Damn Alliance runs so many hunters ...

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Yeah, sure, sorry, ... horde are not zealots who want to win at all costs ...
And ally aren't idiots who keep Qing with crap gear and getting farmed over and over for hours at a time ...
Hey I don't blame em... just like in life now, its win at all costs...
Easiest way is to stack hunts with healbots in premades...
Game is dying, bracket too, it's the same few people on each side for the most part...some who swap back and forth ally/horde.
I just usually leave matches and get on another toon, or go run PvE for a bit, professions, etc.

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You're either illiterate or a troll acting dumb on purpose. Maybe both? Either way, no one is defending Horde Hunter premades. What we are saying and my previous post reinforced, is that this issue isn't pertinent to a single faction only. Alliance also queues Hunter premades on a daily basis. This isn't a faction issue. Both of them do it. The fact that one may do it more often than the other doesn't mean jackshit. No faction has some kind of moral high ground. Both of them do it and both are equally bad for the bracket. This is why I don't play my Hunter anymore and mainly stick to my Fury Warrior and my future Enhancement. Stop this cringe shit of accusing one faction of being the bad guy when both of them do exactly the same crap. Grow up.

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Damn, you hordies get so defensive, when called out on obvious BS ... K E K ?

Also I play Alliance you dumb fuck.
 
Gandara said:
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Yeah, sure, sorry, ... horde are not zealots who want to win at all costs ...
And ally aren't idiots who keep Qing with crap gear and getting farmed over and over for hours at a time ...
Hey I don't blame em... just like in life now, its win at all costs...
Easiest way is to stack hunts with healbots in premades...
Game is dying, bracket too, it's the same few people on each side for the most part...some who swap back and forth ally/horde.
I just usually leave matches and get on another toon, or go run PvE for a bit, professions, etc.

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You're either illiterate or a troll acting dumb on purpose. Maybe both? Either way, no one is defending Horde Hunter premades. What we are saying and my previous post reinforced, is that this issue isn't pertinent to a single faction only. Alliance also queues Hunter premades on a daily basis. This isn't a faction issue. Both of them do it. The fact that one may do it more often than the other doesn't mean jackshit. No faction has some kind of moral high ground. Both of them do it and both are equally bad for the bracket. This is why I don't play my Hunter anymore and mainly stick to my Fury Warrior and my future Enhancement. Stop this cringe shit of accusing one faction of being the bad guy when both of them do exactly the same crap. Grow up.

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Damn, you hordies get so defensive, when called out on obvious BS ... K E K ?

Also I play Alliance you dumb fuck.[/QU
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Gandara said:
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Yeah, sure, sorry, ... horde are not zealots who want to win at all costs ...
And ally aren't idiots who keep Qing with crap gear and getting farmed over and over for hours at a time ...
Hey I don't blame em... just like in life now, its win at all costs...
Easiest way is to stack hunts with healbots in premades...
Game is dying, bracket too, it's the same few people on each side for the most part...some who swap back and forth ally/horde.
I just usually leave matches and get on another toon, or go run PvE for a bit, professions, etc.

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You're either illiterate or a troll acting dumb on purpose. Maybe both? Either way, no one is defending Horde Hunter premades. What we are saying and my previous post reinforced, is that this issue isn't pertinent to a single faction only. Alliance also queues Hunter premades on a daily basis. This isn't a faction issue. Both of them do it. The fact that one may do it more often than the other doesn't mean jackshit. No faction has some kind of moral high ground. Both of them do it and both are equally bad for the bracket. This is why I don't play my Hunter anymore and mainly stick to my Fury Warrior and my future Enhancement. Stop this cringe shit of accusing one faction of being the bad guy when both of them do exactly the same crap. Grow up.

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Damn, you hordies get so defensive, when called out on obvious BS ... K E K ?

