Can we get a thread on 20-29 class viability?

[Flaxy]

Ladies, chill with the arguing.

Monks are op, its been known for awhile now, no reason to argue about the reasons to WHY they are op.

 

[Franchi]

Now that you've actually taken a couple minutes to explain your beliefs, let me congratulate you on being capable of semi coherent thoughts!

If you reduce the bullshit you've heaped all over the sparse facts of your post, maybe we can have a conversation...

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Willly please, if anything I DOWN PLAYED the stats.

And no it doesn't count AOE damage as one hit, or my WW in gnomer with 50 targets would be insane, it also doesn't seem to count the damage increase from stacks as I have hit a efc at 10 stacks for a 5.5k execute


No one CAN have a conversation with you. Your idea of a conversation is to throw out all the facts and keep arguing your hipster position.

 

[Zeiren]

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Willly please, if anything I DOWN PLAYED the stats.

And no it doesn't count AOE damage as one hit, or my WW in gnomer with 50 targets would be insane, it also doesn't seem to count the damage increase from stacks as I have hit a efc at 10 stacks for a 5.5k execute


No one CAN have a conversation with you. Your idea of a conversation is to throw out all the facts and keep arguing your hipster position.

weren't combat statistics bugged at one point in time? I don't quite find them trustworthy to base data off of ...

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[Franchi]

weren't combat statistics bugged at one point in time? I don't quite find them trustworthy to base data off of ...

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Yeah they can and do bug and at higher level you use those bombs and crap and it goes nutz, but those are all actually legit keg smashes.

I posted my warrior because i have hit harder than it says I have against flag de-buffed targets and its obviously single target, as WW in a pack of 50 gnomer mobs would do well over 4k.

 

[Zeiren]

Yeah they can and do bug and at higher level you use those bombs and crap and it goes nutz, but those are all actually legit keg smashes.

I would like to see screenshots of you actually hitting for 5.5k in a battleground because that's just unbelievable unless there was like 10 stacks??, otherwise in gnomer that's understandable I suppose.

edit: forgot to consider stacks

 

[Skeezin]

brewmasters eh

 

[Franchi]

I would like to see screenshots of you actually hitting for 5.5k in a battleground because that's just unbelievable unless there was like 10 stacks??, otherwise in gnomer that's understandable I suppose.

edit: forgot to consider stacks

Have to remember that its EXECUTE!!! so sure I hit people for 3.8 pretty regularly on a 40 rage execute but its not like it maters when they are at 20% hp, Keg smash hits harder than execute ever does and can be used on targets at full hp and is AOE.

 

[Kincaide]

Ladies, chill with the arguing.

Please listen to your friend Flaxy here ^^^ You guys can argue points without shit-posting people. It's hostile and it doesn't actually help your argument.

 

[Zeiren]

Have to remember that its EXECUTE!!! so sure I hit people for 3.8 pretty regularly on a 40 rage execute but its not like it maters when they are at 20% hp, Keg smash hits harder than execute ever does and can be used on targets at full hp and is AOE.

Execute is obvious, I was looking at your monks 6.4k crit I thought you said the statistics doesn't count the aoe dmg? shrug

Please listen to your friend Flaxy here ^^^ You guys can argue points without shit-posting people. It's hostile and it doesn't actually help your argument.

yo that was like last page yesterday <3

 

[Kincaide]

yo that was like last page yesterday <3

I know, sometimes reports don't get seen until the next day

 

[Franchi]

Execute is obvious, I was looking at your monks 6.4k crit I thought you said the statistics doesn't count the aoe dmg? shrug


yo that was like last page yesterday <3

thot has one on the books at 7.4k

I know, sometimes reports don't get seen until the next day

Wouldn't posting and arguing in a thread in complete ignorance of even the TOOLTIPS be shit posting by definition?

 

[Kincaide]

Wouldn't posting and arguing in a thread in complete ignorance of even the TOOLTIPS be shit posting by definition?

shit-posting vs posting shit. If someone says something that you can disprove, just disprove it, you know? I'm a pretty smart guy but I've also been dead wrong about things before (like this morning being wrong about AP's data center) and I'm happy to have someone correct my statement but I wouldn't be happy if someone had to belittle me in the process.

