Do you support the recent queue separation for the 20-29 bracket?

[Kracks]

29s are def more balanced class-wise and interesting than 20s stale hunter/healer meta. Ideally all the half geared f2ps would disappear so games would be more balanced overall. ive made at least one bis 20 of every class besides war and couldn't care less about any of them now. I don't understand the weird attachment issues people have with their 20s or why is everyone so mad again i dont have the energy to read through this entire thread.
[doublepost=1661940644,1661940027][/doublepost]Also tbh was rlly annoying updating gear on 20s (convincing gms for game time and what not and not being able to Q while subbed) /having to pay for transfers if you wanted to make a new 20. Way more expensive than making a 29.

 

[Epichealtime]

I will help by queuing all three of my accounts and not accept any pops and not rejecting them either. It seems these morons don't understand the reason we need levelers is so that we can convert them to new Twinks. Without the levelers the Twink bracket will eventually die without equal replacements for twinks who stop playing.
I am already getting simultaneous que pops on all three accounts and I'm not accepting.

My brother in Christ the game is old enough to vote

In your blind rage at non-f2ps you create distorted characterizations. You think 29s only exist to harass 20s. So of course, if it's all 29s, then they won't want to play anymore, right?

I just resubbed and rolled a 29, and I don't care at all if there's 20s in the games or not. I'd honestly prefer if everyone was 29 because 29s are more intriguing to play with/against. It's new and interesting.

Just played 3 games in a row, all 4 min or under queue pops (8-9pm PST), and each competitive til the end. They were enjoyable and felt less unbalanced than many of the games I played before the merge. And most players were 29s.

Of course, many games will be unbalanced. But overall, the full XP-off games are a fun concept to have re-emerge. I only see them being bad for:

• People who are unskilled and need levelers to stomp to feel good about themselves
• PvP focused vets who resist p2p and continue to queue their 20s into 29s while dwelling on the edge they lost rather than accepting their changed fortunes

So why weren't you playing 29s before?

 

[kewnoober]

"How dare you judge us for our actions and behavior?"

Yes, that is what has happend every single time.

You werent even paying? Fkin leech.

Dude, you can throw around all these words all you want, but youve played this game like a week, those of us that have been around for awhile and met a hundred people saying the same horseshit you are. We know its all just that, horseshit.

You are not new, you are not unique, you are just another dude trying to justify his 29 to himself, you can coat it all you want. Hundreds of you have passed through these forums and when the winds shift away from 24s/29s they are gone, and so will you.

Because you are just a fart in the winds of the 20s bracket.

Now please, shut the fuck up.

 

[Jointser]

"How dare you judge us for our actions and behavior?"

Yes, that is what has happend every single time.

You werent even paying? Fkin leech.

Dude, you can throw around all these words all you want, but youve played this game like a week, those of us that have been around for awhile and met a hundred people saying the same horseshit you are. We know its all just that, horseshit.

You are not new, you are not unique, you are just another dude trying to justify his 29 to himself, you can coat it all you want. Hundreds of you have passed through these forums and when the winds shift away from 24s/29s they are gone, and so will you.

Because you are just a fart in the winds of the 20s bracket.

Now please, shut the fuck up.

we don't need to justify 29s to anyone. everyone should make 29s if they wish.
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My brother in Christ the game is old enough to vote

So why weren't you playing 29s before?

maybe probably because 29s are completely dead before?

 

[Epichealtime]

we don't need to justify 29s to anyone. everyone should make 29s if they wish.
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maybe probably because 29s are completely dead before?

Completely dead? Now we must ask ourselves why... Because nobody wanted to face solely twinks. 20 was cheap and easy for anyone who wanted to beat up lvlers and uninitiated 20s. 29s would have required work to pop.

 

[Jointser]

Completely dead? Now we must ask ourselves why... Because nobody wanted to face solely twinks. 20 was cheap and easy for anyone who wanted to beat up lvlers and uninitiated 20s. 29s would have required work to pop.

well every xpoff bracket was dead anyways

 

[Epichealtime]

well every xpoff bracket was dead anyways

All but one. One many of these same players regularly took part in.

 

[Goesid]

Got a new lawnmower?

 

[Vasquez]

19xpoff cant be an alternative? I am just thinking about any solution...
Or is that in total dead stage?
Hunters dont get all of 20 get: rapidfire, wildfirebomb, strong pvp talents, etc.
I try to help, so dont throw me

 

[Goesid]

19xpoff cant be an alternative? I am just thinking about any solution...
Or is that in total dead stage?
Hunters dont get all of 20 get: rapidfire, wildfirebomb, strong pvp talents, etc.
I try to help, so dont throw me

Only if you can convince the 10 community to let you farm them.

 

[JadeFire]

We are just running into the same issue as 20s. Right now till about 4pm cst. It's just alliance floating S-tier trash... Superkill just carrying random button masher mage trash that get to play because he is in front of them casually throwing 200k with 30 kills.

Honestly the sad part is that if we had 1 29 hunter on till about 4pm CST horde would probably just win every game... that's how sad the balance is, but it is the reality of the bracket. But, we have a bunch of 20s that get 1 shot.

Then from about 4pm cst to 5cst... the Horde get on and there are just some face roll games where the alliance just afk/leave.

Need to find a way to make sure the teams are even, or it's just gonna be the same as the 20s.

The people make things good or bad. Blizzard is not a factor because they don't care.

