Do you support the recent queue separation for the 20-29 bracket?

Do you support the recent queue separation?

  • Yes, I think the 20-29 bracket is currently in a better state than before

  • No, I think it's worse than before


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Just stop queuing. Let it die. once it dies blizz might pay attention.

You can help by creating and removing starter edition accounts from your battle net. Cite the queue times as reason and the 29s/ multi account queuers.

report the multi account queuers.
 
Being able to play meme builds against the levelers was fun as well. Against the twink stacked teams though - #gylife
Pretty telling. Why you think anything you say can be taken serious with such a statement. You literally validated every argument in this threat against crying 20s. Your meme builds are gone. Your yolo q and smash days are gone. You will either face 20 twinks or overpowered 29s that meme on you like you did on lvlers. You are just on the receiving end now. Thats hard to accept but its a fact. As sad as it might be for 20s. But there is no moral highground for any 20 twink.
Overall its still early in the change. Good games are there and probably develop more. Can it die? Sure. But it can also offer more fun and competitive games than before. Time will tell but most casuals get lost by the time things get more intense. 10 yolo stomp games in a row are fun but if the tradeoff is 7 shit games for 3 really competitive ones most people in 20s take the 10 stomps. Always been like that. Not judging but it is how it is…
 
Just stop queuing. Let it die. once it dies blizz might pay attention.

You can help by creating and removing starter edition accounts from your battle net. Cite the queue times as reason and the 29s/ multi account queuers.

report the multi account queuers.

I will help by queuing all three of my accounts and not accept any pops and not rejecting them either. It seems these morons don't understand the reason we need levelers is so that we can convert them to new Twinks. Without the levelers the Twink bracket will eventually die without equal replacements for twinks who stop playing.
I am already getting simultaneous que pops on all three accounts and I'm not accepting.
 
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Overall its still early in the change.

Curious how DF will be with the talent tree system and reorganizing of abilities (dont know much on that tho, admittedly) but who's to say that it will be so severely lopsided one the xpac hits? If 20 are only a little worse than 29 it could be less /wrist.

And they can still play fo free. COPIUM

Again, not sure what is changing so it could be way off... maybe our resident alphas could level a 29 or two to investigate.
 
Curious how DF will be with the talent tree system and reorganizing of abilities (dont know much on that tho, admittedly) but who's to say that it will be so severely lopsided one the xpac hits? If 20 are only a little worse than 29 it could be less /wrist.

And they can still play fo free. COPIUM

Again, not sure what is changing so it could be way off... maybe our resident alphas could level a 29 or two to investigate.

I have already leveled a druid and played with a 29. This is nothing more than a stunt to force people into paying for what they already get for free. Free to play communities have reached their critical mass so Blizzard has skimmed the cream off the top in a money grab. Just in time to get people interested in buying the expansion pack that free to play won't buy or need.
 
Starter accs' (linked) or full starter accs' lvl20 characters also join 20-29 bracket or the old one?
 
Pretty telling. Why you think anything you say can be taken serious with such a statement. You literally validated every argument in this threat against crying 20s. Your meme builds are gone. Your yolo q and smash days are gone.

Pretty telling. Why you think anything you say can be taken serious with such a statement - outing yourself as a meta whore who plays for wins over fun. You literally validated every argument in this threat against fist-pumping 29s. Your premade stomps and queues are numbered - enjoy it while you can.
 
outing yourself as a meta whore who plays for wins over fun. You literally validated every argument in this threat against fist-pumping 29s. Your premade stomps and queues are numbered - enjoy it while you can.
Yea sure… You dont get it. If I was the clinical mass/or minority that in your eyes is coming out of nowhere to roll a 29 and ruin your day, my premade stomps and queues wouldnt be numbered they just recently started to exist and I would enjoy every minute of it.