 

[Zeiren]

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i don't even remember ever hitting this high in a game

assuming all these numbers are real then it looks like a 5k monk bubble is nothing to worry about. an opposing monk, feral, spriest should easily be able to take that bubble down right?

 

[Donteventrii]

[MENTION=12370]willix[/MENTION] is a constant shit-poster.

 

[Franchi]

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i don't even remember ever hitting this high in a game

assuming all these numbers are real then it looks like a 5k monk bubble is nothing to worry about. an opposing monk, feral, spriest should easily be able to take that bubble down right?

Those 6-7k hits are the abnormalities the 3.8-4.8k crit range are far more normal keg smash crits for corectly geaed bm's, but its PHYSICAL damage, so it slaughters cothies but doesn't do much ot a tank class stacking armor.

shit-posting vs posting shit. If someone says something that you can disprove, just disprove it, you know? I'm a pretty smart guy but I've also been dead wrong about things before (like this morning being wrong about AP's data center) and I'm happy to have someone correct my statement but I wouldn't be happy if someone had to belittle me in the process.

Another poster and i might have remained civil, but this is LITERALLY all willy does, make idiotic posts, run to mods when they are called idiotic posts.

He did the same thing on the wow forums for MONTHS before getting banned over there, then circumventing that ban with his son's account to continue shitposting to troll more players into a ban.

This is why failed to pays shouldn't be policing the pay to play section, you dont know the players and you don't know the landscape or history.

 

[Donteventrii]

Speaking of bans, why do I see so many familiar names with bans but they continue to post on accounts with similar names. If they are going to be allowed on the site, why not just unban them?

 

[Kincaide]

If you have specific concerns, you'd be better off reporting those concerns or PM'ing a mod or an admin. I believe there's a topic to be discussed in this thread, so please turn your attention back to discussing that topic for the remainder of this thread.

 

[MYT]

The reason Guard (Monk Bubble is a problem) is because it lasts 30 seconds, can't be dispelled, and has a 30sec CD to cast again. Yes you can work through a 5k bubble...but then you have to work through 5k health, and do that whole 10k in under 30 seconds or they cast guard again. Meanwhile, you're assuming they neither have heals nor that they heal themselves (and they heal better when bubble is up).

Theorycrafting taken to extremes never matches up well with reality of being in game.

Personally I'm preparing for at least one BM to be in our premades because it's an existing class and you have to work around it within acceptable guidelines...but to argue that it's broken is an argument I'm surprised is being made. All the better BMs I know admit it. This doesn't include the 19 alliance team running 10mans with 4 BM's - they seem to think that means they're good instead.

 

[Ohai]

The reason Guard (Monk Bubble is a problem) is because it lasts 30 seconds, can't be dispelled, and has a 30sec CD to cast again. Yes you can work through a 5k bubble...but then you have to work through 5k health, and do that whole 10k in under 30 seconds or they cast guard again. Meanwhile, you're assuming they neither have heals nor that they heal themselves (and they heal better when bubble is up).

Theorycrafting taken to extremes never matches up well with reality of being in game.

Personally I'm preparing for at least one BM to be in our premades because it's an existing class and you have to work around it within acceptable guidelines...but to argue that it's broken is an argument I'm surprised is being made. All the better BMs I know admit it. This doesn't include the 19 alliance team running 10mans with 4 BM's - they seem to think that means they're good instead.

Willy's definition of broken has always been a flowchart. "Is it in the game and available?" = "Not broken". He either lives in a world where broken literally means non-working game mechanic, or one where he thinks blizzard somehow planned BM monks at 29 to look like this.

edit - mods - I love the subtle edit on my signature looks like we are missing a certain website

 

[Faerondil]

shit-posting vs posting shit. If someone says something that you can disprove, just disprove it, you know? I'm a pretty smart guy but I've also been dead wrong about things before (like this morning being wrong about AP's data center) and I'm happy to have someone correct my statement but I wouldn't be happy if someone had to belittle me in the process.

OMFG noob, get out of here.. You don't even know where the datacenters are??