Raz
yo what's good
i dont think frost mage is that high, arcane/fire seems to do more dmg overall (in my experience) i see frost mage more as a supporter, but ofc they can do dmg.
Can we get a thread on 20-29 class viability?
- Thread starter Flaxy
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i dont think frost mage is that high, arcane/fire seems to do more dmg overall (in my experience) i see frost mage more as a supporter, but ofc they can do dmg.
Shamatix
Guest
I honestly feel ppl undervalue locks way to much
Franchi
Legend
Thats just willy
pay no attention to willy
This kid couldn't tell that monks were broken during the pre patch.
Zatox
OG
Same feeling. Currently like 20-1 maybe 2 losses as disc/afflic
OP
OP
Flaxy
Legend
Then prove people wrong.
Eriwen
Legend
well 1600 shatters and ele force in my case + pet bolt adds up in about 2k in 1 global
Raz
yo what's good
and after that what do you have?
as arcane i could spam 1k blasts and pom for another one into a 500+ dmg on 4 people
fire can do so much dmg if they get procs, else they can spread the pyroblast dot which ticks for around 120 i think? overall i think fire and arcane SHOULD do more damage than frost
ofc frost is better in other ways but damage i feel like its a bit weaker than the others. maybe just me tho
willix
Legend
Care to explain how you think they're 'broken?' Or is this just your go-to response when you disagree with something I say? When we're talking about pvp involving competent, capable healers, the only thing that stands out about bm monks is their survivability and 40 yard slow that costs zero energy with no cool down. Does that make them 'broken?' Not really. Not even the occasional random 2k keg smash pushes them into 'broken.'
Feral druids do way more damage than bm monks and can consistently kill through heals. Bm monks aren't a threat unless you have terrible healers or there aren't any healers present. Otherwise they are just like any other melee dps.
Ww monks aren't broken either. While they are strong dps (all melee are atm), they are nowhere near feral in terms of damage. Their burst is limited to fists of fury. Outside that they really don't do much.
So please, explain how monks are broken Franchi. Tell us your secrets.
Franchi
Legend
Preserving that post for posterity.
Shook
Legend
Fixd
DPS
God tier: Feral, Shadow, BM
Teir1: Ret, WW, Arms, Enh, Rogue, Boomy, Hunt
Teir2: Mage, Destro,
Teir3: Ele, Afflic,
Utility/Support
God Teir: BM
Teir1: Mage, Enh, (R)Sham, Boomy, Rogue, Ele, Hunt
Teir2: (R)Druid, Lock, Ret, WW. War
Heals
1. Sham
2. Pally/Druid
3. Disc/MW
4. Holy prst.
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willix
Legend
Well I see you didn't bother backing up your post with a well reasoned, fact-supported argument. Some things never change Franchi.
[MENTION=22431]Shook[/MENTION]: last I checked the bm shield is only 1.6k absorb. Not sure why you can't just dps through it. Also not sure why you consider bm or spriest God mode.
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Shook
Legend
hmmm. Was its hotfixed? I know it scales with AP, so if you are stacking stam it might not be as high. I dont have one so i cant test it. I remember seeing above 4k a week ago.
Fcx
Grandfathered
lolno, pretty sure the term laf was created for willy
willix
Legend
Oh look, it's a Franchi clone! Are you going to contribute anything of value to the discussion? Or are you going to continue up to shit-post like Franchi?
I'm more than willing to admit I'm mistaken about this if you want to provide a well-reasoned argument detailing how I'm wrong and support it with facts. Posting the equivalent of 'you're wrong cuz I said so' helps absolutely no one.
sry bsns said:
If that's the case, then wouldn't you be giving up a lot of survivability to get big bubbles? Outside of bubble you'd fall over dead under the slightest pressure. 5k bubble isn't that hard to dps through either.
Franchi
Legend
Can you really be this DUMB?
What gives monks attack pwr?
A monk can easily have 5k hp and 5k bubbles.
With procs and buffs that buble can get near 7k on a monk who still has 5k hp and can now keg smash for 3,800 or MORE while spamming free aoe ranged slows.
Now to answer my earlier question since you probably can't figure it out, monks get attack pwr from bonus armor, and that allows them to stack damage reduction versus melee while stacking attack pwr and adding to the bubble.
