EU Current state of EU 19s

[Mvq]

dont act like you dont lag macro in literally every game, whether devm is in it or not. not like you're "triggered", youve done it when horde didnt even have an fc. honestly i hope you trip and break your neck.

what needs to be done to fix this bracket is less stormscale trash, so lost i dont think they even know what game theyre playing tbh. its no wonder no one wants to play horde anymore, those morons cant even do as theyre told so you get into games 6+ actual monkeys that are so braindead i dont know how they manage to breathe

Hey if you have any reason to believe I lag macro, do you have any video or something where I did it?
I do lag around sometimes, not sure why it happens. But I promise I do not lag macro.
When you lag macro you stand in place for a few seconds and then you blink away.
I highly doubt I've ever done anything like that.

I've never jumped out of the map other than that 1 time yesterday in the 19 bracket. If I have then there should be someone with a screenshot of it, as people always screenshot people doing scummy shit like that.

 

[Mvq]

Speedpot? Sure... Illegal Jumps? I don't know what you consider illegal since everyone can do jumps. But lag macro??? I literally don't even have one anymore for a long time. You plainly sat in the wall where nobody can hit you, worse than anything you said about me. No hate just sayinnnn

Illegal jumps include GY jumps mejt.

You were blinking around last night, idk maybe it wasn't lag macro but you have a history of lag macroing so I have reason to believe you did it.

 

[Devm1]

Illegal jumps include GY jumps mejt.

You were blinking around last night, idk maybe it wasn't lag macro but you have a history of lag macroing so I have reason to believe you did it.

Ye thats the thing why on earth should gy jumps be illegal i mean its prolly the easiest jump in the entire map those tot jumps are worse than gy

 

[Mvq]

Ye thats the thing why on earth should gy jumps be illegal i mean its prolly the easiest jump in the entire map those tot jumps are worse than gy

You either obey the rules or don't.

 

[partygirl]

team sweden can queue horde to save them

 

[Devm1]

You either obey the rules or don't.

Sais the guy that sat in the wall, where are the rules anyway the tos doesnt say no jumps

 

[Devm1]

team sweden can queue horde to save them

Team devm can dc team sweden with its magic :3

 

[Mvq]

Sais the guy that sat in the wall, where are the rules anyway the tos doesnt say no jumps

I don't obey the rules if the majority of players in the Gulch aren't.
I'm not gonna take a Sword into a Nuclear War.

(All jumps not in this video are not permitted), All tunnel, fence, and stump jumps are allowed, excpept this stump jump: http://i.imgur.com/lXrmwqW.jpg and people are allowed to use jumps to take them anywhere on the map that they would be able to get to without jumping. Using class abilities, goblin jump, toys, or anything else to take you somewhere that you can only get to using these abilities is not allowed. All graveyard jumps are not allowed, including jumps using the new fences and wall jumping to get inside the graveyard from below it. The following video provides an example of some permitted jumps.

http://xpoff.com/threads/the-nineteens-wargaming-league-broadcasting-and-rule-book.178/#post-962444

 

[Trialdruid]

I got triggered today and jumped out of the map to ensure I didn't lose

I can't really blame you for doing this, I used to do this vs 6 to 10 man TL premades when they used to group queue with skype and farm gy 8 hours a day without any intention to cap the flag vs new players who were shit
No one is winning in these kind of games if people keep playing like this, it's just shit

 

[Balditron]

I don't know why Devm has made this QQ thread. He obviously hasn't played alot of games on EU lately if he thinks horde are still getting crushed. It's especially rich to post this last night where there was a around 4 or more games where the ally team was that bad there were so many afks that the squad was down to 4 or 5 men. Only after myself and some others formed a bg group did ally begin to win, then what happens? The triple-boomy, double-resto horde stomp-comp got annoyed and made plebs, which we responded by making a team of our own.

And @Conq it's not really your position to comment on the quality of EU games which is why people will have jumped on you. That's like me claiming that all US pugs are dog because of the 2-3 pugs I can squeeze in around 1am when it has just began to pop - I'm not there long enough to get a good overall impression.