Also I play Alliance you dumb fuck.
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Sure you do, most people play both sides ... but you main horde, right?
Awe, you're so sweet, my new alliance friend, here just for you
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We won this one though, so don't cry ... K E K
Yeah, both sides do run premades, but horde run more hunters overall.
Then I see the posts complaining about all the Ally teams stacked with hunters.
So, I wanted to give my view, with proof attached, and if u don't like it, fuck off
 
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Sure you do, most people play both sides ... but you main horde, right?
Awe, you're so sweet, my new alliance friend, here just for you
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We won this one though, so don't cry ... K E K
Yeah, both sides do run premades, but horde run more hunters overall.
Then I see the posts complaining about all the Ally teams stacked with hunters.
So, I wanted to give my view, with proof attached, and if u don't like it, fuck off
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whatever dude you're a lost case

And no, I don't play horde at all. Don't go imagining things just to validate your own delusions.
 
Celydar said:
We won this one though, so don't cry ... K E K
Yeah, both sides do run premades, but horde run more hunters overall.
Then I see the posts complaining about all the Ally teams stacked with hunters.
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but horde run more hunters overall - I call bullshit. Alliance hunters also tend to stick together in death squads and normally have a pocket healer stapled to their ass. Coughcough - Fdac and Sallystun - coughcough
 
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I mean I would also just keep in mind pocket heals/premade is also how most of the hunter garbage is actually good. Name your top horde hunter/alliance hunter... most of their super games are just from being pocket healed either by a premade or just some fat fan boy. When you take that away its not a 100k+ game with 30 kills (unless they just get into some 100% non twink game and just have their way).

I will always 100% believe tho that most (99%) actually think it's their skill and not them doing triple damage/winning most engagements in 2 seconds/and being unkillable... they will warp their minds around its about doing X Y and Z... when its just package. There is a mental block there for most.

Would be great if Rolling into somebody did 500 damage... then generated 5 chi and then black out kick did 600 three times in a row and then Sun kick did 1.2k That would make it about the same. And the expel harm pvp buff just took you to full HP on use... that is the shit that I don't think hunters get... or "I do get it, I'm just an ass".
 
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but horde run more hunters overall - I call bullshit. Alliance hunters also tend to stick together in death squads and normally have a pocket healer stapled to their ass. Coughcough - Fdac and Sallystun - coughcough
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dfac and sally duo q survs mostly, I’ve only seen them with a healer when dfac goes hpal and even then it’s still just duo q
 
idk I feel cel, like queing solo and getting hunter teams back to back makes me not want to que bgs at all. All because the player base is full of fotm rerollers and wtf pwners omg get wrecked noob style players.

Would be an amazing bracket if hunters got some tunning but it will never happen.
 
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idk I feel cel, like queing solo and getting hunter teams back to back makes me not want to que bgs at all. All because the player base is full of fotm rerollers and wtf pwners omg get wrecked noob style players.

Would be an amazing bracket if hunters got some tunning but it will never happen.
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I mean I don't think a lot people disagree with that sentiment. Queueing into Hunter teams does certainly suck. It is not fun for anyone besides the insecure Hunter rerollers measuring their e-peens to achieve some sort of hollow validation that they're "good" at the game. I do understand that sentiment and I sympathize with it, however what I don't agree with is trying to narrow the issue down to a faction thing. It is just not. Hunter rerollers are the main offenders, regardless of faction. That being said, I can understand the OG Hunter mains who have been playing the class for a long ass time and don't want to stop playing what they love and have fun with just because of some smoothbrains who can't play the game and need to abuse something broken to "prove" their "worth". As such, those who never even thought about touching the class before and are only doing so because it is strong and would drop it in the blink of an eye in the event that it is not good anymore can go suck a fat one. The same applies to Fury Warrior rerollers that always memed on the spec and suddenly started playing it because of busted Crusader, only to abandon it and jump onto the next thing when the enchantment is eventually fixed.

tl;dr yes it is a big issue but lets not take the focus away from the real problem

Even though I quoted you, this is more of a response to the general tone of the thread than your post itself so please don't treat it as as direct response.
 
