Do you support the recent queue separation for the 20-29 bracket?
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Jrmilk
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Haha it's what ruined 20s games for any one single Qing. And it will be what kills the current bracket change. Not the 29s showing up but the retards that just make one class. But the ones crying don't know that because all they did was farm gear and every once in a blue moon decide to pop in for a game to see the non stop flow of hunters every game. You should just keep posting the entire day to see how retarded it gets at times supa.
Phonebook
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it only made the situation worse imo.
at first it was kinda interesting and fun to have new abilities and gear available, but once bgs slowly started rolling you quickly noticed a pattern of how utterly stupid some of the caster specs are, it's far worse and more unfun to play against 29s than the previous hunter plague at 20s.
before the differences between the average geared 20 to a leveler in full looms wasn't so bad in terms of hp pools, they could still have impact on the bg and more in their later levels with the class abilities gained over 20s.
but now the differences to the 'new' average geared 20 - who most of the time is in either full quest gear or bg greens vs. 29s . Is just much bigger than before and it quickly becomes a game of who has the most 29s on your team cause of how big the dmg & hp pools difference is.
I haven't really played my 29 for some days now so I cannot say if things have changed/improved, but previously the que times were also much better with the levelers helping to get battlegrounds popping. at least from the bgs I've played pops has seemed to start later and die earlier as well, at least on the week days.
not to mention rip epic bgs, It might not be for everyone but the wintergrasp & ashran battles were usually pretty fun on EU due to the amount of familiure 20s you saw on both factions.
the biggest issue i have is really the amount of damage some classes/specs are able to do, from a healer pov you cannot even pre-heal some of the dmg that they're able to do. in certain bgs where the first mid clash usually sets the tone of the bg, if one or two of your players just gets flopped instantly its just kinda a 'gg gameover' feeling your left with.
maybe I'm just being mr. negativity over here, but i'd honestly rather pvp in aspirant's gear at 60 or do occasionally pve stuff on my 20s than queing 20-29 bgs currently.
best of luck and hats off to those who still find enjoyment pvping in the brackets current state.
at first it was kinda interesting and fun to have new abilities and gear available, but once bgs slowly started rolling you quickly noticed a pattern of how utterly stupid some of the caster specs are, it's far worse and more unfun to play against 29s than the previous hunter plague at 20s.
before the differences between the average geared 20 to a leveler in full looms wasn't so bad in terms of hp pools, they could still have impact on the bg and more in their later levels with the class abilities gained over 20s.
but now the differences to the 'new' average geared 20 - who most of the time is in either full quest gear or bg greens vs. 29s . Is just much bigger than before and it quickly becomes a game of who has the most 29s on your team cause of how big the dmg & hp pools difference is.
I haven't really played my 29 for some days now so I cannot say if things have changed/improved, but previously the que times were also much better with the levelers helping to get battlegrounds popping. at least from the bgs I've played pops has seemed to start later and die earlier as well, at least on the week days.
not to mention rip epic bgs, It might not be for everyone but the wintergrasp & ashran battles were usually pretty fun on EU due to the amount of familiure 20s you saw on both factions.
the biggest issue i have is really the amount of damage some classes/specs are able to do, from a healer pov you cannot even pre-heal some of the dmg that they're able to do. in certain bgs where the first mid clash usually sets the tone of the bg, if one or two of your players just gets flopped instantly its just kinda a 'gg gameover' feeling your left with.
maybe I'm just being mr. negativity over here, but i'd honestly rather pvp in aspirant's gear at 60 or do occasionally pve stuff on my 20s than queing 20-29 bgs currently.
best of luck and hats off to those who still find enjoyment pvping in the brackets current state.
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Alk760
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The bracket never would have existed if not for all the Starter Edition players. The only reason to play 29 now is to take advantage of a restricted F2P player; Just because you can doesn't mean you should. If you remove / discourage 20's from their bracket, the 29's go back to 30min-to-never queue times, same as if the change never happened. 29's have nothing without the massive F2P player base.
Warglave
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incorrrect...