 

[Conq]

I don't know why Devm has made this QQ thread. He obviously hasn't played alot of games on EU lately if he thinks horde are still getting crushed. It's especially rich to post this last night where there was a around 4 or more games where the ally team was that bad there were so many afks that the squad was down to 4 or 5 men. Only after myself and some others formed a bg group did ally begin to win, then what happens? The triple-boomy, double-resto horde stomp-comp got annoyed and made plebs, which we responded by making a team of our own.

And @Conq it's not really your position to comment on the quality of EU games which is why people will have jumped on you. That's like me claiming that all US pugs are dog because of the 2-3 pugs I can squeeze in around 1am when it has just began to pop - I'm not there long enough to get a good overall impression.

You don't need to be in a place to have information about it.

In reality it was a few people who disagree with everything I say, regardless of what it is.

 

[Balditron]

You don't need to be in a place to have information about it, but sure.

In reality it was a few people who disagree with everything I say, regardless of what it is.

True, but if the information is from sources like this thread then (obviously no fault on your end cause this is what is being publicised on the forums) you gotta take it at face value. I'm a believer that u need to actually experience these things first hand to say how it is, so when threads like this appear on a night which was around 80% horde dominated I'll admit, it does wind me up a bit.

Also, I understand that there's a bunch of ppl who will just disagree with you regardless what u say, but I'm not one of em

 

[Conq]

True, but if the information is from sources like this thread then (obviously no fault on your end cause this is what is being publicised on the forums) you gotta take it at face value. I'm a believer that u need to actually experience these things first hand to say how it is, so when threads like this appear on a night which was around 80% horde dominated I'll admit, it does wind me up a bit.

Also, I understand that there's a bunch of ppl who will just disagree with you regardless what u say, but I'm not one of em

This is very true.

Not trying to discourage or hate on EU at all, I would make a 19 over there if It were financially responsible for me at the moment.

There's a million versions of every truth and none of them are ever 100% accurate.

All in all now is a wonderful time to be a 19 on EU servers.

 

[Jva]

God damn, every twink who is somewhat relevant or just even slightly known in this bracket has chars on both sides. Its just ppl dont want to log over every second bg just to miss pops. Horde has been stomping yesterday and just as baldi said, stopped queuing after ally got some more competent players. The one real cancer are rogues... Still... Almost every bg you will have 2-3 bad ones on either side, mostly ally. They are resistent to advice and will leave the bracket after 2 weeks anyways. But the next week there will be 3 new ones. We just need to start to constantly kick them out of the bg. Pugs getting better at night tho

 

[Mvq]

Times like this is why people need toons on both factions. That way, if one faction is indicating an imbalance of players one day, you can just hop on over to that faction and help them out. Many good players do this. In fact, I am certain all the best players do this.

Being nasty and mean to new players is only going to drive them away. Which means the player pool is going to stagnate or get smaller as old players find less and less time to play WoW. And that is exactly what is happening right now. All these years of some Tw)nks being nasty and mean to newcomers have created an illusion that new people are not welcome. Think about it, who in their right mind would want to be constantly ridiculed by strangers. They come try it out. Get ridiculed. And leave. Can you blame them?
Some new players need to be befriended, helped along, even coached. They need to be encouraged to ask questions. Not be embarrassed to ask them. Look at the services that GG19 offers. People offer individuals "stuff" quite often as well.

TDLR: make 2 toons. Stop being mean & nasty. Be more giving!

This "theory" that new players will leave if we are mean to them is a bunch of bullshit.

Who in their right mind levels a character to 19, XP locks, queues for a BG, gets 3+ messages of "holy fuking jesus youre bad", leaves the BG and never touches 19 again.

Who buys a game, plays it, gets told he's bad and then uninstalls.

It's the same fuc|ing thing.

