Confirmed 5.3 info for F2Ps
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Deadvulcano
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New Build 16921: This is not a release build, earliest likely release 14-May
20's still have 40% resilience
20's still have 45% battle fatigue
20's still have 40% resilience
20's still have 45% battle fatigue
Windbreaker
Legend
My current resilience on full pvp boa'd priest - 53.7%, on the PTR - 44.57%
Shammy with pvp caster mace and other pvp boas - 51.87%, on the PTR - 43.87%
No heirloom shields or off hands at DMF on ptr. Ran Ragefire chasm to see if it got changed, it didn't.
Shammy with pvp caster mace and other pvp boas - 51.87%, on the PTR - 43.87%
No heirloom shields or off hands at DMF on ptr. Ran Ragefire chasm to see if it got changed, it didn't.
Dramatized
Legend
So BoA-shields won't be added in 5.3? I interpreted it as Blizzard almost "promised" they'd be added in 5.3, they were even supposed to have come by 5.2...
Whatgoesup
Lost in Gnomer
GC said they there are infact comming in 5.3 on twitter a day or two ago.
https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status/329307196015927297
Dramatized
Legend
He meant that they just aren't at the DMF vendor or what?
Franciska
Legend
People tend to say alot of junk on Twitter. Atleast the new Fatigue pins Healers to Healing atleast.
Windbreaker
Legend
sorry for the confusion. They are available for JP, 2175 if my memory serves me. I've been saving back DMF tickets to buy them and they don't look like they are available from DMF yet.
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OP
Deadvulcano
Legend
New Build 16924: This is not a release build, earliest likely release 21-May
20's still have 40% resilience
20's still have 45% battle fatigue
--Some damage buffs were reverted, you should check your class on ptr for more info
20's still have 40% resilience
20's still have 45% battle fatigue
--Some damage buffs were reverted, you should check your class on ptr for more info
nojz
Legend
What is in PTR: Resilience nerfed, but still present on BoA's : live 1 res ~ 0.638%, PTR 1 res = 0.202%
What Blizzard says:
Question - (Airflow, Dun Modr):
What is the objective of allowing resilience gems and resilience enchants in a pvp set? We have experienced that right now everything that adds resilience to your gear is useless. Are you going to improve resilience gems and enchantments to make them more appealing to use or are you going to remove it over time?
Answer - (Systems Design Team):
As we said above in regard to heirlooms, we wanted to evaluate the Resilience changes in 5.4 before propagating them through every system in the game. It could be that we redesign Resilience gems and enchants in patch 5.4. Keep in mind that the relative survivability you get from those gems and enchants has not changed, even though the numbers are smaller. If you enjoyed 10% less damage before, you still will now.
Why got resilience nerfed then?
And this can be useful too, I don't know if someone already posted it.
Question - (Voidmoon, Stormreaver):
In patch 5.3, all resilience is being removed from gear. Does this include the PvP heirlooms? If it does, will we be replacing the stats with something else that is useful?
Answer - (Systems Design Team):
We did not remove Resilience from heirlooms for patch 5.3. If we feel like the other Resilience changes in 5.3 are successful, then we might go back and look at the lower-level PvP gear, including heirlooms. One option is to replace the Resilience with PvP Power. Also keep in mind that the 65% Resilience is at level 90; it will be smaller at lower character levels, where the presence of Resilience on gear can still provide some benefits.
Later (5.4+) we may have PvP power on BoA-s.
What Blizzard says:
Question - (Airflow, Dun Modr):
What is the objective of allowing resilience gems and resilience enchants in a pvp set? We have experienced that right now everything that adds resilience to your gear is useless. Are you going to improve resilience gems and enchantments to make them more appealing to use or are you going to remove it over time?
Answer - (Systems Design Team):
As we said above in regard to heirlooms, we wanted to evaluate the Resilience changes in 5.4 before propagating them through every system in the game. It could be that we redesign Resilience gems and enchants in patch 5.4. Keep in mind that the relative survivability you get from those gems and enchants has not changed, even though the numbers are smaller. If you enjoyed 10% less damage before, you still will now.
Why got resilience nerfed then?
And this can be useful too, I don't know if someone already posted it.
Question - (Voidmoon, Stormreaver):
In patch 5.3, all resilience is being removed from gear. Does this include the PvP heirlooms? If it does, will we be replacing the stats with something else that is useful?
Answer - (Systems Design Team):
We did not remove Resilience from heirlooms for patch 5.3. If we feel like the other Resilience changes in 5.3 are successful, then we might go back and look at the lower-level PvP gear, including heirlooms. One option is to replace the Resilience with PvP Power. Also keep in mind that the 65% Resilience is at level 90; it will be smaller at lower character levels, where the presence of Resilience on gear can still provide some benefits.
Later (5.4+) we may have PvP power on BoA-s.
Franciska
Legend
Green lights for BoA shields.
Frostbolt damage and healing reduced for Water Elemental by 13%
Hunter pets got some some overhauls:
-Bat Sonic Blast is now on 2min CD up from 60 seconds.
-Rabid CD has been reduced to 1.5mi down from 2min.
Old news: Revealing Strike's debuff now lasts for 24 sec up from 18 sec.
Source: MMO-Champion - World of Warcraft News and Raiding Strategies and several tweets and blue posts, etc.
Frostbolt damage and healing reduced for Water Elemental by 13%
Hunter pets got some some overhauls:
-Bat Sonic Blast is now on 2min CD up from 60 seconds.
-Rabid CD has been reduced to 1.5mi down from 2min.
Old news: Revealing Strike's debuff now lasts for 24 sec up from 18 sec.
Source: MMO-Champion - World of Warcraft News and Raiding Strategies and several tweets and blue posts, etc.
Fujin0
Legend
Sigh
Footman
Legend
Mages as they are now won't be getting nerfed... they were buffed 15% on PTR, then nerfed 13%, putting them at exactly the same as they started.
R Prime
OG
I am confused. Am I missing something? I show a ~68% nerf (if PTR is accurate).
Bisonpower
Legend
Overall PVP is fairly balanced in comparison to CATA and MOP 5.0
Right now objective grouped DPS can blow up healers. With further heals nerf the average F2P pug will be better off with the superior alliance dps gear (in theory).
Will be interesting to see the changes.
For the alliance and Kings Honour....
Right now objective grouped DPS can blow up healers. With further heals nerf the average F2P pug will be better off with the superior alliance dps gear (in theory).
Will be interesting to see the changes.
For the alliance and Kings Honour....
Lil
SV huntard
Idk how you think it's balanced in your constant premades with phron faith zara and some other 24 1 shotting anything in sight but if you say so
Bisonpower
Legend
Keywords are "Overall in Comparison..."
Perhaps I should have added as a F2P pugger the situation is more palatable now than in CATA. Premade P2P groups with enchants and using communication software in a predominantly F2P bracket will always have the advantage.
Also been pugging overall as premades are boring unless facing another. I've hardly been grouped with the above mentioned but faced them more on their alliance.
TY 4 sharing your perspective. Like Mamma Gump told Forrest... Life is Like a box of Chocolates...