 

[selkit]

queue times when 20s had their own queue in bfa were way better than now. i honestly joined 6 games since the change and all of them were stomps.

 

[Dysphoria]

Dude, you can throw around all these words all you want, but youve played this game like a week, those of us that have been around for awhile and met a hundred people saying the same horseshit you are.

Lol, per usual, you are all ad hominem and random off-point argument that doesn't actually address what I was saying.

Don't need to justify 29s, their existence at the top of the bracket and the fact that the majority of players queueing are playing them does that already. And I'm not new to twinking. Started mid-wrath, which I've mentioned.

If you think my points are invalid, why don't you actually address their content for once instead of dodging them and lobbing childish insults?

So why weren't you playing 29s before?

Haven't played WoW in a few months.

 

[Grimzee]

I just don't get it I see all these 20s complaining that the 29s that they are beating them up and its unfair but the 20 one shots the lvler is fine this create a more balanced game play...time to move on adapt and reroll 29s if you want to be competitive and if you don't it's on you

 

[JadeFire]

Lol, per usual, you are all ad hominem and random off-point arguments that don't actually address what I was saying.

Don't need to justify 29s, their existence at the top of the bracket and the fact that the majority of players queueing are playing them does that already. And I'm not new to twinking. Started mid-wrath, which I mentioned.

If you think my points are horseshit, why don't you actually address them for once instead of relying on lobbing childish insults?


Haven't played WoW in a few months.

People don't have to offer intelligent arguments anymore they can just use the emotes instead of words that have been placed there as a courtesy to mentally ill children (somebody probably contacted the ADA and said that the forums were too "difficult") or just use low brow humor that gets one of the other morons to chuckle (which by forum rules 27-b subparagraph 36alpha automatically invalidates all of your points no matter how well articulated or factually based).

 

[Dysphoria]

People don't have to offer intelligent arguments anymore they can just use the emotes instead of words that have been placed there as a courtesy to mentally ill children (somebody probably contacted the ADA and said that the forums were too "difficult") or just use low brow humor that gets one of the other morons to chuckle (which by forum rules 27-b subparagraph 36alpha automatically invalidates all of your points).

Lol, exactly

 

[Goesid]

Lol, per usual, you are all ad hominem and random off-point argument that doesn't actually address what I was saying.

Don't need to justify 29s, their existence at the top of the bracket and the fact that the majority of players queueing are playing them does that already. And I'm not new to twinking. Started mid-wrath, which I've mentioned.

If you think my points are invalid, why don't you actually address their content for once instead of dodging them and lobbing childish insults?

You seem to think youre something new is all, youre the same person weve seen come around here talking about this stuff and when the people 9 levels below you are gone so will you be. I dont have to spend time on your arguments because they are old news, been there done that, its like the third rodeo you just werent here before. Im simply here to yell at idiots because I enjoy it.


By all means, continue to jusify 29s to yourself.

The first one is very easy. You really did all the leg work on that one.

• People who are unskilled and need f2ps to stomp to feel good about themselves
  
  
  
• PvP focused vets who resist p2p and continue to queue their 20s into 29s while dwelling on the edge they lost rather than accepting their changed fortunes
  
  Because its the 20s brackets, sooner or later the 29s will be gone, they always are. How it will end this time we dont know yet. Maybe the parasites will eat the host, maybe blizz will change something. I have no clue, but some people wont adapt to a temporary fad.
  
  

  Lol, exactly

  
  agreeing with Jadefire is a slippery slope, youd know that if you were anything but a mayfly.

 

[Rhaellia]

No, I do not support the change. I think 29s are for weenies.

Now, which one of you lovely 29s are looking for some gear? I got some spicy stuff!

[US] WTS 29 Epics (Singing Crystal Axe, Blade of Wizardry, Don Santos) | XPOff

 

[Dysphoria]

The first one is very easy. You really did all the leg work on that one.

• People who are unskilled and need f2ps to stomp to feel good about themselves
  
  
  
• PvP focused vets who resist p2p and continue to queue their 20s into 29s while dwelling on the edge they lost rather than accepting their changed fortunes
  
  Because its the 20s brackets, sooner or later the 29s will be gone, they always are. How it will end this time we dont know yet. Maybe the parasites will eat the host, maybe blizz will change something. I have no clue, but some people wont adapt to a temporary fad.

That's your response to my argument? Lol.

The bullet list was for who the bracket would be bad for. So, you swapped levelers with f2ps in my first point. Are you saying it will be bad for unskilled people in this bracket who want to stomp 20s? Because the levelers are gone but the 20s keep queueing, so if they want to vs them, they'll succeed and (potentially) have a good time.

Also, are you equating f2p players with levelers in how unskilled someone needs to be to stomp them? 20s can still be gamechangers rn, as most are skilled players. In most cases, a truly skilled 20 can beat an unskilled 29. A skilled 29, that's a different story.

On point two, again, I was talking about who the bracket would be bad for right now. That's unrelated to your rambly point about sooner or later maybe blizz will change something and that this is a temporary fad. Which it may or may not be, because as you said, you have no clue.

And, honestly, this change could stick. Every other bracket has x9 at the top. Maybe f2p dominion was the fad.

agreeing with Jadefire is a slippery slope

Doesn't matter who said it, the statement was on point.

 

[Grimzee]

You know also if there wasn't 20s there will be no 29s since pretty much they won't get games so just stop quing until they give up if people dislike 29s that much