When someone does something for the first time of course they'll be bad. And the person doing something for the first time knows it.
When someone has sex for the first time are they surprised their partner didn't orgasm? Ofc not, because every human being are aware they'll be bad the first time they do something. It's common logic. (granted the partner is a female)

It's rare that someone is so soft that a mean message will have such a huge impact that they'll rather do something else.

 

[Bestworld]

This "theory" that new players will leave if we are mean to them is a bunch of bullshit.

Who in their right mind levels a character to 19, XP locks, queues for a BG, gets 3+ messages of "holy fuking jesus youre bad", leaves the BG and never touches 19 again.

Who buys a game, plays it, gets told he's bad and then uninstalls.

It's the same fuc|ing thing.

When someone does something for the first time of course they'll be bad. And the person doing something for the first time knows it.
When someone has sex for the first time are they surprised their partner didn't orgasm? Ofc not, because every human being are aware they'll be bad the first time they do something. It's common logic. (granted the partner is a female)

It's rare that someone is so soft that a mean message will have such a huge impact that they'll rather do something else.

Your statement solely relies on the content being about twinks only though. They don't have to uninstall etc. to leave the bracket lol. They can just log their other chars and do other stuff. Your analogy doesn't really work. But I get what you're saying.

 

[Mvq]

Your statement solely relies on the content being about tinks only though. They don't have to uninstall etc. to leave the bracket lol. They can just log their other chars and do other stuff. Your analogy doesn't really work. But I get what you're saying.

That wasn't the point.
Point is that a person who isn't geared knows he isn't geared, a person who is new knows he is bad.
Therefor the person isn't gonna be suprised to hear any of that.

As a result, he's not gonna quit for the sole reason of being called bad.

 

[Mvq]

It takes ~15-20 min to get to level 10. Another 20 or so to get to level 15. A player can have a very viable level 19 in one evening play time. If you are not enjoying something, why continue to do it? I know I play games for fun, not to be tortured.
The issue at hand is that, here in NA, we have plenty of people willing to lend a helping hand, to encourage people, to help them, to coach them. We do not openly berate them and run them off. That is why the 10-19 bracket is growing and flourishing here. We welcome newcomers. We don't push them away. It could be just our nature I suppose.

You don't know if the reason why we're growing on US is due to being friendly. You have no way of knowing this. You're taking a wild guess.

 

[Devm1]

@Balditron I don't know if you're trolling, or if you're just plain stupid. If you paid any attention to the games the past 2 months.. you'll know alliance has been dominating 90% of the games. Are you literally so fukcing retarded to think I made this thread over 1 day? So I decided to make a plebmade to play with a few friends because pugs were total trash, geuss what Balditron tryhards it by bringing his swedish ABBA b1tch crew when im trying to enjoy some games with new players in the bracket. ''OI IM BLADITRON, THIS IS FUN IM A 1550 HERO'' I didn't mind getting farmed though, it was fun with buns in the call.. and helping @Blackout out with his spectator thingy was fine aswell.
I made this thread to generally sum shit up and inform people what must be done to improve the bracket, (SINCE IN THE PAST 2 MONTHS I PLAYED THE BRACKET I HAVENT SEEN THE SLIGHTEST FKING CHANGE)
If you want me to tryhard games from now on, fine by me but you're not gonna like it.. this is what I'm trying to prevent.
And I'm actually 100% agreeing with @Mvq on the fact that people think ''newbs'' will leave the bracket if people criticise on their gameplay or some shit to help them out. You can't achieve anything by licking their balls asking for them to gear, they will laugh in your face. If a bracket like 19s EU revived, you want to keep it alive by making changes and adapting to situations. Or 19s will DIE FOR THE 92TH TIME.

I don't understand why this is so hard for people to understand, @Conq doesn't need to see the bracket with his own eyes I mean it's pretty clear whats going on lmao
I didnt fight in WW2, but I know what happened and how it was right?..

 

[Lanky]

[SIZE=4] 92TH TIME.[/SIZE]

this made me sad:(