29 HAD nothing and now they HAVE the "massive" (lmao, OK) F2P player base... why the hell should they care?
What is different for them if they dont play? Nothing... amazing how self centered this entire playerbase is. Both sides.
Alk760
Veteran
This guy's mad because he knows i'm right.
You guys are level 29 because you're subbed. You're literally paying to play. You do not belong in a bg with players who are lvl 20 because they are literal FREE to plays.
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Dysphoria
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It might not be everyone's cup of tea, but if we kill it, what's left for low-level twinks that want to queue for pvp?
A glimmer of hope that Bliz changes course on a recent decision that was (most likely) intentionally made?
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Warglave
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No, Im not mad at all. I'm indifferent.
There's literally NO REASON for 25, 27, and 29 to not play... this is the only chance they've had in a long time.
Anyone telling them they shouldnt play is a selfish little crybaby that will never care about anyone but themselves.
Not shocking in any twink bracket, but amazing nonetheless how consistently self-centered this playerbase is and always will be. Incredible. Now.... people creating new 29 to take advantage is a different matter, but no different than expecting people to not participate in something they PAY FOR and are now allowed to again.
SMFH these kids... never change, never get better only worse.
The same that's left for high-level twinks that want to... why any one bracket should have priority is narcissistic. Nothing is "yours"...
It's all owned and operated by Blizz however they see fit. The amazing part is that the people crying loudest this time DONT EVEN PAY FOR IT.
Alk760
Veteran
As long as the level cap for F2P is 20 than it's their bracket. don't act entitled because you choose to pay for this.
You get a choice to what bracket you join and your choosing to intrude on the only restricted bracket. gtfo and go kick some puppies while your at it since that seems to be your thing.
You get a choice to what bracket you join and your choosing to intrude on the only restricted bracket. gtfo and go kick some puppies while your at it since that seems to be your thing.
Jointser
Member
No, Im not mad at all. I'm indifferent.
There's literally NO REASON for 25, 27, and 29 to not play... this is the only chance they've had in a long time.
Anyone telling them they shouldnt play is a selfish little crybaby that will never care about anyone but themselves.
Not shocking in any twink bracket, but amazing nonetheless how consistently self-centered this playerbase is and always will be. Incredible. Now.... people creating new 29 to take advantage is a different matter, but no different than expecting people to not participate in something they PAY FOR and are now allowed to again.
SMFH these kids... never change, never get better only worse.
The same that's left for high-level twinks that want to... why any one bracket should have priority is narcissistic. Nothing is "yours"...
It's all owned and operated by Blizz however they see fit. The amazing part is that the people crying loudest this time DONT EVEN PAY FOR IT.
exactly there is no reason to NOT play a 29s when you are already subbed... they are so damn mad because the 20s BIS geared aren't the strongest anymore or just jealous because they don't want to pay and doesn't have acces to 29s. blizzard don't care about f2p they don't even make money for bli$$ so i don't think they will change anything.
they are so mad against 29s like: "please don't make 29s i want to be the strongest in this bracket
"actually i respected the 20s bracket by NOT making 29s mage or huntard but now i'm actually thinking about it to give them a reason to cry
Warglave
Veteran
No.
You're a whiny shit and you're wrong.... there's no nice way to put it. No.
60 went through the same thing. 70 went through the same thing. They PAID through the same damn thing.
People keep saying "they shouid have worked hard as f2play/vets to keep their bracket alive..."
1. 69/79 queued those too. Welcome to twinking.
2. They PAID while trying to keep those brackets alive. Welcome to adulthood.
3. They lost every facet of leveler PvP fodder and became the fodder. Welcome to the club.
YOU'RE STILL NOT PAYING FOR IT... so please.... sit down and grow up. So disgusting.
Jointser
Member
they care about money... actually they care ONLY about money. which means f2p are completely worthless for bli$$
Kracks
Professional Button Pusher
Half geared f2p hunters don’t rlly mean much when horde is stacked with 29s lol grow a brain pls
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XPOff-topic Bro
not enuff fertilizer in all the world
Supäcow
Member
Do your research bigmouth. I rolled my level 20 druid tonight and won every match verse your "scary" level 29s on Alliance. QQ more you bady......
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