Do you support the recent queue separation for the 20-29 bracket?
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ikillu
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What kind of a survey is this?
Everyone who has a 29 twink or is going to make one likes the change...
Everyone who is a level 20 f2p pvp’er doesn’t like it...
The real survey should be “is f2p pvp now ruined with the inclusion of 29 twinks to the bracket” and the answer is obviously yes.
Greedy blizzard is back at it, incentivizing f2p players to buy a sub because your level 20 is now obsolete.
It’s always about money.
Everyone who has a 29 twink or is going to make one likes the change...
Everyone who is a level 20 f2p pvp’er doesn’t like it...
The real survey should be “is f2p pvp now ruined with the inclusion of 29 twinks to the bracket” and the answer is obviously yes.
Greedy blizzard is back at it, incentivizing f2p players to buy a sub because your level 20 is now obsolete.
It’s always about money.
Bambucea
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It's all owned and operated by Blizz however they see fit. The amazing part is that the people crying loudest this time DONT EVEN PAY FOR IT.
Damn y'all broke or whats with the frustration of paying?? Tf is up with "No pay no speak" mentality you monkeys? The game offers you the option to play FOR FREE. And people that choose to do so can have their voice as loud as they want to for the content that's offered for free. They are not asking for more, they are asking to change things as they were for quite some time now damn.
Conzil
F2P Legend
Vets had the advantage over F2Ps for years. You are just angry someone has the advantage over you now.
This is a terrible change and the bracket will have 30+ min queues in a few months. But don’t act like you are any better than the level 29s. You all enjoyed one shotting F2Ps for years.
This is a terrible change and the bracket will have 30+ min queues in a few months. But don’t act like you are any better than the level 29s. You all enjoyed one shotting F2Ps for years.
Warglave
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As did those that went though the same in the past... difference being those others PAID a subscription and lost the game they PAID for. That's completely different from someone using a free trial and having that trial change to benefit paid players.
Paid gameplay change ---> reasonable discontent.
Free gameplay change ---> unfortunate annoyance.
Why anyone should feel they have more "rights" as a nonpaying customer than those that subbed for years is bizarre. It's happened before, somehow will likely again... but for some reason the only people it isnt fair to is the current complainers.
ONE MORE TIME: the ONLY thing "lost" here is access to levelers... the one thing that shouldnt have been in the first place given that paying players "lost" them years ago. And there's no knowing yet if it's even permanent or intended.
troublesomesleeper
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Without levelers on the team for faster queues the amount of degenerate chimps who enjoy this imbalanced, clown fiesta will start to trickle down.
Random bgs were ok with levelers, it prevented the full on premade derp mode we are now stuck with. Complete with class stacking, mismatched healers and longer queue times. A wargame match with no rules on the comps or gear restrictions - that is what we have to look forward to.
As for whether or not this change is permanent or intended - thats another reason to be in a wtf mode. No feedback from actiblizz at all.
Warglave
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But the entire f2play experience is the same.... except no levelers in PvP.
That's it. All these entitled crybabies whining over "blizz ruined MY bracket WAAAAAHHH!!" are just pathetic, is all.
Does it suck? Sure.
Is it unfair? Nope. Might even say..... inevitable. Like i said before:
(edit- plus it's still free!!
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That's it. All these entitled crybabies whining over "blizz ruined MY bracket WAAAAAHHH!!" are just pathetic, is all.
Does it suck? Sure.
Is it unfair? Nope. Might even say..... inevitable. Like i said before:
(edit- plus it's still free!!
)Helianthus
Member
You were one of the first to switch up to 29s on EU man you and half of your guild switched to 29s the moment they became a thing - trust me EU is getting just as bad for f2p/vets as NA is games may pop semi often but your playing the exact same teams/games over and over and over again and the amount of 29s are growing every day. I respect it but don’t act like EU is any better because it’s not really and you know it
Warglave
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The long and the short of it is this: locked XP maxed out characters of any level do not belong with casual levelers simply passing through in PvP. It's been adjusted long ago to this and it's true... unless it's exploiting everyone leveling levels.
If this last loophole has been "fixed" then so be it. Adapt and play wargames, or move on to other free content.
If the only thing you're 20 for is PvP against levelers then you are the same as any 29... except playing for free.
If this last loophole has been "fixed" then so be it. Adapt and play wargames, or move on to other free content.
If the only thing you're 20 for is PvP against levelers then you are the same as any 29... except playing for free.
troublesomesleeper
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For vets sure, they can still compete. The pure f2p though, they are shutdown entirely. How delusional does someone have to be to not see how f2p have been crushed by this change?
The long and the short of it is this: locked XP maxed out characters of any level do not belong with casual levelers simply passing through in PvP. It's been adjusted long ago to this and it's true... unless it's exploiting everyone leveling levels.
If this last loophole has been "fixed" then so be it. Adapt and play wargames, or move on to other free content.
If the only thing you're 20 for is PvP against levelers then you are the same as any 29... except playing for free.
You guys keep saying adapt, as though the number of people playing 20s is the same as it was before the change. The cross faction channels are ghost towns as opposed to what they were prior to the change. Do you think its a coincidence that when a battleground queue pops its vs the same people and the same comp you just ran into last match?
Jointser
Member
don't be delusional just watch how blizz is acting the last couples of years you are right f2p have no right to speech because you don't pay. but this isn't my fault it's bobbys fault!
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as a EU alliance player i can confirm the horde isn't that bad here but i don't know how it looks like from the opposite faction.
troublesomesleeper
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For all you "yay I can play my old twink now" or the make a 29 twink crowd - do you really think the queues are not going to dry up and wither down to nothing?
troublesomesleeper
Veteran
Not your problem - yet here you are wondering why 20s are upset at the demise of their home bracket. 27s and 29s are tourists, only play when its fun, then crawl off to your hole when queues start to die -while 20s are stuck picking up the pieces of the shitstorm tornado you bring with you, because they have very few other outlets as a non subscriber.
If going to sub for this imbalanced mess of a game
, why not just play 60?Warglave
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Who cares?
Sub up or move on. That's life.
Who cares?
Why should anyone paying a sub give a single solitary shit about someone not? The queues will dry up? How many games did 25/27/29 get before? You know what's less than a few? Nothing. If that happens again, at least they got to play some.
Once again -----> ONLY capable of caring about YOURSELF, and if others do the same it's WAAAAHHHHH!!!!
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Jointser
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Not your problem - yet here you are wondering why 20s are upset at the demise of their home bracket. 27s and 29s are tourists, only play when its fun, then crawl off to your hole when queues start to die -while 20s are stuck picking up the pieces of the shitstorm tornado you bring with you, because they have very few other outlets as a non subscriber.
If going to sub for this imbalanced mess of a game
well of course i'm making 29s this is the only way i can play pvp without leveling out! or xp debuffing of course but this is even worse... i'm not playing 60s right now because shadowlands is garbage but i'm still subbed for tbc. and yes i'm wondering because paying players are welcome as long they are just levelers but as soon they are making 29s they are shit
anyways i don't care anymore for f2ps because you are all toxic crybabies
Warglave
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Pretty much this except you forgot entitled. It's getting pretty pathetic, even more than ever before...
Bambucea
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20-29s shadowlands rn is garbage as well so why do you play that ?
Maybe because being at the better end of the sword is fun, i guess?
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