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idk I feel cel, like queing solo and getting hunter teams back to back makes me not want to que bgs at all. All because the player base is full of fotm rerollers and wtf pwners omg get wrecked noob style players.

Would be an amazing bracket if hunters got some tunning but it will never happen.
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Then just don't play? There's so many other amazing games to get lost in and explore rather than complain about the current game being shit despite still playing it. Get out before it's too late imo.
 
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Then just don't play? There's so many other amazing games to get lost in and explore rather than complain about the current game being shit despite still playing it. Get out before it's too late imo.
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I still like the pve content though so thats mostly what I do now, sometimes I que into a bg and i am reminded why I don't bother lol.
 
Most of the time when I post on the forum its because I just afk/ghosted out of a BG versus some shit tier horde premade and am just waiting for the game to end.
 
there are a lot of solo queuers who really have no business solo queuing

try to group with others, it has worked for many over the years

if you're still struggling even with a group, first look at yourself and then at your group to see what can be improved, maybe its gear, maybe its positioning, maybe its awareness, whatever it is

most hunters are bad and can easily be countered with good team work, there are many ways to counter them but it normally isn't going to happen 1v1, team work makes the dream work

even if your entire team is being gy contained there is still a small chance, a couple players could leave the bg and then a couple players join who have what it takes to help you fight your way out of gy and then you're making it farther and farther each respawn allowing you to potentially make a play that can put the win within reach, i've seen this happen many times

there are so many ways a lot of players can be better, i'm not going to make a book with all my secrets but here are some tips in no particular order:

- use the mini map (shift+m)
- use good addons such as BattleGroundEnemies, BigDebuffs, Omnibar
- don't play super zoomed in
- go to sound settings and make sure dialogue is turned on so you can hear when flags are picked up/bases assaulted/etc
- enable nameplates
- use ethernet if possible
- use BG chat to communicate with your team, don't troll, proper communication is key
- don't look at individual damage or healing done, its a team effort and damage/healing alone isn't what decides the outcome, a team can be outdamaged and outhealed and still win
- don't waste your gap closers or gap openers in moments where you can just run in mounted, or mount back up if you're dropping combat
 
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Yeah, you're right, it's definitely not a faction thing .... yet, what I see daily informs me otherwise


Yeah, if I was just not on Balance druid, and had keybinds or was running a gaming a mouse, would've changed the outcome, and there would also be less Hordie hunters
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bruh stop with the fucking cringe.. I could post screenshots all day of playing against 5+ twink hunters all from bleeding hollow for alliance.. The shit goes both ways. Just last night I qued into a double premade of 8+ hunters from alliance.. Then you have those crayon eaters coming to durotar bitching about horde hunters.. It's a lose/lose homie.
 
Also remember it's xmas break, after we get these dirty little hunter kids back into school learning their ABCs and basic arithmetic it will even out a bit.
 
I've never understood this point because hunters have always been broken, so like, because you've been playing a fotm class for like 14 years that somehow makes it better and acceptable?

Weird flex but okay
 
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Many specs have been broken over the years not just hunter's. People enjoy what is strong and reliable, its a predictable behavior and shaming them because they do constantly tells more about you than it does about them, if you haven't figured that by now... well...

Nobody on dev side gives a shit about this bracket, if you're going to be butthurt all the time maybe its time to pick a different hobby
 
Im just shocked anyone feels like theres any understanding to be wrung out of this topic after 15+ years of twinks whining about hunters.

Honestly, they really suck this xpac. Its pretty bad. But maybe that means we focus a little harder on getting organized pvp moving than just posting screenshots back and forth and accusing the same dozen or so active posters on this forum of being fotm re-rollers. Let those nerds have randoms if they wanna spend all night just harpooning into each other. Who cares?
 
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