Class/spec tiers? Who's on top? Who is awful?
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paranoi
Legend
I am not so sure enhancement should be in the lowest tier, I think it could safely be placed above elemental,
I never played one (just had a few duels vs enh with my feral) and there aren't many in BG's though;
in any case it would be great to see input from someone who actually plays an enh shaman
also resto druid is not worse than guardian
I never played one (just had a few duels vs enh with my feral) and there aren't many in BG's though;
in any case it would be great to see input from someone who actually plays an enh shaman
also resto druid is not worse than guardian
Iorek
Grandfathered
Guardian should be lower, spam dmg was recently nerfed
I agree enhancement is pair or above elemental shaman, and maybe they should go in the second to last tier
Iorek
Grandfathered
arena tier, not bg, in my opinion 4 stars is right (I have two geared arms warrior)
Arms warrior is very strong but he really depends on having a strong healer (priest or shaman) in order to survive the initial focus, cause everyone can hit him in the middle of the fight, and they need a few seconds to generate rage and start raping with def stance
For example: 3 shitty non geared dps like.. hunter + rogue + monk can burst one arms warrior and he can't do anything about it if he doesnt have a strong heal teammate
BM is tankier, has better mobility and self heals, and feral just doesnt give a fuck about it cause he starts invisible, that's why I think BM and feral are above arms warrior
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Zatox
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Sorry for off topic, but your sig..I sometimes have a hard time believing there are people that stupid.
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Link_To_the_Past
Legend
CripzBlood
Legend
survs and marks are both good, maybe even great in my opnion.
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Link_To_the_Past
Legend
I agree on SV, moved it up a tier. Marksman maybe be good but SV is better.
Goesid
Twink Info Legend
It is above and beyond fury and they are tied in your current system so yes.
CripzBlood
Legend
for me surv is much better, but theres ppl with diferent opnion, thats why i said it.
Srs
Legend
Nub needs to l2latin.
Dcm
idc
Are resto shams really that good? I haven't actually seen many of them so it's hard to tell. I always thought priest was on the top of the totem pole by themselves as far as insanely good healers, and everything else was either slightly or significantly worse than them.
I agree with most of the other ratings though. However I definitely feel holy paladins should be rated 3.5 (instead of the current 3) because if the paladin playing actual dispels and denounces anything that can do some mean critical damage (ferals, brewmasters, etc etc) I feel like that puts them in a pretty good spot. I'm not sure if I'd call them a "support role" because they still have good enough heals to keep people up, meaning denouncing/dispelling isn't the only thing they're really good for.
I agree with most of the other ratings though. However I definitely feel holy paladins should be rated 3.5 (instead of the current 3) because if the paladin playing actual dispels and denounces anything that can do some mean critical damage (ferals, brewmasters, etc etc) I feel like that puts them in a pretty good spot. I'm not sure if I'd call them a "support role" because they still have good enough heals to keep people up, meaning denouncing/dispelling isn't the only thing they're really good for.
Mesikämmen
pwner
Disc got more overall healing due to bubblespam on bgs, but healing surge also heals really high right now so rsham is not far behind in pure healing (or absorption kek). Shammy is also much more tanky, has defensive and offensive dispel + ranged interrupt and better mobility.
So basically:
+strong heals
+very tanky
+very versatile toolkit
+decent mobility
-shit damage
vs
+bit stronger, more versatile heals
+good damage.
-not tanky
-very small toolkit
-bad mobility
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Spiriel
Legend
Id like to add that:
- disc has a huge advantage when it comes to range since penance and sw: pain are 40y.
- Priests have more race-options.
- With shield and penance in disc-tree and Stealth in Shadowtree, Heal in Holy + a possible Quaking Palm/Stomp (nature?) Disc can handle silences a lot better than Shamans.
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Mesikämmen
pwner
True dat, and bubble being instant is OP shit. Penance is also nice for fakecasting, 1 or 2 ticks and stop casting gets many people. Don't think quaking or stomp are affected by silences/interrupts, as they are physical abilities. Someone correct me if I'm wrong doe
Spiriel
Legend
Yes thats the good part. You still can cc an opponent even when u are silenced. Counts for both classes though^^
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Link_To_the_Past
Legend
Has anyone noticed changes? I moved fury up a tier. Also SPriest down to the bottom tier. No one plays this and it has no abilities for f2p.