You cant dominate lvlers with offspecs now. I feel for you. It sucks because that clearly affects your way to approach this game. But that doesnt change the fact that what lvlers have been to you, you are now for 29s. You dont have any moral base to cry about the changes as much as they suck for you. Thats my point.
 
base to cry about the changes

Found it:

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Wont be long before they start selling the excuse "it's the only way to compete with 29!!!111" instead of the usual "I mained hunter forever so it's ok for ME to play one..." Not like 20 is the first bracket to lose levelers, or become them.
You're about 10 years too late on that prediction
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Pretty telling. Why you think anything you say can be taken serious with such a statement. You literally validated every argument in this threat against crying 20s. Your meme builds are gone. Your yolo q and smash days are gone. You will either face 20 twinks or overpowered 29s that meme on you like you did on lvlers. You are just on the receiving end now. Thats hard to accept but its a fact. As sad as it might be for 20s. But there is no moral highground for any 20 twink.
Overall its still early in the change. Good games are there and probably develop more. Can it die? Sure. But it can also offer more fun and competitive games than before. Time will tell but most casuals get lost by the time things get more intense. 10 yolo stomp games in a row are fun but if the tradeoff is 7 shit games for 3 really competitive ones most people in 20s take the 10 stomps. Always been like that. Not judging but it is how it is…
Uninitiated 20s may as well be levelers. It's not nearly as if everyone is a twink in the bracket
 
2, games are more competitive than before. the average quality of players has gone up significantly. i like competitive games. i tried around 5 games so far while gearing up, all of them were close.
Haha Glance I literally lol’d reading this.
I wouldn’t call losing 85% to 110% health in a single Aimed Shot exactly competitive.

I think the problem is more that Blizz has buggered PvP in the lower levels.
The change wouldn’t bother me so much if they had cared to adjust scaling and what not so it didn’t feel like such a crapfest.

From here, my opinion is the only way to fix the F2P experience would be to allow F2P to scale right up to 50 or even 60. Leave the restrictions in place but at least PvP will feel better. But then again, even when I played end game, Blizz seemed only interested in Raiders and PvP only ever got token adjustments.

I’ve lost some serious motivation for the game right now. I think to myself, what’s the point of running dungeons or farming gear if PvP is so daft.

Even dungeon scaling could do with increased difficulty or allowing Heroics etc.

I’ve got my fingers crossed that DF brings something more to the F2P experience. I know if I was trying a game where mobs were dying trivially and I was being 1-shot in bg’s…… wouldn’t have much attraction for a new player. Blizz will need to fix this or they will lose potential new players.

Can only hope DF brings something fresh!
 
More people making 29s isnt the salvation for the bracket its the end of it. If too many people make 29s, 29s arent gonna want to play it anymore.
In your blind rage at non-f2ps you create distorted characterizations. You think 29s only exist to harass 20s. So of course, if it's all 29s, then they won't want to play anymore, right?

I just resubbed and rolled a 29, and I don't care at all if there's 20s in the games or not. I'd honestly prefer if everyone was 29 because 29s are more intriguing to play with/against. It's new and interesting.

Just played 3 games in a row, all 4 min or under queue pops (8-9pm PST), and each competitive til the end. They were enjoyable and felt less unbalanced than many of the games I played before the merge. And most players were 29s.

Of course, many games will be unbalanced. But overall, the full XP-off games are a fun concept to have re-emerge. I only see them being bad for:
  • People who are unskilled and need levelers to stomp to feel good about themselves
  • PvP focused vets who resist p2p and continue to queue their 20s into 29s while dwelling on the edge they lost rather than accepting their changed fortunes
 
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In your blind rage at non-f2ps you create distorted characterizations. You think 29s only exist to harass 20s. So of course, if it's all 29s, then they won't want to play anymore, right?

I just resubbed and rolled a 29, and I don't care at all if there's 20s in the games or not. I'd honestly prefer if everyone was 29 because 29s are more intriguing to play with/against. It's new and interesting.

Just played 3 games in a row, all 4 min or under queue pops (8-9pm PST), and each competitive til the end. They were enjoyable and felt less unbalanced than many of the games I played before the merge. And most players were 29s.

Of course, many games will be unbalanced. But overall, the full XP-off games are a fun concept to have re-emerge. I only see them being bad for:
  • People who are unskilled and need levelers to stomp to feel good about themselves
  • PvP focused vets who resist p2p and continue to queue their 20s into 29s while dwelling on the edge they lost rather than accepting their changed fortunes

"How dare you judge us for our actions and behavior?"

Yes, that is what has happend every single time.

You werent even paying? Fkin leech.

Dude, you can throw around all these words all you want, but youve played this game like a week, those of us that have been around for awhile and met a hundred people saying the same horseshit you are. We know its all just that, horseshit.

You are not new, you are not unique, you are just another dude trying to justify his 29 to himself, you can coat it all you want. Hundreds of you have passed through these forums and when the winds shift away from 24s/29s they are gone, and so will you.

Because you are just a fart in the winds of the 20s bracket.

Now please, shut the fuck up.
 
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