??

Damn straight out boy Saurfang messed him up. More seriously free Malfurion. While the fact that there is a price to pay to get out of the Shadowlands makes sense I have two things to say. First, why is that to Malfurion to pay it for Ysera and second why would Ysera (the god dammed DREAM Aspect) need to pay anything to get to the dream. I mean I'm alwayq happy to see Ysera, her and her daughter were quite well written into the xpac but damn... give Malfurion a break. It was litteraly the Druid patch and we don't even see the most iconic Druid ever.


Overall DF lore is quite decent because there is so many world-building side quests, some with very very little stakes and this is amazing. The story through cinematics is fairly good too except the end, that one was bad.

While to be honest, coming out of SL would make the N'Zoth story in BFA look like LOTR, DF has some very good points for itself and I personnaly can't wait to see what they make of Iridikron (and Xal'atath too, develop on her and make her last more than an xpac as a main threat).

 

[Magrain]

*Inhales deeply*

So...

Honestly DF lore is not that bad although very lackluster in several areas.



Okay so Fyrakk is basically a side boss lore-wise. Iridikron (the earth Primalist we see get out with the shadow artifact) used him to try and get rid of us or at the very least make us lose time while he goes on his own plan. The shadowflame thing is basically Iridikron telling Fyrakk "Hey this is highly corruptive but it's strong so take it and go nuts mate" and while I agree it feels kinda lazy it does somewhat makes sense with them finding Deathwing's lab and all.
But yeah to put it simple Fyrakk is not even the "final boss" amongst the main antagonists of the expansion and the fact that they saved Iridikron for later is a very good idea in my opinion cuz he sure as hell is a better villain than Fyrakk which fells like "evil dragon 2.0" despite having some cool unique features (that axe tho).



I can't give them excuses on that. Best I can do is Cata's ending already made little sense, their powers and immortality did not even feel like they were gone and them regaining them is neat. BUT. The reason they gave is ass, the cinematic being "the power of friendship" makes no fucking sense and what could have been a cinematic with Fyrakk going absolutely berserk with aspects taking him down became... this. This cinematic is bad. I'm not gonna say worse than SL one but still.



Another thing that does not fully make sense. Vyranoth disagreed with Iridikron and Fyrakk so with the first gone and the other falling in madness she felt like her fight and values were not respected (but like, did she not spent thousands of years imprisonned, did that not gave her the slightest bit of extremism). With that it sort of makes sense that she'd leave Fyrakk's side. Joining the aspects tho ? Not so sure about it, they imprisoned her and they represent the very thing she wants to destroy. Let's admit she just teams up to stop Fyrakk because she only wants to free the world from the titan and not leave it destroyed in the process (which also makes sense), WHY DOES SHE STAY WITH US IN THE END ?? So again, some reasoning by Blizz but not all the way through.



Damn straight out boy Saurfang messed him up. More seriously free Malfurion. While the fact that there is a price to pay to get out of the Shadowlands makes sense I have two things to say. First, why is that to Malfurion to pay it for Ysera and second why would Ysera (the god dammed DREAM Aspect) need to pay anything to get to the dream. I mean I'm alwayq happy to see Ysera, her and her daughter were quite well written into the xpac but damn... give Malfurion a break. It was litteraly the Druid patch and we don't even see the most iconic Druid ever.


Overall DF lore is quite decent because there is so many world-building side quests, some with very very little stakes and this is amazing. The story through cinematics is fairly good too except the end, that one was bad.

While to be honest, coming out of SL would make the N'Zoth story in BFA look like LOTR, DF has some very good points for itself and I personnaly can't wait to see what they make of Iridikron (and Xal'atath too, develop on her and make her last more than an xpac as a main threat).

God damn, that is a respectable amount of lore retrospection. Honestly I didn't like Fryak at all, I guess it's a sacrifice worth making for the buildup to the earth primalist and Xal'atath. I was also surprised to remember that she was the legion artifact weapon for the priest class, and used in the N'zoth cinematic. Which kind of took me off guard, but I like the approach. However can't be too comfortable because there are many glaring issues to be addressed obviously. I also looked up his Axe, and god damn, that looks really good and made me smile that it's actually a legendary quality weapon. Thought they gave up on legendary drops/gear ever since Legion. As for the Icelady, yeah there should be some form of bitterness and resentment for the whole time being imprisoned but it is what it is. I really dig the whole idea that the Titans aren't really what we always thought they were, like something is fishy around them and how they safe guard this time-line specifically, as the Earthman said. (I can barely memorize their names so imma name them after their respective elements). I just hope at a certain point in the story, they don't retcon old lore which has been established to be good and ruin it, like Shadowlands, somehow retconning over 50 different lore bits that spanned 28+ years. Got a slight suspicion that Sargeras' lore might be retconed again.

Funny enough, about the LOTR story with BFA, the whole end cinematic of N'zoth's death and that Eye tower crumbling. Legit an Off-brand destruction of Sauron's tower. It speaks volumes that WoW's story has been downhill when BFA's story compared to the rest, is serviceable.

With that out of the way, I'm going to begrudgingly continue lore hunting ig. I can't even fight my own nature, I love reading lore stuff.

 

[CroyeTchor]

making for the buildup to the earth primalist and Xal'atath.

Yeah DF is TWW's hype man.

I also looked up his Axe, and god damn, that looks really good and made me smile that it's actually a legendary quality weapon.

I know right. Even in lore it's badass, cutting through the dream itself and level 12 Gnolls alike. Very little time to set it up yet so damn cool. They did a good job on this one.


Tbh you will have a lot of fun questing in DF. The main story is very decent (although maybe a bit cliché on the blue flight and the red flight basically serves as the story's binder and end up having very little). All flights have some good lore but that's not even the best part.

The side quests are awesome. From joyful to melancholic, badass to somewhat standard quests (as in doing simple non world-saving stuff), the zones are beautiful although it reaaally is too bad we cannot access the Emerald Dream, there is a ton of world-buiding, neat treasures or rares to find and even the dungeons are fantastic (New Uldaman is amazing haha). There is simple Tmogs -which is something we need more of- from quests and world drops and damn is the new prof system great.

As you said, lots of issues lore-wise, DF kinda felt like a side-quest to be honest but I have good hopes for TWW. They have set up a strong lore basis with characters that have the potential to last be they allies or foes and this is something that we were sorely lacking for the last few xpacs considering how many relevant lore characters were killed. We need a big bad villain since the Old Gods and Sargeras are "dead" and just the void ain't gonna cut it without a leading face (which I doubt will be Xal'atath but we'll see).


I'm in the same boat as you, love the lore and can't fight that nature haha ^^